Vietnam Redux!

[ForkRobotik]

It's Vietnam all over again. Seems fishy, and reminds me of how in vietnam the usa would just go for body counts and claim that "everyone" in the villages they attacked and bombed were actually members of the vietcong.

[SolInvictus]

actually it sounds like war.

[ForkRobotik]

At 6/26/07 11:35 PM, SolInvictus wrote: actually it sounds like war.

Actually it sounds like you support murder of innocent people.

[cellardoor6]

Um... US forces engaged gun-wielding men who were entering a village, while US forces were in coordination with Iraqi forces. There is no way to even determine who they were and what they were doing now that they were blown to pieces.

Such is war. But I fund it funny, the way BBC spun it, nothing less could be expected from them.

[SolInvictus]

At 6/26/07 11:41 PM, ForkRobotik wrote:

At 6/26/07 11:35 PM, SolInvictus wrote: actually it sounds like war.

Actually it sounds like you support murder of innocent people.

you mean Vietnam and Iraq are the only wars where civilians have been killed and the side who did it attempted to cover it up?

[cellardoor6]

At 6/26/07 11:41 PM, ForkRobotik wrote:

At 6/26/07 11:35 PM, SolInvictus wrote: actually it sounds like war.

Actually it sounds like you support murder of innocent people.

How is it murder when they killed people who were armed with guns and were acting suspicious? You think that US forces would have deliberately killed innocent people, thus taking attention away from the enemy, just for shits and giggles?

You get more stupid every fucking post you make.

[SolInvictus]

but seriously, what the fuck kind of asshat are you? what does saying that the loss of civilian lives and attempted cover-ups have to do with my views on the legitimacy of the killing of civilians?

[troubles1]

At 6/26/07 06:11 AM, ForkRobotik wrote: It's Vietnam all over again. Seems fishy, and reminds me of how in vietnam the usa would just go for body counts and claim that "everyone" in the villages they attacked and bombed were actually members of the vietcong.

Why is it every post you make completely one sided, War Sucks Bad shit happens, People carrying AK-47'S sometimes get shot. but you even trying to imply that it is the Goal of the US MILITARY to simply get body counts shows how completely stupid you are. this is a war that has to be won both by defeating the enemy, and inflicting as much damage as possible as possible to them, but also by protecting the civilian population, and keeping them on our side, the military leaders, know how important the general population mindset is to helping us.

how many times were you dropped on your head as a baby? and are you even a teenager yet , It seems you make mostly posts that even a 13yr old is to mature to make.

[Bolo]

At 7/10/07 12:05 AM, troubles1 wrote: how many times were you dropped on your head as a baby? and are you even a teenager yet , It seems you make mostly posts that even a 13yr old is to mature to make.

Based solely on your abhorrent grammar, I might say the same thing about you.

[Memorize]

At 7/10/07 02:00 AM, Bolo wrote:

Based solely on your abhorrent grammar, I might say the same thing about you.

So basically, you're on the side of the topic starter where all US soldiers are out there just to kill and count bodies while shooting civilians.

Haha, I mean really. Why else would you comment about this guy's grammar?

[troubles1]

At 7/10/07 02:00 AM, Bolo wrote:

At 7/10/07 12:05 AM, troubles1 wrote: how many times were you dropped on your head as a baby? and are you even a teenager yet , It seems you make mostly posts that even a 13yr old is to mature to make.

Based solely on your abhorrent grammar, I might say the same thing about you.

Great now you are defending a troll , by attacking my Grammar, I take it then that every post you have ever written is flawless in its entirety. A perfect example of the English language in fact your posts must be poetry in the written word by your standards .You have touched me I will from now on try and live up to your gleaming perfection in penmanship, in fact in my spare time I will go through your previous posts and try and learn from your masterpieces.

Also if it is not to much to ask would you do me the honor of tutoring me I am fully aware that I am unworthy to be your apprentice but it would mean so much to one day say I was taught by the Best.

[Bolo]

At 7/10/07 02:34 AM, Memorize wrote:

At 7/10/07 02:00 AM, Bolo wrote:

Based solely on your abhorrent grammar, I might say the same thing about you.

So basically, you're on the side of the topic starter where all US soldiers are out there just to kill and count bodies while shooting civilians.

Haha, I mean really. Why else would you comment about this guy's grammar?

Well, here we have some irony. Aren't you the one who accused me mere days (day?) ago that I twist the words of other people to my will? And yet, there you go, doing exactly what you accused ME of doing. I don't agree with the topic starter, and your insinuation that I did stems from your complete partisanship, and fundamental need to polarize every issue to the greatest degree that is humanly possible. Well, congrats, because you've done it again. I mentioned nothing at all about the topic itself actually—merely the irony that a person whose grammar is (often, I must admit) unintelligible to the point of incredulity, instructs someone that they seem to be 13 years old, based on the content of their posts. Talk about the blind leading the blind.

[Memorize]

At 7/10/07 03:00 AM, Bolo wrote:

Well, here we have some irony. Aren't you the one who accused me mere days (day?) ago that I twist the words of other people to my will?

Why not?

And yet, there you go, doing exactly what you accused ME of doing.

Tell me.

If a white supremacist started making speeches to take back this country away from blacks, and someone else insults that person's intelligence while making slight grammar mistakes, would you then bash the person who insulted the white supremacist?

So that either leads to 2 conclusions. 1) You agree with the supremacist. 2) You bash him because you disagree with him on an entirely seperate issue.

Which is it?

I don't agree with the topic starter, and your insinuation that I did stems from your complete partisanship, and fundamental need to polarize every issue to the greatest degree that is humanly possible.

If you say so.

Well, congrats, because you've done it again. I mentioned nothing at all about the topic itself actually—merely the irony that a person whose grammar is (often, I must admit) unintelligible to the point of incredulity, instructs someone that they seem to be 13 years old, based on the content of their posts. Talk about the blind leading the blind.

Which brings me back to the white supremacist. The other outcome is that you would say nothing at all because of how people would view you. Of course, you would bash the person with grammar mistakes because you are on the internet where no one can get to you directly.

[Bolo]

At 7/10/07 03:09 AM, Memorize wrote:

At 7/10/07 03:00 AM, Bolo wrote:

Well, here we have some irony. Aren't you the one who accused me mere days (day?) ago that I twist the words of other people to my will?

Why not?

Ah, so you admit that you enjoy twisting words. How the tables have turned.

And yet, there you go, doing exactly what you accused ME of doing.

Tell me.

I believe I already have done that, if you'd bothered to read the following paragraph.

If a white supremacist started making speeches to take back this country away from blacks, and someone else insults that person's intelligence while making slight grammar mistakes, would you then bash the person who insulted the white supremacist?

I would hardly call the grammar mistakes slight. Near illegibility is a problem, and makes reading posts incredibly difficult. Painstakingly hard to slug your way through. I've noticed this for months, but only now do I speak out, as the problem worsens detectably. When I read his posts, I honestly think of him as a fourteen year old kid, and I have to slap myself in order to come into the realization that he could possibly have done service in the military.

So that either leads to 2 conclusions. 1) You agree with the supremacist. 2) You bash him because you disagree with him on an entirely seperate issue.

Which is it?

3) None of the above. I'm complaining about something that can easily, EASILY be fixed, if even a minute amount of effort were to be applied to the task at hand. Firefox even has a built-in spellchecker. There should not be grammar mistakes so significant that its painful to read, capische?

I don't agree with the topic starter, and your insinuation that I did stems from your complete partisanship, and fundamental need to polarize every issue to the greatest degree that is humanly possible.

If you say so.

Yeah, I do. And you're doing it once again.

Well, congrats, because you've done it again. I mentioned nothing at all about the topic itself actually—merely the irony that a person whose grammar is (often, I must admit) unintelligible to the point of incredulity, instructs someone that they seem to be 13 years old, based on the content of their posts. Talk about the blind leading the blind.

Which brings me back to the white supremacist. The other outcome is that you would say nothing at all because of how people would view you.

Ehh... What does that even mean? Of course I'm going to say something if it bothers me. I was polite enough to keep quiet for months before confronting the issue. Now that I have, you jump down my throat, and try to link it to a troll's harsh words. Also, don't draw analogies anymore. You're not very good at that.

Of course, you would bash the person with grammar mistakes because you are on the internet where no one can get to you directly.

If someone had a speech impediment, I would leave them alone about it, because it's probably genetic. When someone is an inept typer, it's not a genetic condition, just laziness. Especially when there's a myriad of tools available for public use (Hint: Firefox = included spellchecker) to that effect.

[Memorize]

At 7/10/07 03:26 AM, Bolo wrote:

Ah, so you admit that you enjoy twisting words. How the tables have turned.

It is enjoyable.

I would hardly call the grammar mistakes slight. Near illegibility is a problem, and makes reading posts incredibly difficult. Painstakingly hard to slug your way through. I've noticed this for months, but only now do I speak out, as the problem worsens detectably.

2 words: General Forum.

3) There should not be grammar mistakes so significant that its painful to read, capische?

And I bet you checked over every word before you hit the "post it" button.

Yeah, I do. And you're doing it once again.

Whatever lets you sleep better at night.

Ehh... What does that even mean? Of course I'm going to say something if it bothers me. I was polite enough to keep quiet for months before confronting the issue.

It means that if something like this happend on the streets, you wouldn't bother correcting the person who insulted the white supremacist because people would view you as defending him.

Now that I have, you jump down my throat, and try to link it to a troll's harsh words.

Um... no, I wouldn't want to shove anything down your throat...

You heard it here folks, Bolo said he totally loves penis.

[Bolo]

At 7/10/07 03:31 AM, Memorize wrote:

At 7/10/07 03:26 AM, Bolo wrote:

I would hardly call the grammar mistakes slight. Near illegibility is a problem, and makes reading posts incredibly difficult. Painstakingly hard to slug your way through. I've noticed this for months, but only now do I speak out, as the problem worsens detectably.

2 words: General Forum.

5 words: This is the Politics Forum.

You're held to a higher standard here, and you're more accountable for your actions as a user.

3) There should not be grammar mistakes so significant that its painful to read, capische?

And I bet you checked over every word before you hit the "post it" button.

That's funny. I ALWAYS do that. Every post I make. You should try it sometime.

Ehh... What does that even mean? Of course I'm going to say something if it bothers me. I was polite enough to keep quiet for months before confronting the issue.

It means that if something like this happend on the streets

How could "something like this" happen on the streets? We don't use keyboards when we're strolling downtown. At least, I don't.

, you wouldn't bother correcting the person who insulted the white supremacist because people would view you as defending him.

Bla bla bla. White supremacy =/= bad grammar.

Now that I have, you jump down my throat, and try to link it to a troll's harsh words.

Um... no, I wouldn't want to shove anything down your throat...

You heard it here folks, Bolo said he totally loves penis.

You're the one who introduced the word "shoving". I said "jumping".

[troubles1]

At 7/10/07 02:00 AM, Bolo wrote:

At 7/10/07 12:05 AM, troubles1 wrote: how many times were you dropped on your head as a baby? and are you even a teenager yet , It seems you make mostly posts that even a 13yr old is to mature to make.

Based solely on your abhorrent grammar, I might say the same thing about you.

Actually would you mind pointing out all the words I misspelled? because ACORDING TO YOU HOW SOMETHING IS SPELLED IS FAR MORE IMPORTAINT THAN WHAT THEY WERE IMPLYING IN THE FIRST PLACE. give me a number and the words I misspelled.

Also it sickens me you would defend a person who continuously make comments about our troops, he does not make comments about political views, but instead attacks guys who are doing there jobs. If you knew someone,,or had family over there or God forbid lost someone in a tragic way you would not be attacking me but the inconsiderate Troll who keeps posting Hate Towards GOOD PEOPLE.

[Memorize]

At 7/10/07 03:44 AM, Bolo wrote:

You're held to a higher standard here, and you're more accountable for your actions as a user.

Ok.

There shouldn't be a comma after the word "here".

How could "something like this" happen on the streets? We don't use keyboards when we're strolling downtown. At least, I don't.

The space bar is suppose to be tapped twice after a period.

Bla bla bla. White supremacy =/= bad grammar.

No one said it did.

You're the one who introduced the word "shoving". I said "jumping".

You also introduced the word "down" and "throat" after "jumping".

[Bolo]

At 7/10/07 03:53 AM, troubles1 wrote:

At 7/10/07 02:00 AM, Bolo wrote:

At 7/10/07 12:05 AM, troubles1 wrote: how many times were you dropped on your head as a baby? and are you even a teenager yet , It seems you make mostly posts that even a 13yr old is to mature to make.

Based solely on your abhorrent grammar, I might say the same thing about you.

Actually would you mind pointing out all the words I misspelled? because ACORDING TO YOU HOW SOMETHING IS SPELLED IS FAR MORE IMPORTAINT THAN WHAT THEY WERE IMPLYING IN THE FIRST PLACE. give me a number and the words I misspelled.

It's not the spellings, but the terrible grammar to which I take issue. If you'd like, I can point out every mistake, but that would be a bit redundant, now wouldn't it? Especially considering I just finished a long argument with Techware about how you could avoid such egregious lapses of grammatical prowess.

Also it sickens me you would defend a person who continuously make comments about our troops, he does not make comments about political views, but instead attacks guys who are doing there jobs. If you knew someone,,or had family over there or God forbid lost someone in a tragic way you would not be attacking me but the inconsiderate Troll who keeps posting Hate Towards GOOD PEOPLE.

Feeling a little thick-headed today? If you'd bothered to read the thread, perhaps you'd know that I wasn't defending him; I was criticizing you. His opinion matters little to me, as it should to you as well. He is a troll, as are many others.

[Ravariel]

At 7/10/07 04:22 AM, Memorize wrote:

At 7/10/07 03:44 AM, Bolo wrote:

You're held to a higher standard here, and you're more accountable for your actions as a user.

There shouldn't be a comma after the word "here".

Actually, you're wrong. His grammar in that sentence is perfect.

http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.html

rule #4.

How could "something like this" happen on the streets? We don't use keyboards when we're strolling downtown. At least, I don't.

The space bar is suppose to be tapped twice after a period.

It's "supposed", and not necessarily. Again, it's a common-usage thing that's not actually a rule of grammar.

[troubles1]

At 7/10/07 03:26 AM, Bolo wrote

Of course, you would bash the person with grammar mistakes because you are on the Internet where no one can get to you directly.

If someone had a speech impediment, I would leave them alone about it, because it's probably genetic. When someone is an inept typer, it's not a genetic condition, just laziness. Especially when there's a myriad of tools available for public use (Hint: FireFox = included spellchecker) to that effect.

Funny , because here you said I need spell checker. Now you say it was not my spelling, Get a life man. And seriously find something better to Bitch about, What Are you ragging? This your time of the month?

You can debate me all you want on political subjects, But guess what, this is not the GRAMMER FORUM, IT is however the politics forum. Can you comprehend what I just said to you? Or should I space it out further, Or change it somehow to let you know How pathetic it is that you confused this with the New grounds Grammar forum.
Wait maybe you can talk Tom or Wade into making one for you.

O on a final note the word You Fucked up and should have used was typist. I guess even the flawless BOLO makes mistakes. LOL.

[Memorize]

At 7/10/07 05:02 AM, Ravariel wrote:

Actually, you're wrong. His grammar in that sentence is perfect.

Actually, i'm right.

http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.html

That site looks like an 8 year old made it.

It's "supposed", and not necessarily.

What is this "not necessarily"?

Again, it's a common-usage thing that's not actually a rule of grammar.

It is in the rule of typing.

[CaptainHusky]

It takes two to tango
The insurgens want it to look like we are the bad guys here.

basicly the insurgens have the doctrine f using human shields .
the more collateral damage the better for them
.

[K-RadPie]

You know, Memorize, Bolo, and Ravariel, I could have sworn this thread was about comparing Vietnam to Iraq, but yeah, a completely pointless debate about grammar is perfectly fine too. I mean, seriously, can't you just use PM's for this kind of shit instead of clogging up threads as if they were a fat guy's arteries?

[Tri-Nitro-Toluene]

At 7/10/07 05:21 AM, Memorize wrote: It is in the rule of typing.

Let us examine Microsoft word to find the answer to this conundrum.

If you place two spaces after a full stop ( period) there is no typographical error highlighted. The same is true of a single space, therefore negating it being a rule of typing as both are acceptable.

In other words:

Who gives a fuck?

[animehater]

At 7/10/07 09:58 AM, K-RadPie wrote: You know, Memorize, Bolo, and Ravariel, I could have sworn this thread was about comparing Vietnam to Iraq, but yeah, a completely pointless debate about grammar is perfectly fine too. I mean, seriously, can't you just use PM's for this kind of shit instead of clogging up threads as if they were a fat guy's arteries?

This man speaks truth.

[Imperator]

At 7/10/07 05:21 AM, Memorize wrote:

At 7/10/07 05:02 AM, Ravariel wrote:

Actually, you're wrong. His grammar in that sentence is perfect.

Actually, i'm right.

You're both wrong....and right.....

You're held to a higher standard here, and you're more accountable for your actions as a user.

The comma can be used to separate two independent sentences, but does not necessarily have to be used.

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/commas .htm

Rule #2.

Now get back on topic.

And the next FUCK who confuses "to" with "too" or "then" for "than" is gonna be in a WORLD of shit....cause I see that crap all over these boards.....

[Ravariel]

At 7/10/07 12:46 PM, Imperator wrote:
You're both wrong....and right.....

Strunk and White disagree... don't tell me a college student is disagreeing with "The Little Book"! :P

And the next FUCK who confuses "to" with "too" or "then" for "than" is gonna be in a WORLD of shit....cause I see that crap all over these boards.....

I say we hijack this thread to discuss and correct all those stupid grammar mistakes that people make on these boards. Show them why molding your argument in a grammatically correct way is important, and finally telling people the difference between there, their, and they're.

[HighlyIllogical]

At 6/26/07 06:11 AM, ForkRobotik wrote: It's Vietnam all over again.

It's certainly not vietnam. IN vietnam, I can't remember too many times that we killed ARVN forces.

[JakeHero]

At 7/10/07 12:46 PM, Imperator wrote:

Wait wait. I thought a comma could be used to link a dependent and independent clause, since the independent one could stand on its own.

You people and your arcane vernacular and grammar are confuzzling me.