Atheists need to stop crying

[TigerDemon]

Ok look I get that some people like to deny the idea that there is a higer being out there even though the evidence that some higer power had to have a hand in the creation of this world stares them in the face daily. Sure go ahead and live life in a manner that I think is blind. However dont keep crying about how dumb those of us with faith are, about what evil religion has caused. For all the ills that religions have caused over time it is done more good. It gives hope and a meaning to life. Because of religion many peoples lives have been turned around for the better. Also do you see any atheists feeding the poor or sheltering the homeless? Nope and ya dont see people taking care of others in the name of nothing do you? Now I may be a pagan with more or less my own belief system and yea I am not a big fan of many sects of the Abrahamic religions but I respect them enough to say that thier belief might just be valid... for them that is. I dont go around trying to prove how dumb what they believe is. Unless they say some seriously dumb ass shit in a fight with me or insult my choice of religion that is. I mean hey I am human. So please atheists wake up and leave those of us that find meaning in something alone and go back to your blind hollow exsistance.

[Makaio]

Blind hollow existence?
Blind for seeing through the indoctrination of our parents and being able to take in all the science behind the world to form our own opinions?
Hollow and meaningless because we've come to realize its better to live life for life itself, to be good to better your life and the lives of others instead of being good in fear of divine punishment, the realization that life is precious and rare so we should live the life we have according to our rules and morals, not those of falsified "prophets", madmen and criminals.

In my opinion there are 4 types of people, the ignorant, the mislead, the weak minded and atheists.

[SlithVampir]

I think you need to stop crying. The reason some Atheists are so adamant about their beliefs are for two reasons 1) They are sick of seeing people like that fat shit Falwell spreading hate (AIDS is god's punishment for society's toleration of homosexuality=Falwell) 2) You people are always in their face about something or another

Personally, I'm an agnostic for one simple reason. No matter how much you bitch and moan, you can't prove god's existence. You just can't. Oh, yes, a third reason. 3) You believe in a single higher being that is resposible for creating the whole of existence, and we're crazy

[tony4moroney]

At 6/25/07 05:21 AM, TigerDemon wrote: discriminatory crap

Alternatively you could stop blaming atheists for being responsible for the 'demoralization' of the u.s. actually extend that to stop blaming us for everything.

tell your church to stop condoning, and stop participating in the anal raping of little boys.

stop unnecessarily inhibiting in the advancement of science.

stop ripping off other innocent christians with televangelists read: benny hinn/ ted hagard, inefficient charities and the like.

stop contradicting yourselves and uphold the same morals you so cherish

dont enforce those morals you speak of unto others as though theyre a law

learn to accept criticism considering you like to complain about everything

stop claiming america was founded on christianity and claiming this is what makes it great

accept that you were responsible for slaughters and being fascist in the past and recognize that your bible is one giant orgy of contradictory cow-shit rhetoric.

live your lives frugally and uphold jesus' beliefs considering hes your posterboy

dont claim creationism is a science, can you not taint knowledge and science? and if you hold spite for atheistic-bourne complaints then dont attack the very source of atheism: logic and facts and keep to believing in god through the bible as opposed to convincing kids creationism is real in the form of an alchemy-esque science.

[dodo-man-1]

Stop crying about what? Just because we don't think that there is a god up there governing our lives, doesn't mean we live "hollow, empty existences." The only people who think that are religious fanatics who can't deal with the fact that some people think differently from them. So shut up and learn to respect others' views.

[dodo-man-1]

At 6/25/07 05:21 AM, TigerDemon wrote: Also do you see any atheists feeding the poor or sheltering the homeless? Nope and ya dont see people taking care of others in the name of nothing do you?

Incidentally, yes you do.

[SlithVampir]

At 6/25/07 12:40 PM, dodo-man-1 wrote:

At 6/25/07 05:21 AM, TigerDemon wrote: Also do you see any atheists feeding the poor or sheltering the homeless? Nope and ya dont see people taking care of others in the name of nothing do you?

Incidentally, yes you do.

<vile hate> Don't you think for a second that the religious are the only ones who commit acts of charity. If anything, we do them more sincerely, because we don't have imaginary friends forcing us to. We try to help people, you try to buy your way into eternal paradise. </vile hate>

[Elfer]

At 6/25/07 05:21 AM, TigerDemon wrote: Also do you see any atheists feeding the poor or sheltering the homeless? Nope and ya dont see people taking care of others in the name of nothing do you?

Translation: There are no atheist philanthropists.

That's a pretty big leap there. I think you should back it up with some evidence.

[distantgamer]

Just an ignorant christian no-nothing. Move along people.

[Leap]

This is the sort of vile oral bullshit that put me off christanity in the first place. Why do you assume you know everything? I fully accept that that the is stuff going on in the world that science knows nothing about, hell SCIENCE accepts that the is stuff going on in the universe that it knows nothing about. You on the other hand think you know everything important.

<God created the universe and everything in it, everything else is just detail>

Bullshit, I'm not accepting that theory without proof, and one little book thats been rewritten and rewritten over thousands of years does NOT constitue proof.

Hey want to hear somthing cool There are more Atheists in the world than Christains

[Tri-Nitro-Toluene]

What I find amusing is that people are stating he's a Christian when he has the words ' head of the Pagan Crew' in his sig text, and a picture of Anubis (?) in his sig pic.

Definitely not Christian...

[Leap]

TROLL!!!

[Memorize]

At 6/25/07 06:11 AM, Makaio wrote: *cry*

At 6/25/07 06:55 AM, tony4moroney wrote: *cry*

At 6/25/07 12:38 PM, dodo-man-1 wrote: *cry*

At 6/25/07 12:47 PM, SlithVampir wrote: *cry*

At 6/25/07 02:46 PM, Leap wrote: *cry*

Well, at least I know who all of the whiners are.

Double Standards FTW!

[SmackBang]

In my opinion there are 4 types of people, the ignorant, the mislead, the weak minded and atheists.

I agree wholeheartedly with this entire post, other than maybe there are more variations of people than just those four types.

[Memorize]

At 6/25/07 03:06 PM, SmackBang wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly with this entire post, other than maybe there are more variations of people than just those four types.

Actually, atheists cover all three.

Ignorant by using a person's religion against someone while not knowing how that religion functions.

Mislead to believe that when a religous group comes door knocking and won't leave you alone, that is covers all areas of Christianity.

Weak Minded to think that a cross in a WWI cemetary is offensive. Or to be offended by something you believe doesn't exist.

[Leap]

At 6/25/07 03:13 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 6/25/07 03:06 PM, SmackBang wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly with this entire post, other than maybe there are more variations of people than just those four types.

Actually, atheists cover all three.

Ignorant by using a person's religion against someone while not knowing how that religion functions.

You think I don't know how christanity works? I was baptised in a methodist church, evry morning of both primary school and secondary school we had to sit through a sermon and prayers in assembly. I am not ignorant of the inner working of christaniy, I jest realised long ago that I wnted nothing to do with it.

Weak Minded to think that a cross in a WWI cemetary is offensive. Or to be offended by something you believe doesn't exist.

Did i say that? No I did not. Crosses on gravestones? Not offensive, at least not to me, hell, my grandfather has one on his headstone. What I do object to is being told that since I do not believe in some as-yet unproven deity then I will spend all eternity after I die locked in some fiery hell. Its a short step from believing that somebodies eternal soul is dammed to believing their earthly life is worthless, a step it seams all too many fundies have already made.

[Memorize]

At 6/25/07 03:38 PM, Leap wrote:

You think I don't know how christanity works?

Oh, i'm sorry. I thought that I would play the generalize game like you guys.

Do you have any idea how many different religions there are claiming to be under the name of Christianity?

I was baptised in a methodist church, evry morning of both primary school and secondary school we had to sit through a sermon and prayers in assembly.

Who said I was only talking about you? =)

I am not ignorant of the inner working of christaniy, I jest realised long ago that I wnted nothing to do with it.

Well goodie for you.

Did i say that? No I did not.

No. But I did.

Crosses on gravestones? Not offensive, at least not to me, hell, my grandfather has one on his headstone.

ACLU strikes!

The ACLU strikes again!

Nevermind what the Veterans had to say about it.
Nevermind that in the recent case, these crosses were on private property.

What I do object to is being told that since I do not believe in some as-yet unproven deity then I will spend all eternity after I die locked in some fiery hell.

Would that be a religous problem or an individual one?

[SolInvictus]

At 6/25/07 02:09 PM, distantgamer wrote: Just an ignorant christian no-nothing. Move along people.

good job being a dumb shit and further increasing the resentment between theists and atheists.

[TheSovereign]

I don't knock on your door every day, so shut up.

[scorchin-hot]

I think that the OP was a post to anger atheists and prove your point that they are in fact whiners.

[JakeHero]

Not trying to start anything, TigerDemon, but atheists never bitch about polytheists; all they menstrate about are christians and muslims.

[SolInvictus]

At 6/25/07 04:51 PM, JakeHero wrote: Not trying to start anything, TigerDemon, but atheists never bitch about polytheists; all they menstrate about are christians and muslims.

i'm curious though, what about atheists in India?

[TigerDemon]

At 6/25/07 02:09 PM, distantgamer wrote: Just an ignorant christian no-nothing. Move along people.

Wow thank all of you for showing your ability to read a post here. I have said I AM NOT CHRISTIAN AND NOR AM I A FAN OF MANY ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS! You say that I cant prove that there is a god and yet you cant explain how the big bang happened or even what created the elements of the big bang. You say that we are a cosmic one in a million chance. Yea that shows some meaning to life. As for the helping others please show me one group of nonreligious people that are helping others.

[JakeHero]

At 6/25/07 05:05 PM, SolInvictus wrote: i'm curious though, what about atheists in India?

Could, taoists, buddhists, and hindus count? They're ultimate goal is achieving nirvana, when the soul is no longer conscious and is absorbed into the universe like a droplet of water on a pond?

[Ravariel]

At 6/25/07 05:47 PM, Tal-con wrote: God exists, now stop whining

He sure does!

[SmilezRoyale]

Empires were forged before the existance of god, they can be forged After the existance of god.

I'm as equally afraid of an atheist empire as i am a christian one.

And in the similar respect, a rational being in one respect is not rational in another, claims to the existance or existance of any diety brings no comfort to me; the only thing that does is people's sanity and they're potential.

if god doesn't exist, that's fine.

But your assertion to the existance or non existance of a diety as a grounds for your superiority, and your need to clense the world of non beleivers really frightens me.

Re-read your posts and see what i mean by 'As a grounds for your superiority, and your ned to clense the world of non beleivers'

[Tancrisism]

Believe what you are going to believe, and I'm going to not believe in what I'm not going to believe. I hope my not believing doesn't get in the way of your believing and vice versa. So fuck off, babe.

[SmilezRoyale]

ideas are far more flexible than beleifs.

[TheBasics]

That's true, even though many may not believe in religion in general religous groups have done things that improved mankind's standard of living. Disregard the crusades and what not, I'm not talking about past wrongs. I am talking about quality of life today. What I mean is, if the was no religous groups like Christianity, Buddhism etc.... There would be a much higher murder/theft/rape rate, including many other abbominable crimes. Consider this, lets say there are(and I am pulling this out of my ass) 1 billion religous people, these people follow their faith devotedly and do not commit sins. Now lets say that religion didn't exist, who knows how many of those people would have become murderers, rapist, thieves and what not wothout proper guidance. Whether or not God exists is not important, its what the belief that God exists has done is important.

[SmilezRoyale]

i also want to stress that atheism can't inherintly protect people from Wrongdoing, only proper upbrining can do that.