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I like to believe that if you get to the edge of the universe, you teleport to the immediate opposite side.

When they say it is infinite, they mean you can never reach the end, its expanding, and its already hugely vast.

The theory that the universe continuously expands is probably the most logical one, of course these are just theories.

At 6/20/07 09:26 AM, No-oneSpecial wrote: Uh, they say it's infinite because there's no point in us calculating how big just OUR system is. It might be expanding, I don't think they know that for sure. It could just be that we're seeing more of it really. I don't think the church has any sound theory, but I wouldn't read ALL those science journals either. Just relax and take part in being small, there's no fun in being a part of the awful truth.

well compared to our size it's amazing how much we know about space.....There's always room to learn more though....

It's no fun if we just give up because it's too difficult....

At 6/19/07 05:24 PM, cronic-22 wrote: Surly that means there is an edge and what happens when you get to that edge... nothingness??

The thing is you can never get to the edge of the universe becuase the fastest speed is the speed of light so you can never catch up with the expansion so that makes the universe inifinate but it cant be infinate if its got boundries and expanding.
the univese is a strange place, and now iv got a headache!

at every direction in the universe there is a black hole that brings you to the other side of the galexey the universe is not infinate but is VERY BIG.

All you gotta do is get in a spaceship that goes like... 200 miles an hour and get a whole bunch of hot chicks in it and one guy and have babies and make retard babies when the adults die out and then eat bananas and pineapples until you reach the edge. Then buy a postcard and send it back to us.

Simple as that.

At 6/20/07 09:41 AM, guy777 wrote: at every direction in the universe there is a black hole that brings you to the other side of the galexey the universe is not infinate but is VERY BIG.

Black holes are not portals.....they are huge freakin imploded stars that engulf EVERYTHING AND COMPRESS IT SO MUCH THAT IT BECOMES PRACTICALLY INFINITELY SMALL!....

but if a black hole keeps absorbing energy what happens to it all?
Quiet smart ass...

To resolve all arguments, I'm gonna go find it!!

Who's with me?

akward silence

At 6/20/07 09:47 AM, Ss2-teen-gohan-Ss2 wrote: All you gotta do is get in a spaceship that goes like... 200 miles an hour and get a whole bunch of hot chicks in it and one guy and have babies and make retard babies when the adults die out and then eat bananas and pineapples until you reach the edge. Then buy a postcard and send it back to us.

I've got one of those postcards....

dont worry. ur jst a retard. thats y u have a pic of an octupus running after its cock and trying to catch it on ur sig.

At 6/20/07 10:00 AM, Striker028 wrote: To resolve all arguments, I'm gonna go find it!!

Who's with me?

Eh. Got nothin' better to do.

How's Thursday for you?

At 6/20/07 10:10 AM, McJesus wrote:

At 6/20/07 10:00 AM, Striker028 wrote: To resolve all arguments, I'm gonna go find it!!

Who's with me?

Eh. Got nothin' better to do.

How's Thursday for you?

sorry i'm going back in time to prove the existence of evolution

how does wednesday of last year sound?

At 6/20/07 10:13 AM, Striker028 wrote: sorry i'm going back in time to prove the existence of evolution

how does wednesday of last year sound?

Hey, take me. I'm an aspiring christian who needs proof of my religious ramblings.

Ooh.. I don't think I was available last year.

How about three days ago last year today?

At 6/19/07 05:44 PM, IanFulp wrote:

Can it be that there is a genius?

Not me anyway.

Go faster then the speed of light!

I don't give a shit if it's impossible!

At 6/20/07 10:15 AM, McJesus wrote:

At 6/20/07 10:13 AM, Striker028 wrote: sorry i'm going back in time to prove the existence of evolution

how does wednesday of last year sound?

Hey, take me. I'm an aspiring christian who needs proof of my religious ramblings.

Ooh.. I don't think I was available last year.

How about three days ago last year today?

well, according to the laws of time if i were to go back in time for an even amount of days a space-time continueum loops would generate a time glitch canceling out my existence.

so it'll have to be last year three days ago after tomorrow, if that's ok with you.

The end of the universe is covered with mirrors and thick space-fog.

At 6/20/07 10:18 AM, Striker028 wrote: well, according to the laws of time if i were to go back in time for an even amount of days a space-time continueum loops would generate a time glitch canceling out my existence.

so it'll have to be last year three days ago after tomorrow, if that's ok with you.

Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that.

Alright, last year three days ago after tomorrow it is.

We'll be back to post later about out great adventures.

Think about it... Universe isn't supposed to be infinite it is just 4D.
Let's use 3D Earth as example:
Our example hasn't got any seas or any other kind of barriers so you can walk around.
Stand on the north pole and go straight.
Soon you will come to north pole again as our example is closed.
It is a sphere.
Now convert that in 4D and you got The Universe.
That means, if you try to get to the end of The Universe (though it may be bigger than our example) you will appear at the start.
If you don't fully understand the 4th dimension you won't get this.
If you are fan of Einstein then you have to know that... ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_dimension

Well, we know that the entire universe has expanded from a singularity; one single, zero-dimension point from which all energy in the universe has somehow burst forth. Way back then, there was no matter; there was only energy in it's purest form: light. The laws of physics find this impossible to explain. Anyway, energy, with no matter to slow it down travels at it's optimum speed through space: the speed of light. But there was no space. Space had to be created for energy to be able to travel through it. So, it explodes outwards creating space and this process created matter.
I'm failing to explain myself very well, here. It has to do with the theory of relativity. You are actually travelling at the speed of light; but that speed is shared between the dimensions of space and time:
Imagine you're in a car with a top speed of 100mph. You can travel forward at 100mph or sideways at 100mph. But to travel diagonally, your speed must be shared between forward and sideways so that to travel at a 45 degree angle you would be travelling at 50mph forwards and 50mph sideways. The same principle is true of travelling through space and time because in reality, time is just another dimension of space.
So, in the beginning there was only light and it travelled at the ultimate speed through space but to do this it needed to create some. It's a bizzare concept that I'm having difficulty explaining.
Anyways, for it to be travelling at it's optimum speed through space, it would have to be travelling at 0 speed through time. That's why the beginning of the universe makes no sense: there was no time but it required space. Ow, my head hurts.
Well, at some very small unit of time after the singularity space existed but so did time. Therefore the energies travel through space must be slowed down for time to exist.
If there is a mid-point, after which we shrink back into a singularity, then there must be a switch-over point where there is no speed through space. However, this implies there must be optimum speed through time. What? I don't know...
Okay, so I'm kind of failing to get a point across. The singularity appears to be an impossible concept. Basically, I think... at the singularity, everything was energy and therefore could exist without space as there was 0 mass. But then there is this idea that we'll collapse inwards on ourselves. At that exact moment there must be no speed through space and everything must therefore be pure matter: 0 energy, with optimum speed through time.
Aaaargh... I hate this stuff.
So, what lies beyond the singularity or beyond the ultimate mass point? Well, that's an unanswerable question seeing as physics can't even explain the very beginning of the universe or the central line in time.
Why anything is able to exist is something that completely baffles us and probably always will. Did I say probably? I meant to say definately.
With current ideas, the only term that explains this phenomena is something called a "miracle".
So... what lies beyond space-time itself? Nothing. Not even empty space. Not even time. If you were able to get there, you would cease to exist. But you can't get there because it's a paradox anyway.
Grr, what a mind-fuck.

At 6/20/07 08:52 AM, Kidiri wrote: Because every planet has it's own gravity, which influences evrything in it's vicinity, they are all slowing down

Wrong. Everything in the universe is expanding at an ever increasing rate of speed. We're getting faster, not slower.

In fact, unless we find something to prove otherwise, it's a ver reasonable thought to realize that eventually everything is going to be going so fast and so far apart from everything else that when something like a star dies, there won't be enough matter around to help create a new one. Eventually, the universe will just die.... nothing will be left be a few lonely desolate rocks floating endlessly, alone, forever.

At 6/20/07 09:26 AM, No-oneSpecial wrote: Uh, they say it's infinite because there's no point in us calculating how big just OUR system is.

No, the universe really is infinitly large. Scientists don't just make shit up because they're too lazy to calculate something. The universe is about 156 billion years wide... but it's forever expanding at an ever increaseing rate of speed so counting the nothing the universe expands into, the universe is infinatly large.

At 6/20/07 11:14 AM, lolomfgisuck wrote:

Wrong. Everything in the universe is expanding at an ever increasing rate of speed. We're getting faster, not slower.

This is just a theory based on the observation of supernovas. Not fact.

There are two possible outcomes to the universe.

Possibility A: The gravity caused by all the matter in the universe eventually overpowers the expanding universe and it starts to reverse and shrink again until the big crunch which will then spark another big bang. I like this theory as this explains an infinite existence of everything.

Possibility B: Either because the universe expansion is speeding up or just because matter gets too far apart to stop the universe expanding it goes on forever and everything gets further and further apart, humans will never travel to other galaxies or systems light and energy will leak away slowly from earth and stars until the universe becomes a dead wasteland, which doesn't seem to be the nature of most things in this world, everything seems to sustain itself. I think this is a pretty depressing outcome and don't believe that this is the case.

Many people believe that the universe is a big sphere or ball and there is no "edge". If you try and walk off it you will just curve round just like you do on earth, theres no edge to earth, you follow the gravitational pull. (But instead of being on top of the sphere like we are on earth; we are inside it.)

Don't you think, they'll make a way to travel faster than the speed of light eventually, therefore, some crazy experiment will take place and we'll end up destroying the universe?

At 6/20/07 12:17 PM, H-A-X-O-R-Z wrote: Don't you think, they'll make a way to travel faster than the speed of light eventually, therefore, some crazy experiment will take place and we'll end up destroying the universe?

It is impossible! Einstein says so.

Although it has been observed that instantaneous communication seems to happen between particles that can be any distance apart. But this doesn't have a lot to do with faster than light travel. I think it has something to do with string entanglement but I may be wrong.

At 6/20/07 09:26 AM, No-oneSpecial wrote: Uh, they say it's infinite because there's no point in us calculating how big just OUR system is.

Scientist 1: "How big is your cock?"

Scientist 2: "Well, I don't have a ruler on me..................so...................infi nite."

It's nothing to worry about. The universe WILL end, be it by the Big Crunch, Big Rip, whatever you prefer. But by then, Humans will be extinct,(Or moved to another planet) and the Earth will have been destroyed by The Sun, or many other cosmic disasters.

Youre right. Even with teleporting, we cant catch up with it, since our molecules travel at the speed of light while teleporting. Let Einstein figure this out.

At 6/20/07 11:14 AM, lolomfgisuck wrote: Wrong. Everything in the universe is expanding at an ever increasing rate of speed. We're getting faster, not slower.

So if the universe is increasing in speed that would suggest there is constantly a form of energy being added to the universe....

and also if the universe's speed is always increasing wouldn't it's speed one day be equal or greater than the speed of light and time would stop or start going backwards? or have I got this principal all wrong?...

At 6/19/07 05:24 PM, cronic-22 wrote:

The thing is you can never get to the edge of the universe becuase the fastest speed is the speed of light.

we did break the speed of sound, Then someday we WILL break the speed of light. True.

At 6/20/07 08:52 AM, Kidiri wrote: Look at the planets, they're all globes (more or less). Why? Because it's the perfect form. Every point on the surface is equidistant to the centre. Since the universe was created by the Big Bang, which was in one point, and every little atom was flung into space, all with the same speed, we can assume that also the universe is a globe. It's centre is where the Big Bang happened and where the Big Crunch will happen.

My vision is that the universe is expanding, but someday will stop expanding. This is a simple consequence of gravity. You throw something up and it will fall down. In the universe there is (most likely) no such thing as a giant planet in the middle. Because every planet has it's own gravity, which influences evrything in it's vicinity, they are all slowing down and at some point in time they will stop moving apart and start moving in eachother's direction.

No the expansion of the universe is higher than escape velocity because of dark energy so from what we know there is no way the universe will have a Big Crunch. Instead it will just continually expand forever. However new evidence could arise to disprove that but until then that it the most highly accepted theory.