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Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 16:25:37 Reply

we all know the basics:
Democracy - Capitalism
Socialism - Communism
Theocracies - and if i missed one feel free to post
which one do you think its the worst?
i think socialism, Venezuela for example, people get so used to govt. hand outs that they dont bother to work, which makes more poverty and eventually breaks the govt. money (budget)


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 16:27:11 Reply

Capitalism seems to be the only way because Socialism is just so plain stupid.


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 16:35:16 Reply

Social Democracy.

Capitalism with the good bits of socialism.

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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 16:36:59 Reply

At 6/19/07 04:35 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: Social Democracy.

Capitalism with the good bits of socialism.

Should add that the above is the best in my opinion.

Damn my trigger happy finger!

Worst would be Communism I suppose.

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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 16:52:40 Reply

At 6/19/07 04:25 PM, MissingNYC wrote: i think socialism, Venezuela for example

bad example


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 16:54:23 Reply

Communism is a good theory, but will not work due to human nature.


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 16:58:21 Reply

Well, in my opinion theorocracys are the worst.

There hasnt bean a true communist countrie, all there has bean was dictatorship communist countries.

Democracys are the best, but they have to be put together right or els civil war will happen or it will fall apart.

Socialism and capitalism can be apart of the other governments. A democratic government neads to be socilaist when it neads to be or ells no one will work, but if some things arnt socialized than everyone but the rich will suffer.

Just look at the united states for an example of the latter.

Capitalism is a economic not a gvernment type.

Therocracys and communism are best for small communitys not entire countries. You might want to look at communism if you want to start some cult somewere.


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 17:33:40 Reply

At 6/19/07 04:58 PM, Zoraxe7 wrote: You might want to look at communism if you want to start some cult somewere.

Jonestown anyone?


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 17:50:33 Reply

I'll quote Winston Churchill on this:
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others"

And Thomas Jefferson! Why not?
"Democracy is mob rule where 51% of the population can take away the rights of the other 49%"

Lets get Stalin in here while we're at it:
"When we hang the capitalists, they'll sell us the rope we use"

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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 17:54:59 Reply

At 6/19/07 05:53 PM, MickTheChampion wrote: Communism isn't a government system, you cretins.

Technically it is. It's just easier to impliment with other government systems.

Capitalism on the other hand isn't.

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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 18:13:57 Reply

I think Fascism is the worsed.


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 18:16:45 Reply

Democracy and Capitalism don't go hand in hand, and really communism is just a form of socialism. In reality, those are completely different subjects; Democracy is a government system, just like Monarchy or Oligarchy or Anarchy (If you consider the latter). Socialism, Capitalism, and Mixed Market (The U.S is a Mixed Market, not a capitalism) are economic systems.


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 18:19:13 Reply

At 6/19/07 05:53 PM, MickTheChampion wrote: Communism isn't a government system, you cretins.

True, but it's close. It has many more government effects then your average, run of the mill socialism.


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 18:25:05 Reply

At 6/19/07 06:13 PM, Kev-o wrote: I think Fascism is the worsed.

Words only spoken by people who have no idea what Fascism is.


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 18:34:45 Reply

At 6/19/07 06:25 PM, animehater wrote:
Words only spoken by people who have no idea what Fascism is.

Lolno. Fascism is the worst. People in the Military are promoted due to their skill and valor IN COMBAT, not do to their political savvy. Which means when those same people get promoted high enough to run some aspect of the nation, they tend to be horribly innificient at it, though I do admit that the nation tends to be pretty safe for the civillians.

It's as if the U.S started changing to laws so we determine who get's to be a congressmen by taking a group of 1000 people, and the 100 who do the best in a game of Bingo get elected.


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 18:39:00 Reply

At 6/19/07 06:34 PM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote: It's as if the U.S started changing to laws so we determine who get's to be a congressmen by taking a group of 1000 people, and the 100 who do the best in a game of Bingo get elected.

Better than a bunch of those bingo players screwing around your money as well as everything else.


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 18:56:35 Reply

At 6/19/07 06:34 PM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote: People in the Military are promoted due to their skill and valor IN COMBAT, not do to their political savvy.

You have no idea.

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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 18:59:24 Reply

At 6/19/07 06:56 PM, TheloniousMONK wrote:
You have no idea.

Excuse me? People in the military get promotions do to how GOOD OF A SOLDIER THEY ARE. That's a basic fact. They do not get promotions because a higher up decides that they're views of supply side economics are riveting. Plumbers get promoted for being good plumbers, lawyers get promoted for being good lawyers, and soldiers get promoted for being good soldiers.


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 19:01:20 Reply

At 6/19/07 06:39 PM, animehater wrote:
Better than a bunch of those bingo players screwing around your money as well as everything else.

That "comeback" made no sense.


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 19:02:44 Reply

At 6/19/07 07:00 PM, MickTheChampion wrote: As defined by Marx, it's a stateless society that comes about after the Dictatorship of the Proletariat has "withered away".

So really Communism was meant to be a sort of Socialist/Anarchist mix?


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 19:06:29 Reply

At 6/19/07 07:01 PM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote: That "comeback" made no sense.

I mean Communism is worse in my opinion.


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 19:06:29 Reply

At 6/19/07 04:35 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: Social Democracy.

Capitalism with the good bits of socialism.

Like Canada, the U.S., the U.K., and pretty much every other major American/European/African country.

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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 19:09:09 Reply

At 6/19/07 05:50 PM, altanese-mistress wrote:
Lets get Stalin in here while we're at it:
"When we hang the capitalists, they'll sell us the rope we use"

No that's just stupid. It's "The Capitalists will fight to sell us the rope with which we will hang them". Your version is just dumb.

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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 19:15:32 Reply

obviously the worst is anarchy; i mean, technically it is a government system, just non-existant. Even communism has some points over anarchy

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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 19:16:04 Reply

At 6/19/07 06:59 PM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote: Excuse me? People in the military get promotions do to how GOOD OF A SOLDIER THEY ARE. That's a basic fact. They do not get promotions because a higher up decides that they're views of supply side economics are riveting. Plumbers get promoted for being good plumbers, lawyers get promoted for being good lawyers, and soldiers get promoted for being good soldiers.

Did you forget that the military is a government organization? The military does not operate on market principles. Take it from someone who was in. It works like any other government job. Once you are in (and they will take just about anybody) stay out of any major trouble and you will get promoted, and your pay will increase, based on certain timetables. Glowing evaluations from commanding officers will only help get you through the few bottlenecks that exist, but even then it is simply a numbers game.

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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 19:16:40 Reply

At 6/19/07 07:15 PM, 5uicideX wrote: obviously the worst is anarchy; i mean, technically it is a government system, just non-existant. Even communism has some points over anarchy

Did you already add that over in the anarchy thread?


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At 6/19/07 07:15 PM, 5uicideX wrote: obviously the worst is anarchy; i mean, technically it is a government system, just non-existant. Even communism has some points over anarchy

Anarchy is like the color black: Technically, it's the absence of all color. It is, however visible itsself.

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At 6/19/07 07:16 PM, Cole wrote: Anarchy is like the color black: Technically, it's the absence of all color. It is, however visible itsself.

I think that color is their symbol actually. Ironically I think it's used by fascists as well


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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 19:26:16 Reply

At 6/19/07 07:20 PM, animehater wrote:
At 6/19/07 07:16 PM, Cole wrote: Anarchy is like the color black: Technically, it's the absence of all color. It is, however visible itsself.
I think that color is their symbol actually. Ironically I think it's used by fascists as well

I always thought it was that spraypaint-y red A with a circle around it. Anarchists annoy me.

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Response to Worst Goverment System? 2007-06-19 19:30:05 Reply

At 6/19/07 07:00 PM, MickTheChampion wrote: Learn yo shit.

That is a very strict view of an outdated communism. Now there are democratic means to impliment communist ideals, such as FDR's New Deal.