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Posted at: 6/8/03 07:53 PM

At 6/8/03 05:07 AM, AnRkeyPenguin wrote:
At 6/7/03 10:29 PM, nailbomb wrote:
At 6/7/03 08:14 AM, AnRkeyPenguin wrote: The funniest thing about Micheal Moore is how he pretends to be just a regular Joe but actually has a few billion dollars. He probably hires a secretary to stain up a shirt from wallmart with mustard so he can take an interview on the daily show without looking rich. For someone who seems to hate the republican party so much he sure does seem to hoard pretty well. (Money and fat deposits)
You pulled that billion dollar figure straight from your ass didn't you?

Besides, Ad hominem attacks only show your lack of arguments. Criticize ideas, not people.
Obviously Micheal Moore doesn't have a billion dollars. The point was that he pretends not to be rich and calls himself the champion of the poor when he has a ferrari and a multimillion dollar home.

I'd like to see your sources for those claims, I don't remember seeing "I am not rich" and "I am the champion of the poor" on his website or books or anything.


What the hell are you talking about attacks? When did I attack him? Saying it's funny that he does things diffrently then he preaches is an attack? Nice job with the freshman year debate Ad hominem card, but I didn't even critize him, I just find it funny. Maybe next time you should get a grasp on basic comprehension rather than jumping for latin.

He probably hires a secretary to stain up a shirt from wallmart with mustard so he can take an interview on the daily show without looking rich.
"probably"? Who are you, Collin Powell? Don't make outrageous claims you can't prove.


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Posted at: 6/9/03 11:30 AM

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At 6/8/03 03:36 AM, OnionClock wrote: Micheal Moore is a pathological liar and when be sent to hell first before even stepping in a church.

Spilled your pint, right?

By the way, is it getting through to Anarchy Penguin who I was referring to, or do I need to draw diagrams?

By the way he called christians "jesus freaks" during a interview after the oscars.

They are Jesus Freaks, that's what religion is. Jeez, how desperate are you to try and trash him?!?

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Posted at: 6/9/03 06:24 PM

I'm still waiting for your sources! ;)


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Posted at: 6/11/03 04:38 PM

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At 6/6/03 06:52 PM, Commander-K25 wrote:
Not because he disagrees, but because he slants his works to present only a select side of an issue, (his side). They're not documentaries, they're editorials on film. He asks leading questions to the "right" (read: left) sort of people.

yes, but its considered a documentary because he conducts interviews. and didnt only ask right wing people, he went to canada and interviewed plenty of people there. he even interviewed a former convict. whether most or some of those were staged is beyond me, but the point is who cares? he still brought up some good points.

Even the New York Times says he uses "slippery logic, tendentious grandstanding and outright demagoguery." And that's from a left-wing paper!

left wing? do you read the NY times?? its become plenty conservative over the years.

His style is lazy, his reasoning that he presents and his methods are slipshod and clearly slanted. His movie doesn't even really answer the question of violence in America, it's just another "Let's Hate America" piece.

yes it does, if you agree with him. he traces americas roots back to the cause of the problem, which he saw as slavery and the demonization of blacks in the media. if you dont agree with him, its probable youre a closet racist, and probably shouldnt have watched the movie in the first place.


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Posted at: 6/21/03 09:34 PM

AnRkeyPenguin, I'M STILL WAITING FOR YOUR SOURCES!!


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Posted at: 6/22/03 12:56 AM

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Michael Moore is a manipulative, fat turd who loves to try and get things his way. If you have seen his movie, he took advantage of someone who has alzheimers and blew everything out of proportion. That's the way he works. In case if you haven't noticed, he is VERY HIPPOCRATIC about everything he says/does. He is a member of the NRA, and yet he against guns? Wow, he needs to be removed for his hippocratic views. Enough said, he is a moron.


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At 6/22/03 12:56 AM, 70TA wrote: Michael Moore is a manipulative, fat turd who loves to try and get things his way. If you have seen his movie, he took advantage of someone who has alzheimers and blew everything out of proportion. That's the way he works. In case if you haven't noticed, he is VERY HIPPOCRATIC about everything he says/does. He is a member of the NRA, and yet he against guns? Wow, he needs to be removed for his hippocratic views. Enough said, he is a moron.

OK, can we have a response we haven't seen, like, 600 times please? By the way, nice misinterpretation and misreading there...

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Posted at: 6/22/03 07:40 PM

*waits patiently*


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At 6/22/03 10:39 AM, D2KVirus wrote: By the way, nice misinterpretation and misreading there...

What do you mean?


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Posted at: 6/23/03 03:07 AM

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At 6/22/03 10:39 AM, D2KVirus wrote:
At 6/22/03 12:56 AM, 70TA wrote: Michael Moore is a manipulative, fat turd who loves to try and get things his way. If you have seen his movie, he took advantage of someone who has alzheimers and blew everything out of proportion. That's the way he works. In case if you haven't noticed, he is VERY HIPPOCRATIC about everything he says/does. He is a member of the NRA, and yet he against guns? Wow, he needs to be removed for his hippocratic views. Enough said, he is a moron.
OK, can we have a response we haven't seen, like, 600 times please? By the way, nice misinterpretation and misreading there...

Ok, can you go a day without flaming. You hardly even debate you just insult people all the freaking time. Even the DAG thinks you are a flamer.


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At 6/22/03 07:40 PM, nailbomb wrote: *waits patiently*

He doesnt have to say it to be acting like it, I would think you of all people would know that because you yourself constantly accused Commander of some sort of conservative like thing.


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At 6/23/03 03:07 AM, Jimsween wrote:
Ok, can you go a day without flaming. You hardly even debate you just insult people all the freaking time. Even the DAG thinks you are a flamer.

OK, boys and girls, let's play "Spot The Ironic Statement."

And kindly back up the latest bitchy comment your throw out like a rock, just for a little variety.

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At 6/23/03 08:15 AM, D2KVirus wrote: like a rock

Yeah, Chevy!


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Posted at: 6/23/03 12:58 PM

At 6/7/03 08:14 AM, AnRkeyPenguin wrote:
The funniest thing about Micheal Moore is how he pretends to be just a regular Joe but actually has a few billion dollars. He probably hires a secretary to stain up a shirt from wallmart with mustard so he can take an interview on the daily show without looking rich. For someone who seems to hate the republican party so much he sure does seem to hoard pretty well. (Money and fat deposits)

I'd like to see the sources for that stain-secretary claim. And where he's pretending to be a regular Joe.


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At 6/23/03 03:07 AM, Jimsween wrote:
At 6/22/03 10:39 AM, D2KVirus wrote: OK, can we have a response we haven't seen, like, 600 times please? By the way, nice misinterpretation and misreading there...
Ok, can you go a day without flaming. You hardly even debate you just insult people all the freaking time. Even the DAG thinks you are a flamer.

I, for one, would like to see your source for saying that we, the DAG, consider D2Kvirus a flamer.


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Posted at: 6/24/03 11:29 AM

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Didn't think so.


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Posted at: 6/24/03 01:21 PM

HA! Once again, logical thinking has triumphed over flaming and ranting.


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Posted at: 6/24/03 01:25 PM

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you america hating hippie!


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Posted at: 6/24/03 01:28 PM

At 6/24/03 01:25 PM, BootlegJones wrote: you america hating hippie!

Love your country, fight your government.


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Posted at: 6/24/03 07:30 PM

At 6/24/03 07:15 PM, BaKsHi wrote: michael moore is a feminist

I never read anything about feminism in any of his books. Or never saw anything ahbout feminism in either of his docu-dramas.

:who doesn't have real answers to problems.

He's not claiming to have the answers, he'e merely pointing our problems and the sources of these problems.

:hes not really empathetic, cus he doesn't know how others think,

Who does?

:and he isn't aware that you can't easily stop wars just like that.

What about all of his other views on socio-political matters?

:hes a hippie,

No...hippies do drugs and are poor and have long hair and live in communes.

:he funny,

He funny sure is.

:but he doesn't think like most people think when running a government.

Which proves what exactly?


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Posted at: 6/25/03 11:45 AM

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At 6/24/03 07:15 PM, BaKsHi wrote: he funny, but he doesn't think like most people think when running a government.

"Against an assault of humour, nothing can stand.' - Mark Twain (a quote Moore uses, so it isn't misquoting)

Just because the delivery isn't po-faced doesn't mean it isn't valid. After all, I take Moore, Bill Hicks and Jello Biafra over Noam Chomsky, the coffee table intellectualist, since they have emotion behind their work, which is needed when discussing an issue, rather than cold cerebralism.

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Posted at: 6/25/03 02:48 PM

Exactly, is it no wonder that Moore surpassed Chomsky in book sales and Biafra surpassed Chomsky in spoken word records/events sales?


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Posted at: 6/26/03 04:26 AM

At 6/25/03 05:05 PM, BaKsHi wrote: yeah, but did you know that france harbors weapons of mass destructions. errr sorry, random ADD thing. yeah.

who the #$%# are u talking about, are you saying someone like moore surpassed some polish or russian guy i don't know in book sales?

I see that you never heard about Noam Chomsky? He studies US foreign and military policies and writes books on it. He's quite an eye-opener but lacks Moore's ability to send the message to the everyday citizen.


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Posted at: 6/26/03 04:28 AM

At 6/25/03 05:16 PM, BaKsHi wrote: it is true that i read Michael Moores 'Stupid White Men' book, I had a good laugh, but people shouldn't take his politics seriously.

And why not?


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Posted at: 6/26/03 02:55 PM

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At 6/26/03 04:28 AM, nailbomb wrote:
At 6/25/03 05:16 PM, BaKsHi wrote: it is true that i read Michael Moores 'Stupid White Men' book, I had a good laugh, but people shouldn't take his politics seriously.
And why not?

Well, his solution to Northern Ireland is a tad ridiculous: Anointing a garden hose, and make more Catholics? As for the Balkans, I doubt they can resurrect Tito (who was Slovenian, fact fans).

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