should they really

[Jeriad-440]

Should they really allow people to be cloned?

Even though it's not funded by the government, unheard of independent organizations are giving money out the ass for this type of research should this be Allowed tell me what you think

[Boltrig]

At 6/14/07 08:01 PM, Jeriad-440 wrote: Should they really allow people to be cloned?

Even though it's not funded by the government, unheard of independent organizations are giving money out the ass for this type of research should this be Allowed tell me what you think

Youre in the realms of sci fi so far. The moral implications of cloning entire people are going to keep humanity back for at least decades.

Speaking as someone who eventually wants to become a SOCO (British CSI) Im against human cloning Identical DNA gives too good an alibi. Tag team clone criminals would pwn the police service!! Lol

[Twiligh]

I say cloning bad. Mostly because I know a lot of people who I would never like to see more then 2 of.

[altanese-mistress]

Nature versus nurture could be figured out, if nothing else. If you cloned Hitler and raised him in a loving liberal Jewish family of hippies, would he still turn out an anti-semetic, charismatic, supremacist dick?

Other than that, it's a perfect way to get all those yummy organs people keep wasting. Eventually with a little help from abortion (stem cells) you would be able to grow the organs without any human clones needed. Thus, the morals aren't an issue. Except the abortion part....

[InsertFunnyUserName]

In my eyes, the develupmentation of cloning is both good and bad.

It's bad because people would clone other people. This is just morally wrong as well as the fact that we just don't need any more damn people. I'm afraid if we let scientists expeirement with cloning, that the abusive part of human nature would take over and take it too far.

But it could also be a very good asset. Every year, at least 2000 people die because they never got the doner organs that they needed. What if we could creat a way to clone the organs of healthy people so that they would be an unlimited resource?

It comes down to whether or not science can prove itself responcible before the law catches up.

[altanese-mistress]

At 6/15/07 08:02 AM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: It's bad because people would clone other people.

I seriously doubt it will ever reach the point where the average person can clone at a whim. It will always be done in a lab with scientists, and people that smart know what they're doing.

[WilliWowza]

If the research in cloning is to make organs which can be used for implants, I'm all for it. I wouldn't be too keen on some rich toff simply cloning himself to have an heir. We should let science advance so we can see what we can even do first before you start putting barriers on 'What's right and what's wrong'.

[gijfef]

cloning is good... I use clonig to make lots of killer frogs

[Mewie]

Great discussion.

I discussed this topic extensively while I was in law school. It was a course on Legal Aspects of Future War. My classmate made a prediction about how genetic engineering/cloning will be a a significant national security issue and the U.S. will suffer. Imagine "superior" soldiers, advanced medicines and surgical operations, and biological implants determining who will win a war.

Why should America be concerned?

B/c of our moral values, we're way behind everyone else who is doing this form of research/business. Other countries will surpass us in this regard. Then again, we can just steal their research when the time comes, or do something else to stay ahead of the game. But yah, it's a major worry amongst those who realize the potential of cloning/genetic engineering.

[Leap]

At 6/15/07 05:59 AM, altanese-mistress wrote: Nature versus nurture could be figured out, if nothing else. If you cloned Hitler and raised him in a loving liberal Jewish family of hippies, would he still turn out an anti-semetic, charismatic, supremacist dick?

Thats the plot of a very good film. "the boys from brazil" . It also bring up an interestring question. Which affects us more? Out genetic or aour enviroment?

[altanese-mistress]

At 6/15/07 09:41 PM, Leap wrote: Thats the plot of a very good film. "the boys from brazil" . It also bring up an interestring question. Which affects us more? Out genetic or aour enviroment?

Never heard of the movie, but that's just my point exactly.

[Dr-Worm]

At 6/15/07 05:59 AM, altanese-mistress wrote: Nature versus nurture could be figured out, if nothing else. If you cloned Hitler and raised him in a loving liberal Jewish family of hippies, would he still turn out an anti-semetic, charismatic, supremacist dick?

Well, that's an emotional thing, not a genetic thing, so he'd end up much differently. He would still only have one testicle, though.

Other than that, it's a perfect way to get all those yummy organs people keep wasting. Eventually with a little help from abortion (stem cells) you would be able to grow the organs without any human clones needed.

Actually, interestingly enough they've just started to learn that they might be able to make working human organs from scratch.....with a fucking printer. Seriously.

[SmilezRoyale]

At 6/15/07 05:59 AM, altanese-mistress wrote: Nature versus nurture could be figured out, if nothing else. If you cloned Hitler and raised him in a loving liberal Jewish family of hippies, would he still turn out an anti-semetic, charismatic, supremacist dick?

No, and this is prooven; humans havn't been cloned... but other animals have.

no one reads my posts.

[altanese-mistress]

At 6/15/07 10:01 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: No, and this is prooven; humans havn't been cloned... but other animals have.

1) I never said that it has happened, I was merely giving a hypothetical situation. In fact you'd be an idiot to think someone HAS cloned Hitler and raised him in a family of liberal Jewish hippies.
2) Who are you to say that humans have never been cloned?

no one reads my posts.

Only because you apparently don't pay attention to anyone else's

[TheBasics]

I don't think cloning people would be a good idea, whats the use? More people on the planet to worry about? But that stem cell research makes sense, cloning organs and ONLY organs would be a good idea.It would save many lives, for example someone who desperately needs a heart transplant, or an extra kidney or liver.

[notld224]

At 6/15/07 05:59 AM, altanese-mistress wrote: Nature versus nurture could be figured out, if nothing else. If you cloned Hitler and raised him in a loving liberal Jewish family of hippies, would he still turn out an anti-semetic, charismatic, supremacist dick?

Other than that, it's a perfect way to get all those yummy organs people keep wasting. Eventually with a little help from abortion (stem cells) you would be able to grow the organs without any human clones needed. Thus, the morals aren't an issue. Except the abortion part....

And cloning someone just to rip out their guts.

No seriously, for me cloning poses a problem because it defeats an animals ability to adapt. Now Chimera is a good idea, and might be quite interesting (think superhumans). But other than that. Not much else to say...

And I'm all for stem cells, so long as you're ripping off embryos and umbilical cords.

[Paradigms]

They don't allow, there is a global ban on cloning people, scientists are allows to clone plants & animals, but not humans.

[altanese-mistress]

At 6/16/07 02:27 PM, Potempkin wrote: They don't allow, there is a global ban on cloning people,

Just because it's 'illegal' doesn't mean it doesn't happen, either by the vry governments that ban it or by large corporations.

scientists are allows to clone plants & animals, but not humans.

Wait, PLANTS? O_o You realize that you can clone most plants naturally, right? I mean I'm hardly a scientist and I've done it dozens of times in school.

[blznavy]

cloneing could be a good thing and a bad thing, good, someone to help you clean, someone to play with, someone to do things for you,ext. and the bad things are people to help you rob places, kill people and such

so im against cloneing and its moroly wrong

[altanese-mistress]

At 6/16/07 11:29 PM, blznavy wrote: good, someone to help you clean, someone to play with, someone to do things for you,ext. and the bad things are people to help you rob places, kill people and such

That's not cloning. Not even a bit. I think you're thinking of having a robot servent.

so im against cloneing and its moroly wrong

Explain. And don't say that the above WAS your explanation, because it doesn't apply to cloning

[InsertFunnyUserName]

At 6/15/07 08:29 AM, altanese-mistress wrote: I seriously doubt it will ever reach the point where the average person can clone at a whim. It will always be done in a lab with scientists, and people that smart know what they're doing.

The most currupt creations come from scientists in labrotorys.