Rasicm.

[Monkey-Boy]

I am from the U.K, and this is written about the U.K

This is not meant to offend anybody out there.

The word Paki, a racist term for a Pakistani person (Commonly used in the U.K), racist or not.

I believe that this term is NOT racist.

I mean, it's an abbreviation.
It's just like saying Brit for a British person.
Us Brits don't take offence when people say Brit, but if we say paki we are instantly branded racist.

It's the same with Black people.

If a white person was to say N*gger, we would instantly be branded a racist.
But yet day in day out they can call us any name under the sun, such as Honkey or white boy.
At my school, there is this one (Black kid) that takes offence if I say 'Black person'
I remember this one video on youtube where a black person, supposedly stopping racism, called white people 'Scum of the earth' and called for them to be killed.

I mean, it's not right.
But most of all, I get really pissed off by someone, say from Pakistan,(Just an example).
They come into our already overcrowded country, and the F*cking government treats them like royalty. They even get free houses, sometimes.
Then if we disagree with them we are called racist.

I'm fucking sick of it.
It's unfair and the English government is treating these asylum seekers better than their own people. The English People.

</short rant>

What is it like where you are?

Is it the same?

[Elesaurus]

At 6/13/07 01:30 PM, Monkey-Boy wrote: I am from the U.K, and this is written about the U.K

Ok, same' I'm from London.

This is not meant to offend anybody out there.

Well, let's hope not.

The word Paki, a racist term for a Pakistani person (Commonly used in the U.K), racist or not.

Yes, It is still a racist word.

I believe that this term is NOT racist.

Sorry to disappoint you, but it's racist

I mean, it's an abbreviation.
It's just like saying Brit for a British person.
Us Brits don't take offence when people say Brit, but if we say paki we are instantly branded racist.

So would you call a Pakistani person a 'Paki'?

It's the same with Black people.

Ugh.. what?

If a white person was to say N*gger, we would instantly be branded a racist.
But yet day in day out they can call us any name under the sun, such as Honkey or white boy.
At my school, there is this one (Black kid) that takes offence if I say 'Black person'
I remember this one video on youtube where a black person, supposedly stopping racism, called white people 'Scum of the earth' and called for them to be killed.

Erm Yes... Because the 'N' Word is racist slur.

I'm fucking sick of it.
It's unfair and the English government is treating these asylum seekers better than their own people. The English People.

</short rant>

What is it like where you are?

Is it the same?

But where I am, It is similar, using the word 'Paki' is more like a term than a racist word, Even tho I do not say the word 'Paki', many of my friends still do, they use it like a term, Which sickens me.

[Cheekyvincent]

something called political correctness.

u would get bullied and called racist for the rest of your life until u commited suicide if u said that in public

[Monkey-Boy]

At 6/13/07 01:34 PM, Elesaurus wrote:

The word Paki, a racist term for a Pakistani person (Commonly used in the U.K), racist or not.

Yes, It is still a racist word.

Well, if it's racist, so is the word Brit

I believe that this term is NOT racist.

Sorry to disappoint you, but it's racist

It's an abbreviation.

Us Brits don't take offence when people say Brit, but if we say paki we are instantly branded racist.

If a white person was to say N*gger, we would instantly be branded a racist.
But yet day in day out they can call us any name under the sun, such as Honkey or white boy.
I remember this one video on youtube where a black person, supposedly stopping racism, called white people 'Scum of the earth' and called for them to be killed.

Erm Yes... Because the 'N' Word is racist slur.

So is the word 'Honkey' (Which he called white people) Only difference is nobody cares because it's against White people.
Saying I want all white people killed is also racist, just lie Hitler.

I'm fucking sick of it.
It's unfair and the English government is treating these asylum seekers better than their own people. The English People.

</short rant>

But where I am, It is similar, using the word 'Paki' is more like a term than a racist word, Even tho I do not say the word 'Paki', many of my friends still do, they use it like a term, Which sickens me.

[Elesaurus]

At 6/13/07 01:42 PM, Monkey-Boy wrote

Well, if it's racist, so is the word Brit

Fine, So are you offended by the word 'Brit'? It's just shorter to say than British. It's never been classed as a racist slur or term, therefore it's not racist to say. That's like calling some American a redneck or a yank.

Sorry to disappoint you, but it's racist

It's an abbreviation.

Then it's an abbreviation gone wrong, It's still racism

Us Brits don't take offence when people say Brit, but if we say paki we are instantly branded racist.

Yes, 'Paki' can be classed offensive.

Erm Yes... Because the 'N' Word is racist slur.

So is the word 'Honkey' (Which he called white people) Only difference is nobody cares because it's against White people.
Saying I want all white people killed is also racist, just lie Hitler.

What has Hitler got to do with this? He was long ago, and he didn't kill just whites, He killed jewish.

I'm fucking sick of it.
It's unfair and the English government is treating these asylum seekers better than their own people. The English People.

I do agree, the foreigners are getting more than us English.

[Korriken]

In America, we call that political correctness. since the white people (us) are more numerous than other races, and that we on average do better than most, we are not the underdog, nay, we are the overlord, the proverbial tyrant that keeps everyone else under our thumb by doing well for ourselves.

they wanna complain that more black people are in jail than white people, well guess what? if you don't commit crimes you dont go to jail! I went outside this morning, and in front of a cop, did not commit a crime! did I get locked up for not commiting a crime? NO! see?

I work at waffle house making $6.82 an hour, and guess what? I PAY MY BILLS! I went to the landlord's house and I paid my rent, did he evict me for paying my rent? NO! see?

I went to work yesterday and I showed up a little early, to make sure the shift change went smoothly, did my boss fire me for showing up on time? NO! see?

if you do what you're supposed to do, and not try to be a "thug" or a "pimp" or a "gangsta" and you don't strap bombs to yourself, things work out better!

I reckon what I've been trying to say is this. Life is a game, and like all games, there are rules, if you play by the rules, the game progresses and you might even wind up a winner, if you break the rules, you could find yourself removed from the game, or the game will not be enjoyable.

and naturally enough, its the government's fault for being oversized pulsating pussies that smell like week old tuna, and not putting their foot down and saying, "you got your fucking equality, what MORE do you want?" and naturally enough, when they say what they REALLY want, and we know what that is, we say, "HELL NO!"

[Monkey-Boy]

At 6/13/07 01:45 PM, Elesaurus wrote: At 6/13/07 01:42 PM, Monkey-Boy wrote
Well, if it's racist, so is the word Brit
Fine, So are you offended by the word 'Brit'? It's just shorter to say than British.

'Paki' is a shorter way to say Pakistani

I do agree, the foreigners are getting more than us English.

Damn straight.

[Elesaurus]

At 6/13/07 01:49 PM, Korriken wrote: In America, we call that political correctness. since the white people (us) are more numerous than other races, and that we on average do better than most, we are not the underdog, nay, we are the overlord, the proverbial tyrant that keeps everyone else under our thumb by doing well for ourselves.

There's more black people in America than England. ( Just saying )

they wanna complain that more black people are in jail than white people, well guess what? if you don't commit crimes you dont go to jail! I went outside this morning, and in front of a cop, did not commit a crime! did I get locked up for not commiting a crime? NO! see?

What's this got to do with the word 'paki'?

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What did any of that have to do with this topic?

[Monkey-Boy]

At 6/13/07 01:49 PM, Korriken wrote: Some stuff

Well said!

[Elesaurus]

At 6/13/07 01:53 PM, Monkey-Boy wrote:

At 6/13/07 01:49 PM, Korriken wrote: Some stuff

Well said!

Yes. And had nothing to do with anything with this thread.
Therefore not relevant.
Also...

I am quite annoyed with the amount of foreigners that come into the country with full benefits >:(

[Korriken]

At 6/13/07 01:57 PM, Elesaurus wrote:
Yes. And had nothing to do with anything with this thread.
Therefore not relevant.
Also...

sure it did, the fact that the paki could call you... let's see... Infidel, Cracker, Whitey (dont ask), ghost, white demon, Jew lover, the list goes on, but if you called him a Paki, there will be hell to pay.

I am quite annoyed with the amount of foreigners that come into the country with full benefits >:(

and now you see what I'm getting at.

[Monkey-Boy]

At 6/13/07 01:57 PM, Elesaurus wrote:

At 6/13/07 01:53 PM, Monkey-Boy wrote:

At 6/13/07 01:49 PM, Korriken wrote: Some stuff

Well said!

Yes. And had nothing to do with anything with this thread.
Therefore not relevant.

But it is.
The title of this topic is 'Racism', meaning any racism.
He is saying people in the U.S think black people are bieng treated unfairly, when they areall equal.

Also...

I am quite annoyed with the amount of foreigners that come into the country with full benefits >:(

Me too, it's disgraceful.
They are getting all the houses.
I have never actually seen a homeless Asian, or any foreign family for that matter, homeless.
But everyday, English people are forced to live in the streets.

[JakeHero]

I blame liberals for reverse descrimination.

[tawc]

Brit isn't ushally used as a racial slur. Paki was used by the national front and skinheads an shit. So it's been made into a racial slur. Also Paki is often used for any south asians or even middle eastern.

[SouthAsian]

In the UK the modern generations see "paki" as an abbreviation.they think its just short for Paki. but several decades ago when my dad was a teenager and he lived in England Paki was used in a derogatory and offensive context.Its like the same with ni$$er.

BTW what goes around comes around.Your country colonised much of the world.You took India and Pakistan as part of your empire.You treated them as second class citisens.Your countrymen came into my lands and massacred the people.
Then when the descendants of the Pakistanis,Indians or people of South Asian descent comes to your country its all of a sudden crowded.

[TheBasics]

I have a bunch of pakistani friends and they don't get offended by the term "paki". In fact I call the pakis all the times they don't get serious about it.

[Kev-o]

We're all fucking people, why won't these fools realize this.

[Karzand]

Are you British offended by the term "limey". I mean it only seems fair if you get to call me Yank. BTW are the French offended by the term "frog", it's better than "cheese eating esurrender monkey".

[Nitroglys]

We give black people that word. not beacuse we have to but beacuse we kinda owe it to them. 400 yrs. eeeeggggg. kinda makes you hot around the colar.

[Tancrisism]

At 6/13/07 11:03 PM, EvilEgg wrote: in America i just don't like how black people can call white people crackers and such... yet white people can't call black people that other word.

KINDA BS!

Yeah, there's a lot of bullshit reverse discrimination going around.

[Draconias]

If used properly, the word "Paki" shouldn't be considered a slur in any sense. If it is used ignorantly (applying it to non-Pakistani people who are just racially similar), incorrectly (full British citizens), for stereotyping (implying that heritage de-values a person), or just plain stupidly, then it is offensive, just as any other similar word would be offensive.

However, even when it is used properly and innocently, there are people who will claim to be offended. Everyone sensible needs to actively fight against these people. These are the true racists in most situations, and you should push off their accusations as effectively as possible: "Wait, you're trying to say that ethnic heritage is so central to who and what a person is that even mentioning it is offensive? I believe ethnicity does not matter in any sense, so perhaps it is you who is being racist here." (for example)

These people hide behind "Political Correctness," but they are really bigots super-sensitized to any mention of the topics about which they are biased. If they were truly unbigoted people, such words would not be offensive because they would be meaningless. The fact that they are "hot button" words for those individuals means that they are biased.

[NordVind]

You can blame this all on political correctness, which I personally think is inhibiting our progress as the human race. Why the hell can't I speak my mind? If your offended and don't like it? Good, take that and shove it up your ass! I'm not against gays, or other groups of people. What really pisses me off is when I have to say African-American, or Asian-American? Some idiot at my school gave me a referral because I called a kid black, and he actually stood up for me, saying that he is black, which I thought was pretty funny because the faculty was raging the entire time. Why am I not called Polish-American? The hyphenated American crap is old, if you are a citizen of the United States, your not African, not Asian, or even European-American, you're an American. Bunch of BS I tell you!

[Alphabit]

At 6/13/07 01:30 PM, Monkey-Boy wrote: I remember this one video on youtube where a black person, supposedly stopping racism, called white people 'Scum of the earth' and called for them to be killed.

That must have been "Mr Pregnant" and he was referring to black people, not whites. Yes, he was being racist towards his own race...

[Alphabit]

At 6/14/07 08:35 AM, Alphabit wrote: That must have been "Mr Pregnant" and he was referring to black people, not whites. Yes, he was being racist towards his own race...

Here's the clip:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WBvPOYgIxcU

[gijfef]

I dunno.
But badgers are racist... i mean jeeze you think extreme right wing idiots are racist... but the badgers... the badgers man!!!!!!!!
They need to tone it down abit

[katana-klan]

At 6/13/07 01:30 PM, Monkey-Boy wrote: I am from the U.K, and this is written about the U.K Etc.

Yeah, that type of thing seems to happen everywhere. That is because the white race decided to wimp out and become pussies. It is leftist white people who feel sorry for themselves who have caused this situation, as if we whites owe everyone else something to this day.

[SteveGuzzi]

How you speak says just as much (if not more) as what words you actually use.

It's the common people who dictate what a word means, not the dictionary. If 'Paki' is used with a demeaning tone to it for oh-so-long then naturally the people will come to identify it as something meant to be offensive.

It's the same way that sarcasm works. You can literally say "Of course I believe you," yet through inflection make it rather obvious you think the person is full of shit.

[Monkey-Boy]

At 6/13/07 05:12 PM, SouthAsian wrote: BTW what goes around comes around.Your country colonised much of the world.You took India and Pakistan as part of your empire.

You treated them as second class citisens.Your countrymen came into my lands and massacred the people.

Then when the descendants of the Pakistanis,Indians or people of South Asian descent comes to your country its all of a sudden crowded.

Why should we have to pay for what some white people did years ago?

It wasn't us.

I didn't go around selling slaves, so I shouldn't have to pay the price.

We are all equal now.

[am-WEE]

i think that you should respect peoples wishes, and if they think you are making racist comments and cease in calling them these abbrieviated or whatever names
the same goes for them, they should treat you with the same respect

have you ever thought about why these asylum seekers fled pakistan...surely they didnt just think 'oh lets move over there, we'll get free houses!'

its not like that were i live, everyones pretty respectful of people
thought i don't live in an extremely multicultural community
it's mainly asians that get payed out here cause they're apparently 'invading' or something

[HomicideJack]

i do believe this whole thread is racist and offensive(even though im white) i still find the "n" word offensive