blam bush

[wicked-dude-dk]

it's voting time soo again.. and "president" bush pretty sure to get elected again!!!:D weee another 4 years with a gun crazy hillbilly in charge. a man that is in the pocket of the american oil companies... gotta love it huh?!

America should know that ur country is a laughing stock to the rest of Europe. A country that try to imrpove democracy in other country while their own "president" cheated his way into the white house.

and when i say "president", i mean 2 things

1. he isen't president. Al Gore won the presidency

2. he's just a puppet, it is the big companies theres oulling the strings to whats gonna happen...

is that how u wan't it?

[Shih]

Busg is president sice he did legally win the presidency not the popular vote but the electoral college and in the end that's what matters. As for him being re-elected, look at the website you're on, a good percentage of the conservatives here dislike Bush.

In short yes, yes Bush Sucks, now wander off somewhere else and annoy them.

[Dewbs789]

presdent Bush suxs, but Al gore is a pussie so either way we lose, so if you hate bush so muc just don't relect him and sop botherin us at the forum.

At 6/3/03 08:47 AM, Shih wrote: Busg is president sice he did legally win the presidency not the popular vote but the electoral college and in the end that's what matters. As for him being re-elected, look at the website you're on, a good percentage of the conservatives here dislike Bush.

He sure as hell did not get legally elected, go read the first chapter of Stupid White Men by Michael Moore. Download it in PDF format on Kazaa if you don't want to buy it.

[wicked-dude-dk]

yea' i read it.. it's really good, MIcheal Moore's a genius

[JGal21189]

I think Bush had done a decent job, not perfect but hey no president has done a perfect job, ever in my opinion. I'm not huge on michael moore, when he went against president bush during the academy awards he really looked like an ass. Anyway, Bush won the election fairly and its a fact that Al Gore was using illigal immigrants to get votes during the election, so saying that Bush won the election by cheating and then saying that Gore should have won it fairly is being a hypocrite. Whatever, we could do worse but we could also do better. I can't vote so my opinion means nothing, however, yours does so if you don't like him, don't vote for him.

[antiqkk]

At 6/5/03 05:20 PM, JGal21189 wrote: I think Bush had done a decent job, not perfect but hey no president has done a perfect job, ever in my opinion. I'm not huge on michael moore, when he went against president bush during the academy awards he really looked like an ass. Anyway, Bush won the election fairly and its a fact that Al Gore was using illigal immigrants to get votes during the election, so saying that Bush won the election by cheating and then saying that Gore should have won it fairly is being a hypocrite. Whatever, we could do worse but we could also do better. I can't vote so my opinion means nothing, however, yours does so if you don't like him, don't vote for him.

Michael Moore didn't look like an ass. He just went and said something you wouldn't have the balls to say. But I'm just being a hypocrite, so I shut up.

[JGal21189]

Michael Moore didn't look like an ass. He just went and said something you wouldn't have the balls to say. But I'm just being a hypocrite, so I shut up.

Michael Moore did look like an ass, getting cut off by music and booed off stage makes you look like a big dumass as far as I am concerned. And about the comment of me not having the balls to say that, I wouldn't say it for 2 reasons,
1. I think going to war was he right choice
2. Going against a war that has already begun is going against America. I'm all for freedom of speech and expression but people should have realized that protesting the war was protesting the U.S.

[JGal21189]

and also, I never said you are a hypoctrite, I'm just saying that people who act like Bush won the election unfairly act like it for two reasons,
1. There is no real proof of that, and people have lost the popular vote and won before.
2.Gore was using illegal votes. Anyway, I never said you are a hypocrite, that's what I'm trying to get across, it's just that I'm tired of people complaining.

[TheShrike]

meh.... this hasn't been done a million times....

BTW, I am anti-bush.

[Jonas]

Wow, no sources for anything, save a book that has more sources. Argue better by finding better info, if you don't want to look like lackluster n00bs, get some credible links, and come back later.

[AbstractVagabond]

At 6/7/03 12:15 AM, JGal21189 wrote: 1. I think going to war was he right choice

Hindsight tells me going to war was wrong and done for greed only.

2. Going against a war that has already begun is going against America. I'm all for freedom of speech and expression but people should have realized that protesting the war was protesting the U.S.

I'm all for the freedom to be contradictive like you are. How can you be for freedom of speech and follow that up by denying people that same freedom? Make sense, dammit.

[torq]

2. Going against a war that has already begun is going against America. I'm all for freedom of speech and expression but people should have realized that protesting the war was protesting the U.S.

What's wrong with going against America? Do I have to agree with everything the country does just because I live here? Fuck America. There I said it. I have the legal right to do so, too.

But on the subject of Bush: He's a propaganda machine. He regularly uses heavily emotional words to incite agreement from people that hear him. Let's see if I can remember history correctly... who else has done that in the past... hmm.. could it be... HITLER?

Not that I'm comparing Bush to Hitler. But you can see that if someone reinforces an idea hard enough and then starts waving the flag around making people think others will hate them for not agreeing with him, this is an illegitimate cause. Bush has a higher agenda to fulfill that you and I have absolutely no knowledge of, but I can promise you one thing. He IS trying to control the world. Look at the way we punish others for not agreeing with us. Every time a country voices opposition to a choice we make we hit them with the sanctions, and a country of starving people who rely on the U.S. for food are not likely to speak out against the American government because of it.

By the way, Michael Moore is a propaganda machine too :)

[JGal21189]

There's nothing wrong with it, I'm just saying, and I am making sense, I'm just stating my argument for why I think Bush is doing a good job, I never told anyone that they can't have an opinion. You guys are putting words in my mouth.

[TheTio]

At 6/7/03 12:15 AM, JGal21189 wrote: 2. Going against a war that has already begun is going against America. I'm all for freedom of speech and expression but people should have realized that protesting the war was protesting the U.S.

This is exactly whats going wrong in america today
You still believe that you have freedom of speech, but really you dont
You have freedom of agreement, you can say whatever you want as long as it supports the popular/government opinion, as soon as you disagree you are an outcast, an ignorant, and most pathetically, unamerican, define american for me please

Im not american, but I would really like to see someone live up to the ideals that so many of you hold yourselves upto, your all petty, greedy, lazy, useless fucks, just like the rest of humanity so get the fuck off your high horses and accept that your all part of the shitpile that is humanity.

Cunts

[wdfcverfgtghm]

I think I'll vote for bush just because I hate weiners who talk about how shitty of a president Bush is when they don't have the slightest clue what they're talking about.

I really hope he isn't re-ellected but I don't know if there are any democrats that I want to vote for.

[FreakishEmu]

Sadly I won't be able to vote this election (2008 here I come!) I don't think that Bush will get elected if the Economy doesnt improve, and the situation in Iraq isn't fixed. Perhaps if he politizes 9-11 enough the masses will shove him in there, or if he starts another war, and is re-elected as a wartime prez. But God, i hope not. Dean and Kerry are my favs.

[karasz]

ok....

saying a war is wrong after the war has started is fine... you are allowed to do it... saying the reasons a country goes to war are wrong and that you disagree is allowed... ok, lets try to keep this in mind...

also, heres a question to everyone... who flew the flag 9-10-01??? nobody... anyone that flies the flag and shows their patriotism because two buildings fell down (cuz nothing at all happened in Somerset, PA or Washington DC... i mean no planes fell there or hit stuff...) is just as bad as the people wanting Bush out of office cuz he didnt win the 'presidency'... ok, read the constitution article 2 section 1- he won live with it...

and to all the people that say they hate bush and want him out of office, give me real reasons... not he's a puppet, or he's too stupid to know whats going on, and every other fucking cliche the morons spit out...

it should also be noted that i am a democrat... and i dislike bush, and just about every damn decision he's made as president ever...

also, gore as president would have done this... attacked afghanistan, not attacked iraq, north korea would never have been a problem, he would have continued the clinton era deal with north korea... although he would have spent more time in afghanistan trying to make it into a democracy, (like bush is doing to iraq)... also the US would be in the kyoto protocol... the economy, would probably be slightly better, but still nothign to write home about...

so in conclusion, give me good reasons as to prove me wrong about anything i said...

[JGal21189]

and to all the people that say they hate bush and want him out of office, give me real reasons... not he's a puppet, or he's too stupid to know whats going on, and every other fucking cliche the morons spit out...

it should also be noted that i am a democrat... and i dislike bush, and just about every damn decision he's made as president ever...

also, gore as president would have done this... attacked afghanistan, not attacked iraq, north korea would never have been a problem, he would have continued the clinton era deal with north korea... although he would have spent more time in afghanistan trying to make it into a democracy, (like bush is doing to iraq)... also the US would be in the kyoto protocol... the economy, would probably be slightly better, but still nothign to write home about...

so in conclusion, give me good reasons as to prove me wrong about anything i said...

Why aren't there more people like this??? This guy basically just summed up everything I feel about the president's situation right now. I don't agree with everything right there but it all makes sense, we just have different opinions. THANK YOU GOD, SOMEONE HAS NOT LOST THEIR MIND!!!!!!!!

[misterx2000]

Bush just plain sux. All he can do is cut taxes and make war.