Why Do Atheists Talk About Religion
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Mez, I won't even bother anymore. Despite all those post, you still haven't answered my orginal question. You just keep finding small things in the posts that is irrelevant and peck on them. I'll take it as if you don't have an answer at all.
At 6/14/07 01:38 PM, Twist-Chao06 wrote: im not atheist, i dont believe in god though. i think if hes real, why doesnt he do anything? i realy dont care about religion. i think we just grew from a Animal or some shit. i havent got a religion
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You aren't an atheist, but you don't believe in God?
Not believing in God MEANS that you are an atheist, it is the freaking definition. >>
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At 6/14/07 02:35 PM, Drakim wrote: Mez, I won't even bother anymore. Despite all those post, you still haven't answered my orginal question. You just keep finding small things in the posts that is irrelevant and peck on them. I'll take it as if you don't have an answer at all.
At 6/14/07 01:38 PM, Twist-Chao06 wrote: im not atheist, i dont believe in god though. i think if hes real, why doesnt he do anything? i realy dont care about religion. i think we just grew from a Animal or some shit. i havent got a religion....
You aren't an atheist, but you don't believe in God?
Not believing in God MEANS that you are an atheist, it is the freaking definition. >>
Atheism and geral monotheistic agnosticism are too different things, [it's mainly the difference between not beleiving in god and rejecting god.
God Fearing helps you in good descision making just as much as a one shot one life health concern does, it is inevitable however, that adherance to a code will in itself break the code through basic human tendencies.
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At 6/14/07 02:35 PM, Drakim wrote: Mez, I won't even bother anymore. Despite all those post, you still haven't answered my orginal question. You just keep finding small things in the posts that is irrelevant and peck on them. I'll take it as if you don't have an answer at all.
It's so damn obvious the way i've been talking to you, and the answer, of course, is a resounding: NO!!!
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Drakim, Your statements imply that it is my earnest Desire for me and about half of my Village [Half Catholic half jewish] To Rape and pillage and destroy.
Unscrupulous politions love to take the mistakes of the few and the mistakes of those who arn't alive to this day to pay for they're crimes; and completely bash innocent adherance to the same dinomination.
"But there are so many christians who do those things" - Possible rebuttle.
Consider that the majority of america's population is cituated in Cities, many of which are located in the North east of the united states. Notice where much of what you prescribe occurs in rural areas.
Also consider that the Average Shmo [and since the majority of america is considered christian] doesn't make it onto the news, most likely because there's nothing interesting or contraversial or tragic or bizzare that occurs in his/her life worth reporting.
"But those people you talk about dont arn't actually christian, they call themselfs christian but they dont beleive in god" - possible rebuttle.
You could say the same thing about the jews; but you wouldn't because that's your asumption, just like it's your asumption that you agree with the quote which i placed above my head. [This is only so if you actually think what i wrote was correct, i'm just predicting things you might use against me, and pre-debating them for you; this way in the event that you dont read what i wrote i can slam this paragraph on the forum for all to see, 100 times. ]
And for the very reason that it's an assumtion completely ruins the basis of the argument, "I am positive enough to state that most chrisitans dont actually beleive in god but i acknowledge that this is only my assumption. Also you might want to know that new york city has some very large churches / cathedrals in it's vicinity; as well as the surrounding areas.
Once more;
Of course there's an elementary rule that Dwelers of densly populated communities veiw individuals better separated from large groups of people to be less advanced then they are [which can often be true] I'm sure you can think of plenty of examples of cultural disgrepancies between urban and rural areas, even in the same governmental entity.
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Let's also discuss my backgrounds:
In my town your either catholic or jewish, The subject of god is often times brought up, and it in itself is discussed in a rather theologic manner. The students in my school have also been taught of the concept of an abortion, which is looked down on as you probably already asume, but is not combined with the concept of Hellfire for those who do end up aborting; We're also given certain contraceptive information, If i wanted to have sex and prevent pregnancy i have the physical means and knowledge to do so; as we have been taught.
Luckilly, i'm not going to [mostly because i dont beleive other people are attracted to me but that's anotehr story; and the other half being that As an advanced placement student, your teachers place high ethical standards on you; not for any religous implications but more along the lines of maturity implications.
Why is this sort of monotheistic setting with a modern veiw constiting of Conservative thinkers like myself and others and liberal thinkers like people i know and others never make it on the news?
Would you find it very interesting if it was reported on the news? and how would it be reported without being considered biased [yes, by you, biased.]?
Sorry, that was an assumption.
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One of my pet peeves is that christians will harass me because I like to hang out with my freinds, 2 of which are atheists and one is a devil worshipper.
read my blog, posta commenrt, and I'll read yours!
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At 6/14/07 01:19 PM, Memorize wrote: Like I say, more people who are more deserving to live, die in car crashes every year. So why should I care about these few people?
Because they're PEOPLE, living, breathing human beings. The fact that you feel happiness at their deaths is disgusting.
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At 6/14/07 03:03 AM, Drakim wrote: or when Christians start using our democracy to express their opinions, THEN we can talk.
They're important figures/concepts in our cultural history....
Think about it.
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So everyone knows, today is the anniversary of "Under God" in the pledge.
By the way, Drakim, Most have stopped trying to debate Memorize a long time ago. He thinks evreyone who dissagrees with him are either commies or the devil. Its actually quite funny
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At 6/14/07 12:46 AM, Memorize wrote:
Can you tell me what sex is for?
Sex is for FUN !!!
with multiple positions for more FUN!!!
And oral & anal & toys for even more FUN.
Plus more than 2 people at the same time for absolutly the MOST FUN !!!!!!!
I have never gone to bed & said 'Honey we need to have sex so that I can impregnate you so that we can have a baby'
There has been 3 times in my life when having "Fun" led to impregnation.
And I have 2 daughters to prove it.
So now you know what sex is for, I hope you have learned something here today.
:)
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At 6/14/07 07:03 PM, morefngdbs wrote:
I have never gone to bed & said 'Honey we need to have sex so that I can impregnate you so that we can have a baby'
And that would be humanities problem. Haha, and you're one of the worthless idiots who contributes to that problem.
Hey, maybe one day you'll join the abortion doctors in their graves.
At 6/14/07 06:55 PM, SlithVampir wrote:
By the way, Drakim, Most have stopped trying to debate Memorize a long time ago. He thinks evreyone who dissagrees with him are either commies or the devil. Its actually quite funny
Really? point to where I said "commie" or "the devil" please.
At 6/14/07 06:27 PM, Dr-Worm wrote:
Because they're PEOPLE, living, breathing human beings. The fact that you feel happiness at their deaths is disgusting.
Saddam was a living, breathing human being too. Should I give a damn about his death?
Abortion is of... questionable legality. The number of abortions is also considered as a problem that should be resolved (in the US at least).
With your job that of an abortion doctor, considering your work, why should I care about your death when all you do is contribute to that problem?
Like I said, people watch tv and see car accidents and feel nothing. And those people are much more deserving to live than the abortion doctors and the people who go there, so why should I feel even the slightest bit of sympathy for their deaths when all that's come from it is making society a little bit better?
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At 6/14/07 03:14 AM, NordVind wrote:
The only thing, as an American, that I feel that is being destroyed because of religion is our secular government and schools. With the schools, all public schools should be secular, as of right now they are, which is good.
Wanna know something funny? The first book they used in school houses was the Bible.
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At 6/14/07 07:14 PM, Memorize wrote: And that would be humanities problem. Haha, and you're one of the worthless idiots who contributes to that problem.
And you, not being humane, don't suffer this problem, no?
Hey, maybe one day you'll join the abortion doctors in their graves.
We all will. Funny thing about life... it ends.
Really? point to where I said "commie" or "the devil" please.
Potayto, potahto.
With your job that of an abortion doctor, considering your work, why should I care about your death when all you do is contribute to that problem?
Maybe because you want to be a decent human being?
Then again, maybe you don't.
Like I said, people watch tv and see car accidents and feel nothing. And those people are much more deserving to live than the abortion doctors and the people who go there, so why should I feel even the slightest bit of sympathy for their deaths when all that's come from it is making society a little bit better?
Except you can't actually say that it does make it better. The "positive" gain of one person doing "evil" being removed from society is far offset by the evil gained by the person doing the removing, the collective horror at his action, and the general fear, loathing, and hatred spread throughout the public.
Nevermind the "good" is completely negated when another doctor just takes his or her place.
Tis better to sit in silence and be presumed a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
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At 6/14/07 07:14 PM, Memorize wrote: Saddam was a living, breathing human being too. Should I give a damn about his death?
When I heard about his death, I said "oh, cool" but I wasn't dancing in the streets. Besides, he killed millions of people. An abortion doctor sucks a growth out of a woman's vagina. A bit different.
Abortion is of... questionable legality.
No, it's just legal.
With your job that of an abortion doctor, considering your work, why should I care about your death when all you do is contribute to that problem?
You have no idea of the circumstances of that doctor, you know nothing else about their life. One can assume that they're not a dangerous criminal, though.
Like I said, people watch tv and see car accidents and feel nothing.
Nothing is better than happy.
And those people are much more deserving to live than the abortion doctors and the people who go there
Who the fuck are you to decide who deserves to live and die?
so why should I feel even the slightest bit of sympathy for their deaths when all that's come from it is making society a little bit better?
That's only according to your twisted version of reality. You should look around and realize that no other person in their right mind thinks like this.
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At 6/14/07 09:08 PM, Ravariel wrote:
And you, not being humane, don't suffer this problem, no?
I have this little thing called "control". Perhaps you've heard of it?
We all will. Funny thing about life... it ends.
Sooner rather than later.
Maybe because you want to be a decent human being?
Nah, too boring.
But you tell me. If society does not feel any sorrow for the victims of a car accident, then why should anyone feel sorry for the deaths of abortion doctors whose job is extremely questionable?
Why should people care about what happens to murderers or rapists?
Except you can't actually say that it does make it better.
Sure I can.
Or at least, it would make it better if people went by logic rather than emotions.
Nevermind the "good" is completely negated when another doctor just takes his or her place.
Oh well. Baby steps.
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At 6/14/07 09:34 PM, Memorize wrote: Or at least, it would make it better if people went by logic rather than emotions.
Unfortunately, we're people, not robots. So deal.
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At 6/14/07 09:34 PM, Memorize wrote: I have this little thing called "control". Perhaps you've heard of it?
Yeah, and you've never ever lost it ever in your life, right? You're just the perfect person to sit up on that throne and say people deserve to die because their control slipped once.
Get over yourself.
But you tell me. If society does not feel any sorrow for the victims of a car accident, then why should anyone feel sorry for the deaths of abortion doctors whose job is extremely questionable?
What society doesn't feel sorrow over victims of car accidents? Certainly not mine.
Why should people care about what happens to murderers or rapists?
Because we have this thing called "compassion". Maybe you've heard of it?
Or at least, it would make it better if people went by logic rather than emotions.
If that were the case than abortions would be completely legal and your whole argument would cease having any validity.
Oh well. Baby steps.
You should do society a favor and make things better by removing yourself from it. All your negativity does is lower the standard of living for everyone around you. Your absence won't be missed, nor will it be mourned (much like those car accident victims), so who cares, right?
Tis better to sit in silence and be presumed a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
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At 6/15/07 12:24 AM, Ravariel wrote: If that were the case than abortions would be completely legal and your whole argument would cease having any validity.
His argument never had any validity.
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At 6/14/07 09:47 PM, Dr-Worm wrote:
Unfortunately, we're people, not robots. So deal.
Still wouldn't hurt if people used their heads for once.
At 6/15/07 12:24 AM, Ravariel wrote:
Yeah, and you've never ever lost it ever in your life, right?
The most i've done is get mad at my siblings for constantly yelling at each other.
But i'm not stupid enough to sleep with the first person I find.
You're just the perfect person to sit up on that throne and say people deserve to die because their control slipped once.
Or even, more than once.
But my slipping up wasn't anywhere near as stupid as their slipping up.
It's simple logic really. Sex can = child. So, if you know this and risk it anyway, and then try and avoid it, you're not worth living. Or "not as" worth living.
Heh, but even then you couldn't deny it. If the world had it my way, then we wouldn't be having these problems.
Kind of like that man spreading aids to any woman he could have sex with. Of course, he was sentenced to life. But when you think about it, who else shares the blame in this? The women of course. Why? Because they decided to have sex with someone they didn't even know. It was partly their fault for not being responsible.
Do I feel sorry for them? Haha, of course not. They got what was coming to them, and deserved every bit for their stupidity, not because of an "accident", but because they went for it despite the risk.
Get over yourself.
Over myself?
I'm not the one who tries to weasle my way out of responsibility when things don't go my way.
What society doesn't feel sorrow over victims of car accidents? Certainly not mine.
Really? When is the last time a huge group of people went in a uproar over a car wreck?
Because we have this thing called "compassion". Maybe you've heard of it?
Compassion? For these disgusting lunatics? Who aren't even worth dirt?
Illogical.
Stupid.
Pointless.
Compassion for those who kill innocents?
If that were the case than abortions would be completely legal and your whole argument would cease having any validity.
Haha. If that were the case, then those unfit to be parents would not be allowed to engage in sexual activity. And then, we wouldn't be in this mess, now would we?
And it were my way, then an unfit parent who are having a child would then have that child stripped from them.
Heh, and logically, we were all fetuses once anyway. Funny how you people will try and use science to justify abortion, yet science has nothing to do with it counting as a person or not. Why? Because even if a pregnant woman isn't passed that "stage" where it becomes a person, if she is killed, it still counts as a double homocide. It has nothing to do with science making it alive. It being considered "alive" is all up to the woman regardless.
Ironic how this very same science said it was alive before 1973. I wonder why it was legalized? Not because it was the "right" thing to do, but because of political pressure brought about during and after the civil rights movement. Much like... not re-entering vietnam when the North broke their agreement and invaded the south.
You should do society a favor and make things better by removing yourself from it.
No. Everyone should be like me, then we wouldn't be having these problems where people like you permit them to exist.
All your negativity does is lower the standard of living for everyone around you.
No. You lowered it yourselves.
Your absence won't be missed, nor will it be mourned (much like those car accident victims), so who cares, right?
Do you expect more? If any one of us died, no one would miss anyone.
Fact is, you're no different from me in that regard.
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At 6/15/07 04:46 AM, SlithVampir wrote:
His argument never had any validity.
Awww, don't feel angry. I mean, i'm not sure how it feels to be so stupid. So i'm unsure how to ease your pain.
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At 6/15/07 05:05 AM, Memorize wrote: The most i've done is get mad at my siblings for constantly yelling at each other.
Sure... I totally believe you.
But i'm not stupid enough to sleep with the first person I find.
Somehow I doubt it's been your decision...
Or even, more than once.
OMG, the HORROR!
But my slipping up wasn't anywhere near as stupid as their slipping up.
Regardless, you slipped up, so you don't deserve to live.
Heh, but even then you couldn't deny it. If the world had it my way, then we wouldn't be having these problems.
You're right... if we had it your way everyone would be dead.
That's so much better.
Do I feel sorry for them? Haha, of course not. They got what was coming to them, and deserved every bit for their stupidity, not because of an "accident", but because they went for it despite the risk.
Don't ever touch another human being, because you could get a deadly infection from them. In fact, why are you on the internet, you could get a computer virus? I mean, if it happens it's your fault because you knew the risk, and if it kills you then you got what you deserved.
I'm not the one who tries to weasle my way out of responsibility when things don't go my way.
Neither am I so I don't know what you're talking about.
Really? When is the last time a huge group of people went in a uproar over a car wreck?
Princess Di, James Dean, Bobby Kennedy (plane, but similar), Sonny Bono (skis but similar), smaller groups for local crashes. It happens EVERY TIME. Just because you're so blinded by your own ego and self-loathing that you don't notice it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Compassion? For these disgusting lunatics? Who aren't even worth dirt?
Even compassion for you. Imagine that.
And it were my way, then an unfit parent who are having a child would then have that child stripped from them.
Except noone would fit your demanding criteria, not even yourself if someone who didn't view you through such rose-colored glasses had anything to say about it.
No. Everyone should be like me, then we wouldn't be having these problems where people like you permit them to exist.
You're right, everyone would be dead. Congratulations, the perfect society.
No. You lowered it yourselves.
Oh come on, don't be shy. You helped tons!
Do you expect more? If any one of us died, no one would miss anyone.
Yep. Noone'll miss you.
Fact is, you're no different from me in that regard.
People will miss me when I'm gone. Guess we aren't so alike after all.
Tis better to sit in silence and be presumed a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
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At 6/15/07 05:58 AM, Ravariel wrote:
Sure... I totally believe you.
Because... you have cameras set up in my house.
Somehow I doubt it's been your decision...
I don't go around trying to pick up on women.
Regardless, you slipped up, so you don't deserve to live.
You'd be an idiot to not realize that their are degrees on those "slipping ups".
Is the slip up on murdering someone just as important as a slip up on forgetting a name?
You're right... if we had it your way everyone would be dead.
No.
Because there are 300 million people in the US. And less than 1 million abortions per year.
So no, not everyone would be dead. Just those who have no sense of responsibility.
That's so much better.
It'd be better than the world you people have created.
Don't ever touch another human being, because you could get a deadly infection from them.
Wow, you've now resorted to piss poor analogies.
Just like last time.
Neither am I so I don't know what you're talking about.
Was that statement directed at you?
Someone forgot their reading glasses.
Princess Di, James Dean, Bobby Kennedy (plane, but similar), Sonny Bono (skis but similar), smaller groups for local crashes. It happens EVERY TIME. Just because you're so blinded by your own ego and self-loathing that you don't notice it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Oh yes, important people. Celebrities. Popular politicians. Who'd have guessed.
You know what i'm talking about. The common man. No one is going to cry over your death or mine.
So, you can quit bullshitting your way around my replies.
Even compassion for you. Imagine that.
Why should their be compassion for me if I screw up that badly?
Except noone would fit your demanding criteria,
Says you.
You're right, everyone would be dead. Congratulations, the perfect society.
Overexaggeration, again.
Why do you do that? Because you've got nothing left.
People will miss me when I'm gone. Guess we aren't so alike after all.
Really? Prove it. Name 100 people who will mourn for your death other than your family.
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At 6/15/07 05:06 AM, Memorize wrote:At 6/15/07 04:46 AM, SlithVampir wrote:His argument never had any validity.Awww, don't feel angry. I mean, i'm not sure how it feels to be so stupid. So i'm unsure how to ease your pain.
Look, you are never going to be taken seriously if you continue to rant like this. You never provide actual argument, you just say "OMG U R AN IDIOT". Which provides nothing productive or any insight into anything.
You might actually have a little bit of brains, let us see them. Post quality, don't post bullshit. Unless it's going to be funny as opposed to obnoxious.
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At 6/10/07 11:26 PM, riffraff120000 wrote: I have now offically converted to the religion of Newgrounds.
yep, its called Newghism.
But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
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At 6/15/07 06:37 PM, Tancrisism wrote:
Look, you are never going to be taken seriously if you continue to rant like this. You never provide actual argument, you just say "OMG U R AN IDIOT". Which provides nothing productive or any insight into anything.
Yeah, i'll do what you do. Read 1 or 2 sentences and completely disregard the rest.
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At 6/15/07 05:05 AM, Memorize wrote: Still wouldn't hurt if people used their heads for once.
There's a huge difference between "using your head" and what you're suggesting.
But i'm not stupid enough to sleep with the first person I find.
Or maybe you just can't get any...
Or even, more than once.
People make mistakes. Many many mistakes, some bigger than others. That's life, and we should deal with it accordingly and realistically.
But my slipping up wasn't anywhere near as stupid as their slipping up.
It's simple logic really. Sex can = child. So, if you know this and risk it anyway, and then try and avoid it, you're not worth living. Or "not as" worth living.
You clearly know nothing about how most of these accidental pregnancies happen. And yet again, you're an insignificant, arrogant prick who has no right to say how "worth living" anyone is.
Heh, but even then you couldn't deny it. If the world had it my way, then we wouldn't be having these problems.
The world can never have it your way. It's impossible, it'll never happen. Ever. So there's no point in trying to argue that people should do this and should do that when we all full well know that they won't, regardless of what some shmuck like you rants. Instead, we should try helping people, instead of demanding that they be perfect.
Kind of like that man spreading aids to any woman he could have sex with. Of course, he was sentenced to life.
When the fuck did this happen? I'm gonna need a little more context to believe this.
But when you think about it, who else shares the blame in this? The women of course. Why? Because they decided to have sex with someone they didn't even know. It was partly their fault for not being responsible.
Did he tell them he had AIDS? Did he even know at the time that he had AIDS? If the answer to just the first question is no, it's not the womens' faults. If the answer to both questions is no, it's not either of their faults.
Do I feel sorry for them? Haha, of course not. They got what was coming to them, and deserved every bit for their stupidity, not because of an "accident", but because they went for it despite the risk.
You are just one sick, angry motherfucker, aren't you? How can you not only not feel sympathy, but feel glad that people are terminally ill?
I'm not the one who tries to weasle my way out of responsibility when things don't go my way.
I'm sure you're just a saint, Memorize, what with how peoples' deaths fill you with glee and all.
Really? When is the last time a huge group of people went in a uproar over a car wreck?
This may be foreign to you, but giant outburst of rage isn't the only emotion people have in response to something bad.
Compassion? For these disgusting lunatics? Who aren't even worth dirt?
You're going on about how happy you are that people are dying, and sitting up there on your high-horse telling everyone that if they're not perfect, they "aren't even worth dirt" and should die. You're the disgusting lunatic.
Illogical.
Stupid.
Pointless.
Yup, you sure are :)
Compassion for those who kill innocents?
Then I guess you have no compassion for WWII veterans who were involved with the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Haha. If that were the case, then those unfit to be parents would not be allowed to engage in sexual activity. And then, we wouldn't be in this mess, now would we?
HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU, COULD YOU, EVER EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN? IF THERE'S NO REALISTIC MEANS FOR YOUR TOTALITARIAN SHITHOLE TO EXIST, YOUR ARGUMENT HAS NO CREDIBILITY!!!!!!!!!!!! (now here comes no rebuttal besides "and if you type in all caps, then your argument has no credibility")
And it were my way, then an unfit parent who are having a child would then have that child stripped from them.
See above. It's in caps, you can't miss it.
It has nothing to do with science making it alive. It being considered "alive" is all up to the woman regardless.
You bet your ass it's up to the woman. And since it's up to the woman, if she says "it's not alive, suck it out, Doc," then so be it.
Much like... not re-entering vietnam when the North broke their agreement and invaded the south.
Man, you really like it when people die, don't you?
No. Everyone should be like me,
I don't even have any words to say. I am utterly speechless. Not a single person in the history of the Politics forum (including Dre-Man) has ever said something this unrealistic, pointless, wrong, and stupid. Just why that is should be blatantly obvious. I may have already said it in caps, but this goes way beyond that.
Do you expect more? If any one of us died, no one would miss anyone.
Not true. In my book, it's really just you and the terrorists.
Fact is, you're no different from me in that regard.
Nope. He isn't an arrogant, ignorant, whiny little bitch. As such, he'll be missed.
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I think the reason is, Athiest see thiests bound to their scripture, which is almost all of the time is only prohibiting them from doing certain things. Athiests, out of the 'kindness of their hearts' offer those out of their 'shackles' because they believe that they would be happier without religion.
It's also a really fun topic to debate, particularly because i am very good at it and the other person has a lot to loose :)
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At 6/15/07 08:20 PM, Memorize wrote:At 6/15/07 06:37 PM, Tancrisism wrote:Look, you are never going to be taken seriously if you continue to rant like this. You never provide actual argument, you just say "OMG U R AN IDIOT". Which provides nothing productive or any insight into anything.Yeah, i'll do what you do. Read 1 or 2 sentences and completely disregard the rest.
I read the whole posts, I just usually omit what I agree with. Perhaps that's not the best idea; I'll keep an eye on it.
If you are referring to my above post, then you are entirely incorrect. We've been reading each others' posts for a while now, and you barely ever actually debate, you merely go, "haha you're an idiot; oh, maybe if you had some brains; shit, i'm jacking off", and so on. Post something either constructive, or slightly funny; otherwise it's just obnoxious like I mentioned. I'm not attacking you, I'd just like to see something other than the monotonous bullshit.
At 6/15/07 09:00 PM, FeargusMcDuff wrote: I think the reason is, Athiest see thiests bound to their scripture, which is almost all of the time is only prohibiting them from doing certain things. Athiests, out of the 'kindness of their hearts' offer those out of their 'shackles' because they believe that they would be happier without religion.
Sure, some do. Most of the time I do only if it deals with something that effects me directly, which it doesn't usually unless it's a Mormon coming up to my door or something like that, which isn't the fault of the majority of the religious folks, or something like people going "atheists suck lol", in which I'd like to provide insight to.
It's also a really fun topic to debate, particularly because i am very good at it and the other person has a lot to loose :)
I know what you mean.
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Pointless.
You have just painted your self-portrait, memorize.
'Don't just do somthing, stand there'.
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At 6/15/07 08:43 PM, Dr-Worm wrote:
There's a huge difference between "using your head" and what you're suggesting.
Using your head = Not engaging in sexual activity with someone you've barely met.
Or maybe you just can't get any...
I'm 17. Why would I want any? And what would make you think that, especially with the way my writing towards the subject is?
People make mistakes. Many many mistakes, some bigger than others. That's life, and we should deal with it accordingly and realistically.
Well, since we're going by your version of "accordingly" and "realistically", it seems to only be getting worse every year.
You clearly know nothing about how most of these accidental pregnancies happen. And yet again, you're an insignificant, arrogant prick who has no right to say how "worth living" anyone is.
Accidental Pregnancies huh?
Oh right. The condumn could break. Taking pre-cautions. Ect ect..
You want to know the 100% gurantee not to have kids? Simple: Do not engage in sexual activity. If you are not ready to have a child, then you should not have sexual intercourse. Because the reality of it is, there is always a chance of a pregnancy.
Letting someone unfit to be a parent to sleep with every person he/she can find and then letting 'her' have an abortion once or more than once, isn't solving a single thing.
The world can never have it your way. It's impossible, it'll never happen. Ever.
There's a difference between how I would run the world and how I think it should be run.
Instead, we should try helping people, instead of demanding that they be perfect.
I refuse to help those who do not help themselves.
When the fuck did this happen? I'm gonna need a little more context to believe this.
Spreading aids = Life Sentence
Did he tell them he had AIDS?
He claims he did.
Did he even know at the time that he had AIDS?
Apparently.
If the answer to just the first question is no, it's not the womens' faults.
It all depends on which woman he was with. There was another man who did the same thing. Only, he didn't have a relationship with a single one of the women he slept with.
So because none of them, in that case, had a relationship, then it is the woman's fault for having sex with someone she didn't or hardly knew.
You are just one sick, angry motherfucker, aren't you? How can you not only not feel sympathy, but feel glad that people are terminally ill?
Angry? No.
Terminally ill? Those people brought upon themselves to be terminally ill.
If a man knows he has aids, engages in a relationship with someone (for more than 2 weeks, at least... c'mon, you have to go more than that), and infects that other with aids, then it is his fault, not the partner's.
But, for example, if a woman has sex with a man after the 1st day she met him and she gets aids because of it, then it is equally her fault. And i'm not going to feel sorry for her.
Of course, women really do have it extremely easy in the Justice system.
I'm sure you're just a saint, Memorize, what with how peoples' deaths fill you with glee and all.
I'm not happy over their deaths. I'm happy for the microscopic advancement to a bette future.
This may be foreign to you, but giant outburst of rage isn't the only emotion people have in response to something bad.
It is also up to a person to control that response.
You're going on about how happy you are that people are dying, and sitting up there on your high-horse telling everyone that if they're not perfect, they "aren't even worth dirt" and should die. You're the disgusting lunatic.
If you say so.
No one is perfect. But things like Murder, rape, child molesting makes that person less of a human being and should therefore be treated as less of a human being.
Yup, you sure are :)
Oh?
A play on words.
Then I guess you have no compassion for WWII veterans who were involved with the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
War is different.
You're doing exactly what the other guy was doing.
You know exactly what i'm talking about. Stop trying to insert irrelevant subjects into it.
HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU, COULD YOU, EVER EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN? IF THERE'S NO REALISTIC MEANS FOR YOUR TOTALITARIAN SHITHOLE TO EXIST, YOUR ARGUMENT HAS NO CREDIBILITY!!!!!!!!!!!! (now here comes no rebuttal besides "and if you type in all caps, then your argument has no credibility")
But was there really a reason to type in all caps?
You bet your ass it's up to the woman. And since it's up to the woman, if she says "it's not alive, suck it out, Doc," then so be it.
So all this other stuff. Like "it can't feel pain", and "it's not aware of its existence" is all thrown out of the window now?
Man, you really like it when people die, don't you?
No.
Though to be honest, if I saw a hardcore enviornmentalist get killed by a tractor because he/she jumped in front of it, i'd say "that's sad", but i'd also feel a slight joy deep inside me.
Just why that is should be blatantly obvious. I may have already said it in caps, but this goes way beyond that.
But are you going to deny that these problems would still exist to this magnitude if everyone were like me?
I mean, there are people a lot better than me, but i'm better than most people in a sense that I believe people should realize what they do and/or did and accept responsibility for it instead of trying to hide from it or make up excuses.
Do I, like Ravarial, judge based upon religion?
Do I, like him, believe someone has to have a certain belief in order to run for any kind of office?
Not true. In my book, it's really just you and the terrorists.
Haha, at least my opinion on the war comes directly from the troops instead of telling them to "piss off" as if their opinions are worthless.
But, am I the one trying to protect insurgents?
Do I complain when a terrorist claims to be tortured?
Do I blame the president for an isolated incident of torture that he had no part of?
The people who do those, are the people I hate.
haha, and they claim to be "supporting the troops".
See, you're still arguing thinking that, if I ever came into power, that this is how I would run the world. No. There's a difference between how I think it should be, and how I would run it.
Why do you think I have this personality? I'd watch on tv and see people desperately trying to defend murderers. People trying to defend rapists and child molestors because they sentences were "too harsh". A baby sitter killed an infant and what was her punishment? "You cannot baby sit in this state again". People protesting the death penalty over a man who's fighting to end his appeals so he CAN be put to death. Female teachers getting off the hook for having sex with an underage male student because "it was male, therefore unhurt, therefore no need for punishment".
Every year people complain that the way we conduct the death penalty is too inhumane. And every time we find an alternative way to do it, the same people still complain even if it causes 0 pain at all.
People more worthy to live than death row inmates die all of time. So why is all of the attention wasted on them?
It's not that you, me or anyone else is really a bad person that I hate and despise. It's that there are people who have the same attitude as you, who sit by and let it happen and even defend them.
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At 6/16/07 12:14 AM, Tancrisism wrote:
I'm not attacking you, I'd just like to see something other than the monotonous bullshit.
Then it wouldn't be as fun to certain people.
If someone wants to debate or argue with me, then they should add in their petty insults while ignoring everything I write. If someone wants to argue with me, then reply to my post and tell me why.
At 6/16/07 12:17 AM, EvilerBowser1001 wrote:
You have just painted your self-portrait, memorize.
'Don't just do somthing, stand there'.
Tell me. How am I illogical?



