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Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 14:10:37 Reply

Just want to know what all of you people out there think about an invasion of Iran?????????

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 14:11:43 Reply

of course it is there sitting on a huge oil field.

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 14:18:50 Reply

So we will invade Iran because they have oil?????????

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 14:20:19 Reply

Why the hell else do you think Bush would be having permanent American bases set up in Iraq, right next door?

Of course they intend to invade Iran. It's just a question of when, and how they justtify it. Liberation for the Iranian people, I suspect. Or maybe payback for their terrorist attack.

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 14:31:34 Reply

At 6/7/07 02:18 PM, GothKid32 wrote: So we will invade Iran because they have oil?????????

no shit sherlock

anyways yes they will because of Iran having oil, having materials to create nuclear arms, and they are supplying weapons to terrorists groups like Hezbollah

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 14:31:43 Reply

You don't like the answers you're getting, that people believe Bush plans to invade Iran for oil? Well then, maybe I'll change my opinion on him just for you.

"Oh, hell no, when he invaded Iraq Bush got all the war out of his system, and he's learnt his lesson about keeping his nose the hell out of other countries' business, he's not gonna do it again."

Is that what you wanted to hear?

Or maybe, you conservative waste of space, you wanted me to say:

"Bush is God's messenger, whether he invades Iran or not, he's doing the right thing!"

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 14:34:10 Reply

I would say its quite likely, although it would be a shame... Iran is the site of many fascinating historical sites from the persians that would be damaged in the event of warfare

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 14:39:39 Reply

ultrabitch you little dumbshit, if we really needed oil that badly, we'd invade Saudi Arabia. The real reason there is possible conflict between us and Iran is because they fund terrorist groups like the insurgents in Iraq and the Hezbollah.

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 14:43:17 Reply

Except that Saudi Arabia would fucking KICK the USA's ass, especially playing on home turf.

Think about how much money oil makes for the USA. Billions of dollars a day. It's well worth starting a war over.

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 14:50:09 Reply

exept that the U.S. millitary rulles the night, our airforce is better equiped, better trained and has long rang milles, their is no possible way S.A. could beat the us in a war

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 14:52:32 Reply

Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire?

Answer: Israel

Question: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes called exporting terrorism)?

Answer: Israel

Question: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East created 762,000 refugees and refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated?

Answer: Israel

Question: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United Nations diplomat assassinated?

Answer: Israel

Question: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship, the USS Liberty, in international waters, killing 34 and wounding 171 American sailors?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard, to steal classified documents and then gave some of them to the Soviet Union?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard, then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the American president grant Pollard a full pardon?

Answer: Israel

Question: What Middle East country allows American Jewish murderers to flee to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to extradite them once in their custody?

Answer: Israel

Question: What Middle East country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine and a memorial for a murderer who killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed in their Mosque.

Answer: Israel

Question: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in the United States, according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of Washington insiders?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a U.N. Refugee Camp in Qana, Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially children?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29 more by U.S. vetoes?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East receives more than one-third of all U.S. aid yet is the 16th richest country in the world?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East receives U.S. weapons for free and then sells the technology to the Republic of China even at the objections of the U.S.?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely insults the American people by having its Prime Minister address the United States Congress and lecturing them like children on why they have no right to reduce foreign aid?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce to his staff not to worry about what the United States says because "We control America?"

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East was cited by Amnesty International for demolishing more than 4000 innocent Palestinian homes as a means of ethnic cleansing.

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East has used a weapon of mass destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center of a highly populated area killing 15 civilians including 9 children?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely kills young Palestinian children for no reason other than throwing stones at armored vehicles, bulldozers, or tanks?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more than 270 new settlements since the signing?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East has assassinated more than 100 political officials of its opponent in the last 2 years while killing hundreds of civilians in the process, including dozens of children?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East regularly violates the Geneva Convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire villages while people are still in their homes?

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East is the United States threatening to attack because of fear that it may be a threat to us and to our allies?

Answer: Iran

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 14:58:31 Reply

Well, the USA doesn't want to fight somebody who can fight back.

Also, the USA has this tendency of wanting to look like they are the good guys in any confrontation. Hell, in WW1 even Germany tried to look like they were the good guys by saying they were invaded first. Something about dressing their dead soldiers in enemy uniforms and planting them.

Or was it Austria that did that?

Either way, nobody picks a war with somebody they think will beat them.

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 15:05:08 Reply

Question: witch country elimenated 600,000 kurds with chemical weapons for wanting independence

Answer: IRAQ

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 15:05:43 Reply

We're invading because we don't like them. We don't like their way of life, we don't like their religion and we don't like their leaders. The neo-cons have always defined America by having an enemy to fight, first the Russians now the arabs. Seriously, when was the last time that Americans were not under the impressions someone was very, very close to killing them and their family?

Apart from when the democrats have been in, of course.

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 15:10:27 Reply

Question: Witch country took 150 americans prisoner for being american

Answer: Iran

Question: what country elimenated 2 to 5 million of their own people to show what they can do

Answer: Cambotia

Qusetion: what country killed their own people for wanting democracy and bilt a 20 foot high statue of liberty to show what thay belivein

Answer: china

and you say we are the bad one, if you hate the country so much than leave, you ont have to be hear

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 15:13:01 Reply

if we wanted to invade them because they are muslim than we would tell everyone in the us that they are not aloud to practice islam in america

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 15:13:14 Reply

At 6/7/07 02:43 PM, ultrabitch wrote: Think about how much money oil makes for the USA. Billions of dollars a day. It's well worth starting a war over.

Compared to how much we've spent on the war in Iraq? I don't think so. I sincerely doubt it's economically viable to spend half a trillion dollars and sacrficie thousands of lives in order to get a couple billion in oil revenues.

We don't do anything in Iran until we absolutely have too, which is kind of sad when you consider that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has pretty much said he'll nuke Israel if he get's the chance...


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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 15:20:14 Reply

yea its a bad plan but hey we have most of our army next door in iraq and afghanistan. thats right check the map theyre sandwitched. unfortunately, that'd lead to a draft and further debt and more military overstretching.

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 15:28:28 Reply

Question: Which country has constantly struggling merely for existance in their pocket of muslim free space in the Middle East and is outnumbered about 17 to 1 by the muslims, thus forcing a need for a slightly unconventional war, being fought in the same way by her enemies?

Answer: Israel

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 15:34:29 Reply

At 6/7/07 02:20 PM, ultrabitch wrote: Why the hell else do you think Bush would be having permanent American bases set up in Iraq, right next door?

Of course they intend to invade Iran. It's just a question of when, and how they justtify it. Liberation for the Iranian people, I suspect. Or maybe payback for their terrorist attack.

THERE ARE BASES BECAUSE WE ARE FIGHTING IN IRAQ RETARD

btw bush is about to be out of office and hed never get congressional approval anyway

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 15:34:52 Reply

which country wants to wipe israel off the map?

Answer: Iran

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 15:36:41 Reply

No so you are saying that Isreal is using terorisum. Its not Isreal its her nabiors that use terorisum.

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 15:40:39 Reply

At 6/7/07 03:20 PM, Tukie wrote: that'd lead to a draft and further debt and more military overstretching.

If they were going to start a draft, they would have done it by now.

President Bush won't enact it because he wants to at least salvage some semblance of character for the Republican Party when they run in 2008, and nobody in the democratically controlled house/senate OR any of the politicians running for the Democratic nominee are going to do try suggesting it for the same reasons...

Enacting the draft after having an all volunteer army for the past 30 some odd years would be political suicide for the politician enacting it, especially with the public opinion polls being the way they are with regards to the war.


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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 15:42:05 Reply

At 6/7/07 03:05 PM, GothKid32 wrote: Question: witch country elimenated 600,000 kurds with chemical weapons for wanting independence

Answer: IRAQ

Question: What is one thing that differs between Israel and Iraq?

Answer: Iraq (which was once supplied with said weapons by America under a CONSERVATIVE president BTW) is now basically defunct while Israel (which has been and is still supplied and supported by America by both LIBERAL and CONSERVATIVE presidents) is still very much alive and is still commiting such acts.

At 6/7/07 03:10 PM, GothKid32 wrote: Question: Witch country took 150 americans prisoner for being american

Answer: Iran

It may have not been considered five-star accomodation, but the hostage treatment of Iran was not nearly as bad as compared to the prisoners and refugees in Israel today.

Also answer this if you can:

Why did Israel feel the need to launch a surprise attack and destroy the USS Liberty - a reconnaissance ship that had no way of defending itself?

Question: what country elimenated 2 to 5 million of their own people to show what they can do

Answer: Cambotia

Qusetion: what country killed their own people for wanting democracy and bilt a 20 foot high statue of liberty to show what thay belivein

Answer: china

What do any of these things have to do with Iran?

and you say we are the bad one,

Nobody's perfect.

if you hate the country so much than leave, you ont have to be hear

The same was probably said to Rachel Corrie - who protested against the foul treatment of Palestinian refugees. She could have just cut and run, but she stayed her course and ended up being deliberately trampled multiple times by and Israeli owned and operated bulldozer.

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 15:44:47 Reply

At 6/7/07 03:36 PM, GothKid32 wrote: No so you are saying that Isreal is using terorisum. Its not Isreal its her nabiors that use terorisum.

like Lebanon and the Hezbollah.

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 16:07:48 Reply

At 6/7/07 02:52 PM, Mathaeus wrote: Question: Why do I feel the need to blast israel at every turn? Oh and btw here is a list I copy pasted...

Fixed for truth.

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 16:09:40 Reply

well at least Israel is more credible than Iran

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 16:12:49 Reply

At 6/7/07 02:31 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:
At 6/7/07 02:18 PM, GothKid32 wrote: So we will invade Iran because they have oil?????????
no shit sherlock

anyways yes they will because of Iran having oil, having materials to create nuclear arms, and they are supplying weapons to terrorists groups like Hezbollah

A country having oil, and the fear of that the reason for going to war is for that oil is no reason to ignore a country as a threat, because you are afraid that that nation, and the individuals in your own country who have pity for them will use that resource as a reverse skapegoat for going to war.

If you adhere to this, you are weak, and people who hate you will take advantage of that weakness and attack you with the physical, and defend themselfs from you with diplomacy combined with your hesitation to take action because you are too soft. This is the "Great Evil law" that makes it more difficult to avoid conflict with an ambitious enemy, if you fight you faught a war people are killed, if you refuse to fight you're nation is destroyed and your culture essentially destroyed.


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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 16:17:44 Reply

At 6/7/07 03:44 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:
At 6/7/07 03:36 PM, GothKid32 wrote: No so you are saying that Isreal is using terorisum. Its not Isreal its her nabiors that use terorisum.
like Lebanon and the Hezbollah.

So blowing up innocent non-combative civilians (most of which are little children) isn't terrorism?

At 6/7/07 03:34 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: which country wants to wipe israel off the map?

Answer: Iran

LOL

At 6/7/07 04:07 PM, uhnoesanoob wrote:
At 6/7/07 02:52 PM, Mathaeus wrote: Question: Why do I feel the need to blast israel at every turn? Oh and btw here is a list I copy pasted...
Fixed for truth.

Ad hominem:

When all else fails.

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Response to Iran invasion posible 2007-06-07 16:25:45 Reply

At the poster above me

i'm not going to argue with you that israelis are out of control, it's imminent that any website expressing a political point is going to have a bias, and pictures can be usefull in expressing a bias better than words.

What many consider israel is doing is not at all unusual, if your angry at an aspect of a nation you dont attack the aspect, you attack the peasants, here's a nice example:

- England becomes prodestant, Ireland is catholic, english dont like the catholics because of the catholic church's corruption with the payment of fee's to releive of sins, to express this anger they attack the pope and the catholic church.... LOL no they dont, they kill catholic peasants, because it's easier, and more hurtfull.

The result?

Human's become sheilds for the true human villans, and people get angry at one another.


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