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Forum Topic: Weed: Good? Or Bad?

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At 6/4/07 12:23 PM, Azurith wrote: In my opinion, good.

in fact bad

If you know your limits, you can have fun with it.

still no excuse

It's not addictive, so you're fine there.

thats what the potheads want you to think

But if you smoke it all the time, it's expensive, and you wind up doing nothing all day.

true, but it is expensive either way.


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At 6/4/07 01:30 PM, lolomfgisuck wrote:
Lazy and stupid sounds like "Worthless" to me. I mean, pot heads are so stupid they didn't even argue the most damaging point I made about the negative effects of weed. I had to point out your own flaws to you and even then you can't come up with a response. Instead, you ask me to answer the question for you... I think that constitutes as both lazy and stupid if you ask me.

my friend smokes pot all the time and he is a state champion wrestler and had a H.S. gpa of about4.7.


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At 6/4/07 05:04 PM, lolomfgisuck wrote:
There's always an exception.

well you just sit around, lots of weed smokers dont play games, the majority arent addicts

What? Say what you want but marijuana makes you hungry and lazy...

not really, you can be 'tricked' into believing this, maybe because of 'propaganda' it represses hunger/pain which is how you can eat like a dog, or you can choose not to eat at all.. or you can be hungry and not eat because it gets rid of the hunger pains.. and for being lazy its not true, when i smoke i was able to run for miles and miles, but ive injured my legs too much to care effectivly


we smoke because work sucks and we'd rather be watching TV.

it can cure boredom like work.. lol.. i dont watch television

Educate yourself or stay out of topics like this... you only hurt the cause.

stereotyping is fun, the only pot smokers i dont like are the ones that do evil things like steal cars, but at least theyre not junkies looking for money

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At 6/4/07 12:21 PM, XXvileXX wrote: Just want evryones say, is it good or bad?

Bad.

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Yeah, I smoke weed. Have I ever thought badly of it? Hell no! Weed is awesome. It only destroys your ambition and IQ if you let it. The same goes for all the "gateway to other drugs" crap.

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It's not good for you of course, but most people disregard that. I've never done it, and I don't plan to.

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At 6/4/07 01:55 PM, Earfetish wrote:
At 6/4/07 01:47 PM, IrishLaddie wrote:
At 6/4/07 01:35 PM, Earfetish wrote:
At 6/4/07 12:51 PM, lolomfgisuck wrote:
Drugs destroy the mental stability of your mind. Video games just dull your concentration, but they can widen your level of creativity.
Drugs do not 'destroy' your mind, especially not cannabis; there are no peer-reviewed studies that say cannabis has any notable permanent long-term effects on the functioning of your brain.

Video games do not make you more creative, but weed does, and I bet so many people on this board spend all their time playing video games and wasting their time in a quiet nerdy way - if there's a sadder way to spend a day than doing drugs by yourself, it's playing computer games by yourself.

Also, spending all your time at the PC isn't going to do much for your social skills.

You MUST be on crack, I'm not talking about cannabis. Weed makes you see and hear things that aren't there. weed doensn't make you creative, it just destroys your brain (YES IT DOES) and makes you act like a deranges lunatic.

People on weed have been known to jump off buildings, believing that they can fly... then the die.

And your post count is about 130x mine, you spend WAY too much time on the PC yourself.


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It's not good for you of course, but most people disregard that

whats not good, be exact.. smoking?
one reason could be rapid heart beat, which makes you lose weight

id say most of the smokers and everyone who uses these forums are bright people.. the rest are just ignorant kids

You MUST be on crack, I'm not talking about cannabis. Weed makes you see and hear things that aren't there. weed doensn't make you creative, it just destroys your brain (YES IT DOES) and makes you act like a deranges lunatic.

1. cannabis is weed
2. you dont 'see things and hear things'
3. it can boost your creativity, its all around drug.. depends on how you feel

People on weed have been known to jump off buildings, believing that they can fly... then the die.

that is an LSD myth 2 and 3 can apply to lsd

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At 6/4/07 05:27 PM, IrishLaddie wrote:
You MUST be on crack, I'm not talking about cannabis. Weed makes you see and hear things that aren't there. weed doensn't make you creative, it just destroys your brain (YES IT DOES) and makes you act like a deranges lunatic.

Perhaps if you're taking your facts from the 1920's, when the legislators were coming up with such wonderful gems as "A man under the influence of marihuana actually decapitated his best friend; and then, coming out of the effects of the drug, was as horrified as anyone over what he had done. Then we have the case of a young boy in Florida. The story runs as follows: A young boy who had become addicted to smoking marihuana cigarettes, in a fit of frenzy because, as he stated while still under the marihuana influence, a number of people were trying to cut off his arms and legs, seized an axe and killed his father, mother, two brothers and a sister, wiping out the entire family except himself."

Of course it was found out later that he made it up, and that it's in no way consistent with the actual effects of the drug. Now we've gone more with the "There are better things to do" route, and I challenge you to come up with ONE credible source that says marijuana destroys your brain. Writing that it does in capital letters isn't good enough.

People on weed have been known to jump off buildings, believing that they can fly... then the die.

That story is generally attributed to someone ingesting a large amount of LSD, but the drugs are obviously so similar that I can understand why you would get the two mixed up.

Suddenly I find that all those negative thoughts creeping around in the back of my head have been shot to the front in a blaze of unwelcomed glory.

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At 6/4/07 05:18 PM, unowned wrote: it can cure boredom like work.. lol.. i dont watch television

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. This has about the same merrit as someone trying to argue the positives of alchohol by saying

"Drinking makes driving more fun lol".

Be quiet, you're hurting the cause.

Marijuana is a good drug. It's far less dangerous the other more popular intoxicants that are legalized like your average perscription medicine and alchohol. In all the studies ever done none have ever proved that there are any long term side effects of smoking marijuana other then the affects smoking has on your lungs... which can easily be avoided by eating or drinking the marijuana through common methods like brownies or herbal-tea. Water pipes and glass peices also help filter the "bad" chemicals out of the smoke which can futher help the safety of smoking the drug in question.

Long time pot smokers show a decrease in short term memory but most effects are very mild and the most savere effects occure doing the process of being high. Most users regained their ability to remember after they stoped using the drug for some time. All studies that indicate that the drug kills brain cells have been proven false. Such claims came from the Sixties and early seventies and the most common used experiment was one done on a recess monkey. The findings of "Marijuana killing brain cells" have never been duplicated sense and it's been proven that those results where fasefied for whatever reasons. (You'll notice you don't see that "This is your brain on drugs" commercial anymore...)

Marijuana has no physical long term side effects that would effect the way one acts in daily life. There is no scientific link to link the abuse of marijuana to lazyness or a general lack of motovation outside the inital effects of being high. Such claims are little more the unjustified sterotypes coming from those who have watched people in the process of being high and an example of a few wortheless nobodies being placed in the lime-light in order to help fortify the anti-drug movement... it's little more then a marketing effect and a biast untrue sterotype.

Marijuana is not a gateway drug... well, nor more so then any other substance on the planet. Doing one thing does not automatically mean that you want to do something else. Lots of people, in fact most people, smoke pot regularly and never touch any other drugs... myself included. Marijuana does not have any effects on the brain that make you automatically want to do cocaine. People that do cocaine will probably smoke marijuana as well but not because marijuana made them do coke, but because their generally drug abusing people with addictive personalities that enjoy being high. Saying Marijuana is a gateway drug is like saying soda is a gateway to alchoholism. Although everybody that drinks alchohol probably drinks some form of soda... it doesn't mean the two are related in any real physical way.

Marijuana is safer then alchohol. It's users are more aware of their state and more likely to make the correct decesions when it comes to important factors in life... like driving. You always here drunks saying "I'm not drunk" seconds before driving their car into a wall. You rarely hear a marijuana user utter the words "I'm not high". Users are fully aware of their state and can compensate for their lack of motor skills. Like all intoxicants it should be used correctly and most "Legalize Pot" supporters agree that driving while under the influence is, and always should remain a crime. But, when it does happen, it's been proven that people driving under the effects of marijuana drive much better and safer then those under the effects of alchohol. Very few pot related traffic incidents are recorded... most of them are minor and usually invovle a mixture of marijuana and some other substance (Cocaine, alchohol, etc...)

Alchohol, on the other hand, does kill brain cells. it also effects your motor abilities and destroys your liver. It's long term effects are worse on the body and there is no safe way to enjoy the substance without damaging yourself. On top of that, alchohol is responsible for many deaths... nobody has ever died from smoking pot.

From a personal experiance, marijuana works wonders. I suffer from anxiety and all the Xanax in the world couldn't stop me from freaking out... not without mass usage and the risk of an unwanted addiction. Marijuana, on the other hand, cures all of my worry problems (believe it or not) without any serious risk of injury and no risk of addiction. It's been known to ease the pain of people suffering, increase hunger, and allow those that are having trouble resting sleep. In some cases, it's even been suposably reported toa ctually help battle cancer instead of causing it. It's medical uses are inarguable and so usefull that even though marijuana is against federal law, many states have legalized the use of medicinal marijuana anyways.

Besides that, it's a Victemless crime. The amount of time and spent on anti-drug patrols and marijuana arrestes could have bough the schools new books, desks, and funded a new field trip. It could feed the hungry or fix local roadways. The man power could be better spent stoping real crimes like rape and muggins, and the jails would be less crowded wich would reduce the cost on the average tax payer and free up room to hopefuly help in the rehibilitation of prisoners like jail is suppose to... instead of just being a crowded zoo for drug users.

Like all things, marijuana should be used intelligently. I'm not suggesting anyone go out and try it without first doing their own research and it's probably best to wait until you're done with puberty to insure the side effects marijuana does have doesn't effect growth. But this is no diffrent the anything else (lifting weights, drinking beer, etc..).

Also... I've had plenty of drunk nights and I've had plenty of "so stoned I can't talk" nights. I'll tell you this, I've never woken up the day after smoking massive amounts of pot and had to call my friends and ask what I did, why I have scrapes/bruses or had to apologize for anything I did. The same can't be said for alchohol.

When it comes down to it, marijuana is much safer and a much more enjoyable experiance for everybody then drinking. yet drinking is still legal and weed is a crime... go figure.

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bad cause it will make a hole bunch of people get addicted and make them do stupid stuff


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1. cannabis is weed
2. you dont 'see things and hear things'
3. it can boost your creativity, its all around drug.. depends on how you feel
People on weed have been known to jump off buildings, believing that they can fly... then the die.
that is an LSD myth 2 and 3 can apply to lsd

No, cannabis is a certain TYPE of weed, it's less harmful.
And just because you can say, "LAWL THERES A PINK ELEPHANT ON MAH HEAD" when you're doped up doesn't mean you're creative.
And yes, weed DOES make you see and hear things. There is a REASON it's outlawed, and there's a REASON that scientists and doctors alike both state that weed is bad for you.


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At 6/4/07 05:49 PM, lolomfgisuck wrote:

i dont work, just an example


"Drinking makes driving more fun lol".

who says that

Also... I've had plenty of drunk nights and I've had plenty of "so stoned I can't talk" nights.

i dont drink, it can help anxiety for moderate users, which explains 'why you cant talk'

make up your mind

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"Sigh"...

I'm smarter than anyone else here, apparently.

And since Newgrounds is a bandwagon for potheads, there is no way I have the time, patience, or knuckle strength to fight off a flame war. If you do drugs, of course I can't convince you that they're bad. Go talk to your doctor, ask if doing weed is safe.


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At 6/4/07 05:53 PM, IrishLaddie wrote:
No, cannabis is a certain TYPE of weed, it's less harmful.

In the same sense that dandelions are a type of weed?

And just because you can say, "LAWL THERES A PINK ELEPHANT ON MAH HEAD" when you're doped up doesn't mean you're creative.
And yes, weed DOES make you see and hear things. There is a REASON it's outlawed, and there's a REASON that scientists and doctors alike both state that weed is bad for you.

Anti-drug people are fun.

Suddenly I find that all those negative thoughts creeping around in the back of my head have been shot to the front in a blaze of unwelcomed glory.

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Anybody who says yes weed is good is full of it there is bad weed i have had bad weed that did not even work.It all depends on the weed some weed is horrible and some is good.

Does that mean im going to say weed is good no but is it bad hell know.It all depends on were you get it from.

People who say its a gate way drug thats a lie usally people stop at weed and the ones that go further are the only ones you ever hear about.Because there always on cops or in jail.

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At 6/4/07 05:09 PM, Rabid-Echidna wrote: The only drugs that are truly noteworthy to me are the powerful hallucinogens, due to their ability to give you a front row seat to what you're really made of.

I'd agree here but the only hallucinogens I've consumed are Mushrooms and DXM.

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It's not bad or good it's just their if you want to smoke it smoke that shit if not don't It's just how or government says it's bad that makes everyone freak out. It's no worse than fucking cigs.

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i think its bad. sure it gets you high and you get that *slightly* fun feel from it, its just not worth the risk of getting caught with it.

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At 6/4/07 05:53 PM, IrishLaddie wrote:
No, cannabis is a certain TYPE of weed, it's less harmful.

weed in the sense of plants.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis

And just because you can say, "LAWL THERES A PINK ELEPHANT ON MAH HEAD" when you're doped up doesn't mean you're creative.

you dont see elephants, creative is when your creative thoughts flow out easily

And yes, weed DOES make you see and hear things.

ive done a lot and this has never happened, you are such a troll

maybe if you take a very large dose

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Government conspiracies don't exist in such a way. What do you do at night, huddle to yourself and link disappearances with alien invasions? Governments DO cover up certain things, but they wouldn't make a popular drug illegal "Just for the hell of it"


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Depends how you think of it
good if you wanna chill out got lots of stress
eg cat got ran over, girlfriend dumped you, mom got raped by your brother
Bad if your so bothered about your health, but too much is too much i guess
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Yes.

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Speed, weed and birth control.
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At 6/4/07 12:27 PM, Keizer wrote:
At 6/4/07 12:25 PM, lolomfgisuck wrote: Bad. It kills brain cells, gives you cancer, makes you worthless, and leads to the abuse of other drugs like cocaine and heroine.
Wrong it does have some of the same cancer causing chemicals in ciggeretts but have you ever heard of anyone getting cancer from pot? No, and as for leading you to other drugs thats not true. I have friends that have been smoking bot for years and this still hasent happend.

no, marijuana does cause cancer. And don't say it's healthy for you, you're lighting something on fire and inhaling the smoke. It's going to affect your lungs no matter what you're smoking. It'll still cause respiratory problems. Even if you smoke a god damned slim jim, it'll cause respratory problems. Plus, how old are your friends who smoke pot? I ask because it takes several years for someone to get cancer from smoking. It takes like 30-40 years of smoking ciggarettes for someone to get cancer. So I assume if someone smokes pot for a long enough time that he or she will get cancer.

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At 6/4/07 12:25 PM, lolomfgisuck wrote: Bad. It kills brain cells, gives you cancer, makes you worthless, and leads to the abuse of other drugs like cocaine and heroine.

I noticed in you profile you like pantera and slayer. Im guessing you do a lot of headbanging, headbanging kills lots more brain cells that weed does.


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From a biological view it`s bad, but so is chocolate and any other "good shit" in big amounts.

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At 6/4/07 06:05 PM, fire-weasel wrote:
So I assume if someone smokes pot for a long enough time that he or she will get cancer.

You'd think so, but you would be wrong. The fact that there isn't a single recorded incident of someone getting cancer from smoking pot kind of shoots down your theory.

Suddenly I find that all those negative thoughts creeping around in the back of my head have been shot to the front in a blaze of unwelcomed glory.

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At 6/4/07 06:01 PM, IrishLaddie wrote: Government conspiracies don't exist in such a way. What do you do at night, huddle to yourself and link disappearances with alien invasions? Governments DO cover up certain things, but they wouldn't make a popular drug illegal "Just for the hell of it"

Your a fucking liar. The only reason they fucking made pot illegal is because they don't know how to fucking tax the shit and set it up right. They would have to many people selling it illegally to profit from it.

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At 6/4/07 06:07 PM, Rabid-Echidna wrote:
At 6/4/07 06:05 PM, fire-weasel wrote:
So I assume if someone smokes pot for a long enough time that he or she will get cancer.
You'd think so, but you would be wrong. The fact that there isn't a single recorded incident of someone getting cancer from smoking pot kind of shoots down your theory.

yes but they will die, if not cancer...then a fucked up respiratory system.

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