What I hate about America.

[slackerzac]

Before you start typing your " if you dont love America get out" messages here me out. I'm an American, and I think the U.S. is the best country in the world. But I do think we stick our noses into other countries bussiness to much. Ya know why? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO! You see Uncle Sam weilds a double edge sword. If we dont get involved in other peoples problems we get yelled at by the rest of the world. For example the massacures that have happened in the Sudan. Refugges said "why didnt the western world and the U.S help us"? America has tons of its own problems and we're so busy trying to help the rest of the world we cant concentrate enough time on our own problems and those problems keep piling up. So what I'm trying to say is that if the U.S. gets involved with another nations problem we get yelled at by the rest of world. And if we dont get involved we get yelled at by the rest of the world because being such a powerful nation we are it seems like we should lend a helping hand but if we do we yelled at but if we do nothing we get yelled at? So people of newgrounds please post an idea of what we should do so we can try harder next time, because frankley I've have no idea what we should do

[uhnoesanoob]

Is it a extremist holiday today?

[JakeHero]

Nonamerican asshole: "You fucking americans are imperialists. You shouldn't of invaded Iraq! Don't stick your nose in other people's business!"

two years later

Same nonamerican asshole: "You fucking americans only care about yourselves! You should help Darfur!"

[slackerzac]

At 6/1/07 08:17 PM, uhnoesanoob wrote: Is it a extremist holiday today?

Dude I'm not an extremist, I'm just some average joe trying to make it through life. And I'm just posting a thought and asking for suggestions, thats all.

[Brick-top]

Yes, America does stick it's nose in. However the yelling is hypothetical. Besides you say America does stick its nose in, people will expect a reaction.

[slackerzac]

At 6/1/07 08:34 PM, Brick-top wrote: Yes, America does stick it's nose in. However the yelling is hypothetical. Besides you say America does stick its nose in, people will expect a reaction.

Exactly we stick our nose in we get yelled at. And if we dont we get yelled at. So what do we do?

[HammerOdawn]

It's true everyone looks toward us to solve their problems...

[FeargusMcDuff]

Wall of text much?

[slackerzac]

At 6/1/07 09:29 PM, FeargusMcDuff wrote: Wall of text much?

There have been longer ones on the forums dude.

[CapitalistSocialist]

Look throughout history the most dominant country at the time is usually the most hated one.

You can't please everybody and ultimately said country will always look after themselves above all other countries hence the hatred from smaller less influential countries who would rather be getting their own way. I.e. being able to look after their own self interest.

Might makes Right.

[slackerzac]

Okay I can agree with that.

[slackerzac]

At 6/1/07 10:22 PM, Tal-con wrote:

At 6/1/07 08:17 PM, uhnoesanoob wrote: Is it a extremist holiday today?

He's not extremist at all, he makes a lot of sense.

Thank you.

[TheSovereign]

If you don't like it, get the fuck out!

[troubles1]

At 6/1/07 08:25 PM, slackerzac wrote:

At 6/1/07 08:17 PM, uhnoesanoob wrote: Is it a extremist holiday today?

Dude I'm not an extremist, I'm just some average joe trying to make it through life. And I'm just posting a thought and asking for suggestions, thats all.

Yes you are ,here is a suggestion, stop being the problem, and start being the solution.

[slackerzac]

At 6/2/07 12:02 AM, troubles1 wrote:
Yes you are ,here is a suggestion, stop being the problem, and start being the solution.

Obviously you didnt read the whole paragraph. I am merely asking for ideas for the solution.

[Britkid]

At 6/1/07 08:20 PM, JakeHero wrote: Nonamerican asshole: "You fucking americans are imperialists. You shouldn't of invaded Iraq! Don't stick your nose in other people's business!"

two years later

Same nonamerican asshole: "You fucking americans only care about yourselves! You should help Darfur!"

More like:

Sane person from any country in 2003:

Why are you invading Iraq? You should be helping Darfur.

[Brick-top]

At 6/1/07 08:44 PM, slackerzac wrote:

At 6/1/07 08:34 PM, Brick-top wrote: Yes, America does stick it's nose in. However the yelling is hypothetical. Besides you say America does stick its nose in, people will expect a reaction.

Exactly we stick our nose in we get yelled at. And if we dont we get yelled at. So what do we do?

I don't know say an invasion was for oil instead? which makes more sense.

[Tri-Nitro-Toluene]

American foreign policy is hypocritical. That's what I object to.

If you wanna go all out and change the world, then fine. If you want to ignore the rest of the world to the best of your abilities, then that too is fine, but trying to do both is what gets people annoyed at you.

[K-RadPie]

At 6/2/07 07:43 AM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: stuff

Dude, you can't appease EVERYONE. Its not like the rest of the world is always thinking the exact same thing at any given time, some should be helped, and some should be ignored.

[Jon-86]

Pick one or the other.

You say if you dont help you get yelled at.
So....? Why should you care, its not as if you need to do anything.

So do nothing concentrate on your own problems and ignore everything else.

But ofcourse the reason the US dose help other conteries is so it can make friends.
And in return your friends help you. Well sometimes.

A dont know were all knida stuck with messing with other peoples business because everyones a nosy shit and cant help theirself.

[HighlyIllogical]

It's not a question of interfere or don't interfere. The question is how, what, why etc.

It's all based on the situation...

[AapoJoki]

At 6/1/07 08:20 PM, JakeHero wrote: Nonamerican asshole: "You fucking americans are imperialists. You shouldn't of invaded Iraq! Don't stick your nose in other people's business!"

two years later

Same nonamerican asshole: "You fucking americans only care about yourselves! You should help Darfur!"

That is because the non-American asshole is smart enough to make the difference between the two. The situation in Darfur was an acute humanitarian crisis that needed quick involvement, whereas Iraq, while being ruled by a ruthless dictator, had no similar urgency, and the hasty involvement only stirred up violence and chaos.

[HighlyIllogical]

Not to say that I'm a fan of the war, but, come on, when Powell spoke in front of the UN, everyone was rip-roarin' to go.

[LaurenAwesome]

Everyone on this flippin earth is a hypocrite. People bitch about us giving help when no one asks for it and they bitch when they want help and we don't give it to them cause they all told us(the US) not to help. People just like to have something to bitch about, that's all. No one can make up their flippin mind so we all fight all the time.

[JakeHero]

At 6/2/07 10:12 AM, AapoJoki wrote: That is because the non-American asshole is smart enough to make the difference between the two. The situation in Darfur was an acute humanitarian crisis that needed quick involvement, whereas Iraq, while being ruled by a ruthless dictator, had no similar urgency, and the hasty involvement only stirred up violence and chaos.

Oh right, because the genocide of 450k kurds in Kurdistan(what they call the northern) region is somehow anymore urgent than the genocide of the same number in Darfur. I guess you can tell all those guys in Iraq to quit faking it, they weren't gased.

[animehater]

I say the rest of the world should just shut the fuck up and leavethe U.S to it's own affairs for it is none of your concern.

[loobu]

duuuuuuude see this is why i hate politics lol theirs never anything you can do about it and sence everyone has an opinion you can never win in a conversation...there's always so many people one way and the other... personaly though i think the was went a bit to far :) and i agree you cant please everyone BUT messing around(even if you think its for the better) in other countries is gona make people get more mad at you then if you dont.

[Tri-Nitro-Toluene]

At 6/2/07 08:21 AM, K-RadPie wrote: Dude, you can't appease EVERYONE. Its not like the rest of the world is always thinking the exact same thing at any given time, some should be helped, and some should be ignored.

True you can't appease everyone, but that doesn't mean that I can't see it as hypocritical when the worlds only super power is happy to get involved in Iraq on very dubious evidence, but then refuses to do anything about situations that can and do need urgent attention, such as Darfur for example.

At 6/2/07 03:17 PM, JakeHero wrote: Oh right, because the genocide of 450k kurds in Kurdistan(what they call the northern) region is somehow anymore urgent than the genocide of the same number in Darfur. I guess you can tell all those guys in Iraq to quit faking it, they weren't gased.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't that occur in 1980's?

The situation in Iraq as of the 21st century is in no way comparable to Darfur. So yes, if this were the 1980's that would be a valid argument, however times change, the first gulf war happened, WMD's and chemical weapons in Saddam's control were destroyed or got rid of, so Darfur was the much more urgent case at the time of the Iraq Invasion.

That's why people complain. 'Cause the US decided a course of action that wasn't dealing with the urgent problem. Iraq needed to be sorted out, but it should have been pretty low on the 'to do list' if you're talking about humanitarian aid.

[AapoJoki]

At 6/2/07 03:17 PM, JakeHero wrote: Oh right, because the genocide of 450k kurds in Kurdistan(what they call the northern) region is somehow anymore urgent than the genocide of the same number in Darfur.

That genocide was urgent in the 80's, why didn't you invade Iraq then? Oh that's right, Reagan and Hussein were allies then.

[Memorize]

At 6/2/07 04:16 PM, AapoJoki wrote:

That genocide was urgent in the 80's, why didn't you invade Iraq then? Oh that's right, Reagan and Hussein were allies then.

Psh, you're just using excuses because you realize the error of your hypocricy.