Be a Supporter!

Gay bar wins right to ban Straights

  • 2,070 Views
  • 104 Replies
New Topic Respond to this Topic
Ihatechavs
Ihatechavs
  • Member since: May. 22, 2007
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 02
Blank Slate
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-04 16:07:28 Reply

why would straight people go to gay bars?

Dont they know what happens at gay bars?

Tony-DarkGrave
Tony-DarkGrave
  • Member since: Jul. 15, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 44
Programmer
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-07 14:03:52 Reply

At 6/4/07 04:07 PM, Ihatechavs wrote: why would straight people go to gay bars?

Dont they know what happens at gay bars?

yes who knows if there hitting on a transvestite.

gijfef
gijfef
  • Member since: Apr. 5, 2007
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 06
Blank Slate
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-07 14:44:55 Reply

and why would straight guys want to go to a gay bar anyways
its just stupid realy

although i do agree that straight ladies watching gays mite b harsh i wouldnt know tho lol

Tony-DarkGrave
Tony-DarkGrave
  • Member since: Jul. 15, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 44
Programmer
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-07 15:56:07 Reply

At 6/7/07 02:44 PM, gijfef wrote: and why would straight guys want to go to a gay bar anyways
its just stupid realy

what about if they didnt know they walked into a gaybar.

SmilezRoyale
SmilezRoyale
  • Member since: Oct. 21, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 03
Blank Slate
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-07 16:03:24 Reply

Essentially this is an argument over whether or not a private buisness has the right to refuse service if the refusal is based off of prejudicial matters [as opposed to the all too common "No shirt, no shoes, no service" which of COURSE is understandable.

Being a libertarian, [or 50% socially permissive] i beleive it is fair that they can do this as long as it can be done in any way shape or form, so if it can be done because a person is straight, it can be done for the following reasons:

- homosexual
- man or woman
- black white latino asian etc.
- christian, jew, muslim, buddhist etc.
- Age
- Other

There are obviously things here that would if used in the same situation [you cant come in because your black] would bring up other issues that were adressed in supreme court cases, [Banning of segregation]

if in the case that people cant handle the rejection of racial, sexual, or other social dinomination's and the acceptance of others in private buisnesses then i'm afraid that we have to hold the standard to everyone.

It percludes me however, why a straight person would want to go to a gay bar, since the concept of a bar is to socialize with your attractor factor.


On a moving train there are no centrists, only radicals and reactionaries.

HighlyIllogical
HighlyIllogical
  • Member since: Dec. 9, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 21
Blank Slate
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-07 16:27:59 Reply

The 1964 Civil Rights Act doesn't ban discrimination in places of public accomodation on the basis of sexual orientation, but it does in terms of religion, ethnicity etc.

Dr-Worm
Dr-Worm
  • Member since: Apr. 26, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 08
Movie Buff
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-07 16:44:55 Reply

At 6/7/07 04:03 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: It percludes me however, why a straight person would want to go to a gay bar, since the concept of a bar is to socialize with your attractor factor.

Yeah, I have no idea either, but the focus here is that this is fine but if it were the other way around, it would be considered discriminatory and horrible.


NG Cinema Club Movie of the Week: If... (Anderson, 1968, UK) | Letterboxd | Last.fm

BBS Signature
SmilezRoyale
SmilezRoyale
  • Member since: Oct. 21, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 03
Blank Slate
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-07 17:03:12 Reply

At 6/7/07 04:27 PM, HighlyIllogical wrote: The 1964 Civil Rights Act doesn't ban discrimination in places of public accomodation on the basis of sexual orientation, but it does in terms of religion, ethnicity etc.

They might ad an addendum to that act in the future.

And never the less, a legal expert may use laws against segregation as a basis of argument against what the people in this article did should something like this every reach the supreme court. [or other court if this was in the united states, i read the article awhile ago so i forgot]


On a moving train there are no centrists, only radicals and reactionaries.

Tony-DarkGrave
Tony-DarkGrave
  • Member since: Jul. 15, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 44
Programmer
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-07 17:06:48 Reply

uhh just let the ban stay someone will sue and go to court.

afliXion
afliXion
  • Member since: Aug. 22, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 21
Blank Slate
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-13 00:25:22 Reply

Funny I just saw on the news a lesbian is sueing eHarmony for not allowing gays on there. Heh. Gays say they don't want to be treated any differentl.... but they single themselves out every chance they get.

SolInvictus
SolInvictus
  • Member since: Oct. 15, 2005
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 17
Blank Slate
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-13 00:29:41 Reply

At 6/13/07 12:25 AM, afliXion wrote: Funny I just saw on the news a lesbian is sueing eHarmony for not allowing gays on there. Heh. Gays say they don't want to be treated any differentl.... but they single themselves out every chance they get.

you could have come up with dozens of much better examples to support your point. i hope you realise that the example you mentioned is detrimental to your statement.


VESTRUM BARDUSIS MIHI EXTASUM
Heathenry; it's not for you
"calling atheism a belief is like calling a conviction belief"

BBS Signature
afliXion
afliXion
  • Member since: Aug. 22, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 21
Blank Slate
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-13 01:23:47 Reply

At 6/13/07 12:29 AM, SolInvictus wrote:
At 6/13/07 12:25 AM, afliXion wrote: Funny I just saw on the news a lesbian is sueing eHarmony for not allowing gays on there. Heh. Gays say they don't want to be treated any differentl.... but they single themselves out every chance they get.
you could have come up with dozens of much better examples to support your point. i hope you realise that the example you mentioned is detrimental to your statement.

I probably could have come up with a better example. BUt oh well.
I guess I can see where you are coming from, but the fact is eHarmony is a private company. Forcing them to allow gays would be like forcing a womens clothes store to sell mens.
O yea you failed to explain how my example was so detrimental to my statement.

Boltrig
Boltrig
  • Member since: Mar. 17, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 17
Blank Slate
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-13 03:32:01 Reply

At 6/13/07 12:29 AM, SolInvictus wrote:
you could have come up with dozens of much better examples to support your point. i hope you realise that the example you mentioned is detrimental to your statement.

Not really. The example he mentioned shows that gays and lesbians want equal treatment, whereas the whole thread is about how they want to be allowed to single themselves out.

Seems to prove his point to me.

Markface
Markface
  • Member since: Nov. 12, 2005
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 25
Animator
Response to Gay bar wins right to ban Straights 2007-06-13 08:52:06 Reply

How could they tell that their straight?

Anyway, the flaw that they found in the system of the law is useful for this bar, but in a sense shouldn't this be emphasized on all pubs that want to keep strictly gay's in or out.

I mean, if you flipped it the opposite way and had a straight bar that banned gays then it would be a scandal and homophobic. The law that they are bending, bends it in a way that can set them up and push them down.

While I don't think any bar would start refusing gay people, if one did follow this motion... it would be totally gratified, and fun to watch the media spill over :)


[;];=]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

BBS Signature