The Right to Life

[bumcheekcity]

So, do sperm have a right to life. Each and every pone of them are tiny and living. They can move, can reproduce, they are sensetive to outside stimuli (mainly light) but every day trillions of the little critters are thrown away needlessly in kleenex.

I believe every man who masturbates unnecessarily should be subject to a life sentence for every sperm he kills.

Who's with me? Take note this is a serious post.

[House-Of-Leaves]

I disagree that sperm is a HUMAN life before it meets the female egg. Until then, it's just a living organism.

We kill organisms every day, be it for food, out of fear, because we didn't hit the brakes fast enough...but it's not a human life, scientifically, until it's introduced to the egg, and the cell-separation begins.

Of course, religiously, you're right.

"Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you." That's a well-known biblical quote. That's also why so many believe that spilling of the seed is wrong.

I don't think your idea is about biblicality, though. :) If it was, though...you could add in the 'lustful thoughts' argument.

Yeah.

[Freakapotimus]

I would say that sperm has the potential for the right to life, but not the right to life itself. Yes, they are living organisms, but they are not alive.

I'd like to say more, but I would have to bring up all kinds of religious arguments - I did take a Marriage and Family course in college. Give me more to argue, first. I think House said it pretty well herself. :)

[FUNKbrs]

What if each sperm is half a murder? That makes most men serial killers.

Seriously though, even during sex purely for the sake of propagation, at the absolute highest only 3 (paternal triplets) of the sperm will create "human" life. Anyway you look at it, most of the sperm are wasted. I don't believe that masturbation is a sin, but I do believe that it makes you "unclean". Which is why I always wash that crap off when I'm done (the shower is a beautiful thing).

[bumcheekcity]

FUNK, please explain EXACTLY how you mean 'unclean' in a rundamentalist way, or a housework way?

[JMHX]

I'd consider a sperm a human being if it wore a tophat and got a job at the bank. Until then, it's just another organism that's coating the walls of women everywhere.

[FUNKbrs]

At 5/30/03 10:02 AM, bumcheekycity wrote: FUNK, please explain EXACTLY how you mean 'unclean' in a rundamentalist way, or a housework way?

It was actually a pun based on the two definitions of "unclean". So in practicality, yes, in a housework way. Yeah, yeah, I guess it wanst funny enough for you.

You've now officially taken 25% of all the fun out of my life, you horrible little limey bastard. How dare you not think my puns are funny. Just for that, its fart jokes from now on.

[nitroxide]

At 5/30/03 10:46 AM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 5/30/03 10:02 AM, bumcheekycity wrote:

Please its a natural act,it dates back thousands of years.Prehistoric petroglyphs and rock paintings from around the world evidently depict male masturbation,A clay figurine of the 4th millennium Before Current Era from a temple site called Hagar Qim on the island of Malta, depicts a woman masturbating.From the Sumerians, who invented the first written Western language there are refreces to Mesopotamian god Enki masturbating, his ejaculation filling the Tigris River with flowing water.Why are we still so hung up about this its as natural as pissing.

Alot of people do it i do it if you have a proble,CUM over here and say something.

You've now officially taken 25% of all the fun out of my life, you horrible little limey bastard. How dare you not think my puns are funny. Just for that, its fart jokes from now on.

I thought it was quite witty,mines was just to easy.

::Grabs bong::
::Looks around::
::Fart::

[House-Of-Leaves]

At 5/30/03 10:40 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: I'd consider a sperm a human being if it wore a tophat and got a job at the bank. Until then, it's just another organism that's coating the walls of women everywhere.

OMG Judge, you NEVER FAIL to crack me up! LOL!!!

Funny story. Two of my friends, roomies, were getting ready to go out with me and my girlfriends. One took a shower, came out, looked at his pal (who was going in to take a shower of his own) and said, "Hey, man. Try not to step on my kids in there."

I about died!

[bumcheekcity]

At 5/30/03 10:46 AM, FUNKbrs wrote: You've now officially taken 25% of all the fun out of my life, you horrible little limey bastard. How dare you not think my puns are funny. Just for that, its fart jokes from now on.

If you knew how much I cared you would be asleep.

[Nirvana13666]

At 5/30/03 05:37 AM, bumcheekycity wrote: So, do sperm have a right to life. Each and every pone of them are tiny and living. They can move, can reproduce, they are sensetive to outside stimuli (mainly light) but every day trillions of the little critters are thrown away needlessly in kleenex.

I believe every man who masturbates unnecessarily should be subject to a life sentence for every sperm he kills.

Who's with me? Take note this is a serious post.

I am pro-abortion and I think that speaks for itself. I don't consider sperm to be a valued life-form unless it reaches an egg and makes a baby. If a woman doesn't become pregnant then she menstrates, wasting her eggs. We can't help that unless we get pregnant all the time, do we deserve to be punished?

[Commander-K25]

At 5/31/03 10:08 PM, Nirvana13666 wrote: We can't help that unless we get pregnant all the time, do we deserve to be punished?

It's not a punishment, it's a consequence of your actions. You really don't want to get pregnant? Then don't have sex. If you do, you're accepting pregnancy as one of the risks so don't complain about it later.

[JMHX]

At 6/1/03 12:44 AM, Commander-K25 wrote:

At 5/31/03 10:08 PM, Nirvana13666 wrote: We can't help that unless we get pregnant all the time, do we deserve to be punished?

It's not a punishment, it's a consequence of your actions. You really don't want to get pregnant? Then don't have sex. If you do, you're accepting pregnancy as one of the risks so don't complain about it later.

Hear, Hear! Commander is one for good points that don't offend the hell out of me.

[BullRat]

At 5/30/03 10:40 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: I'd consider a sperm a human being if it wore a tophat and got a job at the bank. Until then, it's just another organism that's coating the walls of women everywhere.

LOL... I'd like to have a sperm that wore a tophat. I'd name him Binky and keep him in a jar. LOL. Good point though, JMHX, as always.

[Jimsween]

Sperm disinegrates and dies on it's own, at least whn you masturbate you put it to use.

[poxpower]

Well, nature doesn't seem to think they have the right to live, because nature made it so that most of them would die.
As usual, man will try to rule nature blablabla but I think that we should just stick to not killing humans once they're born, and then we'll worry about sperm.

[Kenney333]

A sperm is just a cell without a mind, a half cell at that, it lacks both a brain and self-conciousness, so i really dont think it can be considered murder, plus since every sperms little mission is getting out, i think the ones that do are the lucky ones, the rest just die off in your sack

[bumcheekcity]

At 6/1/03 12:44 AM, Commander-K25 wrote: It's not a punishment, it's a consequence of your actions. You really don't want to get pregnant? Then don't have sex. If you do, you're accepting pregnancy as one of the risks so don't complain about it later.

Judge, people aren't going to only have sex to get pregnant, but accidents do happen.

[Commander-K25]

At 6/1/03 01:31 PM, bumcheekycity wrote: Judge, people aren't going to only have sex to get pregnant, but accidents do happen.

I know that, but they know the risks and potential consequences beforehand, so they shouldn't cry about it afterwards.

"I want an abortion! I wasn't supposed to get pregnant!"

But, you knew beforehand that you might possibly get pregnant, right?

"Yes, but I didn't think I would."

But you knew you might and as it turned out, you did. That's called a consequence of your actions and you've got to accept it.

[Slizor]

I know that, but they know the risks and potential consequences beforehand, so they shouldn't cry about it afterwards.

So you would support not giving fat people treatment? Or alcoholics? Or people who get skin cancer, or lung cancer? They all(or most of them atleast) knew the consequences of their actions. What if the person was ignorant of the consequences?

[lapslf]

At 6/1/03 02:48 PM, Slizor wrote: So you would support not giving fat people treatment? Or alcoholics? Or people who get skin cancer, or lung cancer? They all(or most of them atleast) knew the consequences of their actions. What if the person was ignorant of the consequences?

I really can't feel much pity for the people who smoked and got lung cancer. They chose to smoke, and they get warnings all over the place, on tv, in magazines, even on the darn packages. So don't say you didn't know and start crying and demand millions from the tobacco companies. You've only got yourself to blame. Same thing for alcoholics and fat people.