Today's youth right wing?

[Mark2000]

What's up with young people today? I read through these boards and I feel like fascism has come back in style. Kids who are literally racists and misogynists. There's not a shred of empathy in them - the poor, the environment, animals. Not all, mind you, but disproportionately a lot.

Is it because your parents were hippies and you're rebelling against them? If thats the case you need to look past your immediate authority figures and see the bigger picture. The real authorities: the teachers, police, corporate CEOs and politicians. They all want to squash you into stereotypical groups so they can sell you their shit more easily. They appeal to your worst instincts like racism and apathy. They're your enemies, kiddies. Go get em! And listen to some fucking Dead Kennedys for shit's sake. They were real rebels.

[JakeHero]

I don't know what this guy is moaning about, but most kids ARE not right wing. I'd argue they're the opposite with the zionist and marxist indoctrination of the media.

[Mark2000]

Now that's what I'm talking about. You practically quoted a white supremesist tract just now. And you're 18 years old! I hope you wise up when you get older.

[Mark2000]

BTW, I want to add, the idea that the media is preaching zionist marxism (what ever that is since Israel is capitalist last I checked) is ridiculous. The media is owned but Rupert Murdoch and Ted Turner - two rich, white mother fuckers. When you hear something like the above think about HOW it could be true.

[JakeHero]

At 5/24/07 06:22 PM, Marxist2000 wrote: Now that's what I'm talking about. You practically quoted a white supremesist tract just now.

Well. I certainly don't know how I almost quoted a white supremacist, since I didn't say anything racist, but w/e. I suppose that's all your ilk can use.

If you believe today's youth is right wing then it's not because of their positions, it's because you're so fucking radical. I suppose you consider anyone who doesn't buy bolshevik bullshit as right wing, right Mr. Pinko?

And you're 18 years old! I hope you wise up when you get older.

And I hope your gf's on the pill. Wouldn't want another one of you running around.

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[lapis]

I don't want to derail your topic, but I have to say this: I thought "Horny John Ashcroft" was hilarious back when you submitted it to the portal. Props. That is all.

[Mark2000]

Well. I certainly don't know how I almost quoted a white supremacist, since I didn't say anything racist, but w/e. I suppose that's all your ilk can use.

Your idea that Zionism - the desire for Jews to have a homeland - is being indoctrinated into our youth by the media. You're saying that an ethnic group is trying to control the rest of us. It's something a Klansman would say. That's not racist? What's YOUR definition of racism then?

[UWDarDar17]

At 5/24/07 06:27 PM, JakeHero wrote: If you believe today's youth is right wing then it's not because of their positions, it's because you're so fucking radical. I suppose you consider anyone who doesn't buy bolshevik bullshit as right wing, right Mr. Pinko?

And I hope you realize that not all liberal teens are pinko commies who run around wearing Che t-shirts and have a Communist Manifest in their back pocket.

A good deal of liberal teens are just your average left-wing Democrats, or agree with some conservative and liberal ideas, but lean more liberal.

Take me for instance. I'm a lifelong Dem, have interned for the Party, and have participated in numerous campaigns, including Obama's campaign this go-around. I believe that there should be health care available to all citizens, but those who can pay for better care should be able to get it. I don't like the idea of admitting people or hiring people based on their color or ethnicity- people should be hired on their skills and abilities and willingness to work hard alone. Illegal immigration needs to be stopped, but we can't kick out 12 million people out of the US without damaging the economy. They need to be slowly acclimated into naturalization and citizenship. We should make it less cumbersome for people to immigrate legally to the US. I believe we should develop clean fuel technology, not just because of global warming, but because of the economic opportunities and the need to be economically competitive with the world. I believe force should be used as a last resort and be used the least. But we don't need to take no crap from countries like Iran and North Korea.

[JakeHero]

At 5/24/07 06:42 PM, UWDarDar17 wrote: And I hope you realize that not all liberal teens are pinko commies who run around wearing Che t-shirts and have a Communist Manifest in their back pocket.

There was never once in this thread I called liberal teens as pinko commies. I've called the author one since he seems to have disdain for capitalism.

A good deal of liberal teens are just your average left-wing Democrats, or agree with some conservative and liberal ideas, but lean more liberal.

I am not arguing this. What I am arguing is most teens lean more to the left than right. You seem to be under the impression I hate all leftwingers, which isn't true. I just hate the ones on AOL. So word of advice, argue what the threat's about before you try and make me believe something I am already cognizant of.

[Mark2000]

Jake, you didn't tell me what you consider racism to be if not paranoid theories of philosophical indoctrination by an ethnic group in our media. Do you have an answer?

[AfroJustice]

At 5/24/07 07:17 PM, Mark2000 wrote: Jake, you didn't tell me what you consider racism to be if not paranoid theories of philosophical indoctrination by an ethnic group in our media. Do you have an answer?

he knos exactly wut racism is, b/c he is racist just like any right winger.

[Evannator]

At 5/24/07 07:19 PM, AfroJustice wrote:
he knos exactly wut racism is, b/c he is racist just like any right winger.

So I'm racist because I have right-wing political beliefs? You're making a prejudiced and stereotypical statement, and that's something racist people often do. And by the way, the idea of racism is extreme prejudice towards a specific race. I didn't see anything racist in JakeHeroes' posts, just truthfullness about how the youth generally is today. And maybe I have some sort of mental blockage or something, but tell me, how is making a statement about liberal media and liberal youth racist?

[Mark2000]

Ok, by saying Zionism is taught to our children by the media Evannator has outed himself as a racism anti-Semite as well. Who's next? Who else wants to make my point for me?

[AfroJustice]

he is using the same bullshit rhetoric that all the neo nazis kkk and white nationlists use to justivy their racist beliefs, he is just sugar coating them so it wont appear to be a obviouz racist

[Evannator]

At 5/24/07 07:32 PM, Mark2000 wrote: Ok, by saying Zionism is taught to our children by the media Evannator has outed himself as a racism anti-Semite as well. Who's next? Who else wants to make my point for me?

I'm not an anti-semite, or prejudiced in any way. You sound pretty prejudiced though, and by that I mean that you're being a close minded asshole. That's right, anyone who's not a hardcore liberal like you is a racist of some kind. And also, I'm afraid that I differ with the comment about zionism being taught in the media, but I do believe there are teachings of marxism in the media. But the reason I do not believe there is a support of Zionism in the media anymore is because the media nowadays moreso supports the cause of Palestinians and Extremist Islam than Zionism. I would rather have there be support of Isreal in the media, actually.

So no, I'm not a liberal, and not a racist at the same time. big fucking deal.

[Mark2000]

So because you think another ethnic group other than Jews is affecting our media you're not a paranoid racist? Explain THAT to me.

[Evannator]

At 5/24/07 07:50 PM, Mark2000 wrote: So because you think another ethnic group other than Jews is affecting our media you're not a paranoid racist? Explain THAT to me.

It's not the ethnic group, it's that their idealogy, more or less, supports those who wish to exterminate the Jews, just like the Nazis. And I think the topic of this thread, "Today's youth right wing?" has been disproven again and again, but you're just using this thread to accuse every right winger with racism.

[PuffTheMagicPanda]

At 5/24/07 06:16 PM, JakeHero wrote: I don't know what this guy is moaning about, but most kids ARE not right wing. I'd argue they're the opposite with the zionist and marxist indoctrination of the media.

I'm sorry saying you're against marxism => you're not right wing?? I think you've got your terminology a little confused mate.

[Mark2000]

I don't think Zionism is racist, but when the media reports the horrible things done by Palestinian terrorists, and not the alleged war crimes supposedly committed by Israel, then there's a problem.

No body said Zionism is racist. Believing zionism is a plot to control our minds is racist. And I think the media covered the botched invasion of Lebanon pretty well. I think putting Jerry Falwell in your sig makes you pretty suspect. The man was a huge misogynist and literally breathed hate.

[PuffTheMagicPanda]

Perhaps usually rational people come over all fascist when they don't have to look the person they're expounding their views to in the eye? You're not really interacting with a person here, maybe this is why people seem to lack empathy? I can't say i've noticed it in the real world but most of the people my own age i speak to are fellow undergrads, get the odd chauvanist where he may or may not be being totally serious but that's about it.

[HighlyIllogical]

At 5/24/07 06:11 PM, Mark2000 wrote: What's up with young people today?...Not all, mind you, but disproportionately a lot.

Well, polls are showing that youth today have weirdly juxtaposed views...
For example, youths tend to be tolerant of same-sex marriage while there is a substantial portion of youths that oppose abortion rights...

[Mark2000]

He was a great man who lead Christians into speaking out about their moral values. He also apologized for his comments on 9/11. Since Christians are about forgiveness, I don't see what's wrong.

A great man who gave christians a voice! Christians have been raping the world for 2000 year, man. What did they need him for? Christians need to stop feeling like a put upon minority when they're the authority.

BTW, that apology was out of pressure from many who felt the same but didn't want to reveal it (newt, pat, I'm looking at you). A forced, fake apology isn't a real one. Jesus would be upset.

[Draconias]

At 5/24/07 10:50 PM, Tal-con wrote:

At 5/24/07 10:32 PM, Mark2000 wrote: A great man who gave christians a voice! Christians have been raping the world for 2000 year, man.

Question: Which religion has been attributed to the world's worst dictators Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong?

Except for the fact that these men were not religiously motivated. If any of them had decided "Okay, we need to genocidally slaughter all of the Believers," then Athiesm would be at fault, but all of them were tyrants for economic, political, and social reasons, not religion.

[Mark2000]

Hitle wasnt an atheist. Far from it. He believed in everything including christianity. The nazi emblem is a religious symbol. He thought the world was hollow and we were on the inside. Hilter's biggest mistake was faith. He wanted to have the answer first and adjust the evidence for it, you know, like Intelligent design?

And frankly the holocaust pales in comparison to the christian genocide of natives in north and south america and australia for a period of 500 years.

But this conversation is pretty much done as far as you're concerned because you envoked the nazis, and once that cliche occurs you're out of the game. Bye!

[JakeHero]

At 5/24/07 07:17 PM, Mark2000 wrote: Jake, you didn't tell me what you consider racism

I don't have to consider anything since there's a dictionary definition.

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Since I do not feel any race is superior to the other or hate any race I do not meet the prerequisites of racism.

to be if not paranoid theories of philosophical indoctrination by an ethnic group in our media. Do you have an answer?

And you just prove the classic stereotype that liberals utter words they do not comprehend. Oh, and the jewish people do have alot of sway in the media. No doubt about it.

At 5/24/07 07:19 PM, AfroJustice wrote: he knos exactly wut racism is, b/c he is racist just like any right winger.

And you're an idiot that needs to get the fuck off the forum.

[JakeHero]

At 5/24/07 11:12 PM, Draconias wrote: Except for the fact that these men were not religiously motivated. If any of them had decided "Okay, we need to genocidally slaughter all of the Believers," then Athiesm would be at fault, but all of them were tyrants for economic, political, and social reasons, not religion.

One could argue that communism is a denomination of the overall belief system of atheism. Just like catholicism is a denomination of general christianity. So the murder of 109 million people in the USSR away from its inception in the October Revolution to its fall in the 80s can be attributed to atheism.

[Bolo]

At 5/25/07 12:00 AM, Tal-con wrote:

At 5/24/07 11:12 PM, Draconias wrote: The nazi emblem is a religious symbol.

Haha, no.

Actually, You're wrong.

The swastika was originally a Buddhist symbol of good luck, and still is.

Please find yourself an education.

[JakeHero]

At 5/25/07 12:06 AM, Bolo wrote:

At 5/25/07 12:00 AM, Tal-con wrote:

At 5/24/07 11:12 PM, Draconias wrote: The nazi emblem is a religious symbol.

Haha, no.

Actually, You're wrong.

The swastika was originally a Buddhist symbol of good luck, and still is.

Please find yourself an education.

While you're right, Bolo, I was under the impression it was also a pagan symbol from the Druid religion. Yes, I know it sounds strange it's both a buddhist and druid symbol at the same time.

[Bolo]

At 5/25/07 12:59 AM, JakeHero wrote: While you're right, Bolo, I was under the impression it was also a pagan symbol from the Druid religion. Yes, I know it sounds strange it's both a buddhist and druid symbol at the same time.

Umm ... I'll consult Answers.com.

Ahh...here it is.

It says that the swastika is a foundation of religion and mysticism on virtually every continent, and by most early civilizations, including druids.

[Ihatechavs]

I'm a teenager and I'm considered a member of the far right