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leave it up.

take it down when you take down everything else that's offensive to anybody, no matter how minute.

Let it stay, It's fun

I decided to sign up, just because of this.

Really, the fact that its an insult to all the victims, dead, wounded or grieving is bad enough.
But no, this guy wants to profit from his insults towards the victims of the massacre. I mean, how sick can you get? Really, if this guy is allowed to do this, this world has become a sad sad place. I urge the Admins to think about how they would feel if one of their relatives was a victim of the massacre, and take the actions they feel are appropriate for the grief Pingpen is causing.

I do hope something very bad happens to you Pingpen, something very very bad.

Well I think it's a great game that executed really well.
It is playing on people's emotions and is probably in bad taste ( although i'm not offended by this game ) but if so many people see it that way then why does it have such a high score?

I think to censor independent flash games to the point of deletion is going against the spirit of newgrounds. If you don't like it let it fade into the background by voting zero and blam it.

I think the words of Rodney Rude: "You only get the chance to be offended once, if you watch it again it's your problem" applies here.

At 5/16/07 04:02 AM, Frank-The-Hedgehog wrote: Let it stay, It's fun

Well I agree there, I have nothing against controversial games, it's been enough time for people to not be so precious about it.

What pisses me off is PiGpen coming straight out & saying give me $2000 to take it down, & the $1000 apology is a total wank, nobody is going to pay for an apology that means absolutely fuck all, any apology that actually means something can't be payed for.

This game rocks!

People! Don't you know that those 33 people were the only ones to die in the world so far year 2007. It's not like thousands of people die every day for all different reasons.

We must respect those 32 heroes and that one dude.

And remember them.

For all eternity.

Because they were better than everybody else.

And they were heroes.

Except for that one guy.

Yeah.

If people are easily offended by the tragic incident
They shouldn't play a game called 'V-Tech Rampage'

At 5/16/07 04:28 AM, Catoblepas wrote: People! Don't you know that those 33 people were the only ones to die in the world so far year 2007. It's not like thousands of people die every day for all different reasons.

We must respect those 32 heroes and that one dude.

And remember them.

For all eternity.

Because they were better than everybody else.

And they were heroes.

Except for that one guy.

Yeah.

No its because they're American which is why we should care so much lol

<:)

At 5/16/07 04:37 AM, SecretDreamer wrote: If people are easily offended by the tragic incident
They shouldn't play a game called 'V-Tech Rampage'

I don't think it's the game that does offend them, I think it comes down to the whole "pay me $2000" crap.

At 5/16/07 04:37 AM, Bunzi wrote: No its because they're American which is why we should care so much lol

Well said and I agree. The game was fun, It passed and deserves to be here.
It's not illegal to create a game based on true events now is it?

I just played th game itself,actually its a damn god game. Its short bu thats simply because the person has been decent enough not to make stuff up.

It's a great game true to the story. And i dare anyone to play it and not agree, maybe not with the principles but the internet isnt about priciples

Actually I could end this debate right now.
1. Because the game is fun
2. Its actually Brilliantly made and true to the story

And 3. For those who DONT want to kill anyone they can get the character caught by the police. SO WHAT THE FUCK IS THE PROBLEM, EVERONES HAPPY.

Please get it scrapped. It is mocking one of the saddest tragedies. Its just not funny. All those people died that day and he is just thrashing and mocking that tragedy. I think it should go further than just getting it pulled down but he himself having a suspension. so many people died that day and the ones surviving probably can't sleep at night. He brings back all the pain they felt, mocking loved ones who died in that event and actually saying its a cool game. He is trying to get money now and, and...I just can't explain how motified I am by the whole event happenning. I really, really wish for this to be removed....because if it isn't dealt with, hes not gonna learn and will end up mocking more events like the 9/11 or the horoshima bombings. He needs to learn, and getting this pulled out of New Grounds will do just that.

I do agree it is kind of mean and distressing and stuff but seriously, AMERICANS LAUGH AT AUSTRALIAN TRAGADIES ALLT HE TIME!!!!!!

I wish I had a dollar for everytime an ignorant American said "A DINGO ATE MY BABY LOLZ"

That was distressing for Lindy Chamberlin but has anyone stopped Americans from saying that? NO.

Yeah you can dish it out but can't take it, eh?

The fact is this is something that happened and making it seem invisible won't take it away. It's happened and you can't change the clock.

At 5/16/07 05:10 AM, HayleyMaBob wrote: I do agree it is kind of mean and distressing and stuff but seriously, AMERICANS LAUGH AT AUSTRALIAN TRAGADIES ALLT HE TIME!!!!!!

I wish I had a dollar for everytime an ignorant American said "A DINGO ATE MY BABY LOLZ"

That was distressing for Lindy Chamberlin but has anyone stopped Americans from saying that? NO.

Yeah you can dish it out but can't take it, eh?

The fact is this is something that happened and making it seem invisible won't take it away. It's happened and you can't change the clock.

Yes, exactly. It happened. But nobody wants to remember it! This submission caused so much pain to some people including me. People died in a rampage...thats not cool. I mean, come on people! This has effected hundreds of people and som of you arent worried because...it was fun?! there may be tragedies in the world, but the actual event affected an entire NATION. Posting that submission caused grief for almost all Australian viewers and even other viewers like myself who aren't in Australia. Pigpenguin should get whatevers going to him and Im not saying he has to go through a life time imprisonment but he does need a punishment in New Grounds power and for his submission to be deleted because he is killing the hearts of those family members or the survivors of the attack. Please, I cry begging New Grounds to get the submission deleted because I believe it is sickening mocking one of the worst Australian tragedies ever. So please, delete it.....

I hope he gets his 2 grand.

At 5/16/07 05:21 AM, bounthunter wrote:

Yes, exactly. It happened. But nobody wants to remember it! This submission caused so much pain to some people including me. People died in a rampage...thats not cool. I mean, come on people! This has effected hundreds of people and som of you arent worried because...it was fun?! there may be tragedies in the world, but the actual event affected an entire NATION. Posting that submission caused grief for almost all Australian viewers and even other viewers like myself who aren't in Australia. Pigpenguin should get whatevers going to him and Im not saying he has to go through a life time imprisonment but he does need a punishment in New Grounds power and for his submission to be deleted because he is killing the hearts of those family members or the survivors of the attack. Please, I cry begging New Grounds to get the submission deleted because I believe it is sickening mocking one of the worst Australian tragedies ever. So please, delete it.....

Yeah I agree it should be deleted and stuff and it would be distressing. God if someone close to me was in it my computer would be out my window by now. I mean I was too scared to go to school for days and not only has pigpen made this and upset others but he's taking advantage of people for money which is so sickening I think I might actually puke.

I'm just saying to the rent-a-whine people whining about it with no belief behind their whines that sometimes...you know. Well I'm not sure what I mean but I do. Gah, whatever this is confusing.

Just to randomly through this out there.
In shooting games susicide is always -1 to your score
His score was only 30 not 31

Anyways this proberly would'nt have got nearly as much attention if he did'nt offer a ransome

"exercise in poor taste" "offended by it" "should it be taken down"

everybody see that there? thats what we call morality. this man, this *Thing* is a disgrace to humanity, and the fact his game is still here on NG is a real shame. that distasteful talentless jerks wants money before hell take his sad attempt at a quick buck off the internet or even apologise. get rid of that *blasphemy*

At 5/16/07 04:56 AM, Syth wrote: "I just played th game itself,actually its a damn god game. Its short bu thats simply because the person has been decent enough not to make stuff up"

this guys decent now eh? charging people $2000 to take his not only crappy but tasteless game down is evil, and asking for $1000 on top of that to apologise? hes begging for an ass kicking. hes an indecent jack ass

It appears that his paypal account, with which he has been demanding money, has been suspended. I can't say I am displeased with that.

I believe strongly with the freedom to do things like this, but I think that we should use just a bit of common sense. This tragedy happened very recently, and I think some respect should have been shown in relation to the timing of this game.

Yeah, and while we are at it, let's take down 80% of everything too!

No, it should be kept up, but Pigpen should be kicked in the balls for the 'pay me' thing.

I thinks we should all should all stop whining.

I liked the game. It's well done and stuff, and I enjoyed playing.

People are fucking crybabies for being offended by a game. Yes, people died, and yes it wasn't the most beautiful day in the history. So what? What's a game going to do about it? Make it worse? Kill more people? Didn't think so.

At 5/15/07 04:56 PM, Twone wrote: I think it should be taken down because it is mocking a horrible tragedy.

Yes I think so too, but if Newgrounds deletes this submission then Newgrounds will loose its reputation for having this sort of content. What about the Columbine Massacre games that users can play. I've got a game coming up soon with some graphical content that would be unsuitable for other websites. Newgrounds has the reputation and the ability to keep these flashes on the portal. I think we need to stay original and keep the flash on subject and also keep all the other mentally harmful flashes we have on the portal!

Keep with it soldiers!

The paypal thing was just the icing on the cake, good for him, if he can make profit of a mass murder then why not, the world is full of much worse then this.

The typo's and shit in that game are intentional. It's humor from a certain website. But I won't talk about it, because we've got enough of you idiots already on there.

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to my last breath for your right to say it." - Trotsky.

ive been coming to newgrounds for ages but only been on the forums past year or so did you all make this big a deal over 9/11 and other things because it seems like you didn't think anyone would make this game.

no matter what happens in the world someone will make a parody of it or game and i actually didn't think the game was that bad other people have been mocking and making fun disasters and they stayed on.

Like i saw one the day after V-tech it said 33 people died becuase of one man then it popped up with nelson from simpsons saying ha ha.

Anyway all this talking about it will be what he wants you shouldn't take the game down becuase other people that are affected by lets say 9/11 or something will start saying hold on that offends me take that down.

Although i agree he should be kicked in the balls for asking for money.

Sorry if this is a double post, but it was actually featured as the top story tonight in an Australian news program...

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=26 7689
(The video is under related links near the top of the article)