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Well i think it should be taken down for good and the maker of the game be sued. This is a violation of freedom of press and speech because it spread terror throught the land and according to the Supreme Court, It was the worst attack in our nation. The person who made this horrific game should be fined and also should be placed in an isolated facility for the mentally ill

At 5/15/07 04:54 PM, Ross wrote: You might have heard about this game V-Tech Rampage. In it, you play the person responsible for the April 16, 2007 massacre at Virginia Tech, and it's your job to carry out the notorious events of that day. True to life, the game ends (and you "win") when you complete your mission and kill yourself.

This game's starting to get noticed around the Internet, and as you might imagine, most people don't think too highly of it. BlogCritics described it this way: "The game is riddled with embarrassing typographical errors, the ridiculous screens that follow failure are beyond pathetic, and the choice of music is sure to cause copyright issues. It’s a sad cry for attention, and a miserable use of a tragedy in an attempt to reach that goal." Kotaku.com says, "V-Tech Rampage doesn't bring anything more than shoddy, tacky game play to the table. Free speech and free expression are great. Just make sure you've got something to say."

Not content to stop there, the author, PiGPEN, has set up a page on his personal webpage stating that, if enough people deposit money in his Paypal account, he'll take the game down. Some of the people weighing in on this feel that we should pre-emptively take it down, especially in light of PiGPEN's attempt to profit from it.

Does this game have any merit, or is it strictly an exercise in poor taste? Are you offended by it? Did you enjoy playing it? Should it be taken down? What do you think?

Keep it up

I love to see sensitive little fucks get all worked up over nothing

This site was founded on a school shooting game ffs

back in the oven!

Its strange why no one made a WTC game

The guy is a fucking douche bag for saying he will take it down if he gets paid enough. He's trying to buy people's empathy. How pathetic.

But with that said, I don't believe the game should be taken down for it's content. Whether or not it should be taken down for trying to earn money off of it, I don't know. It's a lame thing to do, but honestly, does anyone really think he is going to get what he wants? All he is doing is ruining his reputation in the flash community, and people will remember his weak and dirty attempts at trying to earn money. If he ever had plans at making money with flash, he pretty much just buried that goal. He's basically threatening people and being a begger at the same time. Nobody likes either of those.

At 5/15/07 04:56 PM, Twone wrote: I think it should be taken down because it is mocking a horrible tragedy.

Wow. Canned responses are what America was based on. It doesn't matter if something is based on a horrible tragedy. Call of Duty, one of the best selling games of our time, is based on a horrible tragedy. Maybe you heard of it? I think it was called World War II. Battlefield: Vietnam? I wonder. Hundreds of the greatest games, movies, and books are based on tragedies. I do agree, however, that the game is of poor quality, and is tasteless, but if we were to force it off of Newgrounds, that would be hypocritical of EVERYTHING that we as Newgrounders stand for. If anything, we should let it be blammed. If there enough people that truly despise it, it will go away anyways.

Oh, and for my above quote, I meant no "flaming" offense. Just simply an example of the people's view of an issue like this. Yes, it was horrible, and I have nothing but sympathy for the families that were hurt, but this is our right as people to make content, as much as it is a right to jeer at it.

Pigpen trying to make money from the game annoys me but I think the game itself is fine. When it comes to comedy nearly everything is fair game and to have this flash removed from NG would be a mockery of what NG is, in my eyes anyway, supposed to be.

There's nothing wrong with the game itself being there, I dont think just for that that it should be removed. I do think there is something wrong with tryoing to profit from it.

Hah, please, these sites who critique flash games are wasting their time. I doubt they could pull off a masterpiece such as V-Tech Rampage; which is hilarious because it had FUCKING Shine by Collective Soul in it. Basically, they're ignorant. Also, if this game gets pulled, it would be a contradiction to all the things that made NG.

It shoudln't be taken down... One, its a fun game and two, ITS A GAME!!!! People need to stop getting offended by anything and everything.

At 5/15/07 05:02 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Should we remove all content that makes light of a tragedy? Do you want your right to make light of a tragedy via artistic expression (Flash game, Flash toon, painting, song, play, movie, et) taken away because it may offend someone? Where do we draw the line? Can we draw a line? I think it's all or nothing, and I don't think many people would enjoy the later.

wow wade, i never knew you were that deep

anyway, i personally think that it was wrong to do, but there is nothing we can really do to prevent its creation now, and really, basically everything in the world will be made of in some way, no matter how far from the tragedy/miracle line it is.

hey it's a crazy, terrible, miraculous world, all in one, and we just have to learn to deal with some of the terrible shit that goes on in it.

i mean wade was right with "Do you want your right to make light of a tragedy via artistic expression (Flash game, Flash toon, painting, song, play, movie, et) taken away because it may offend someone?"

but i still want it taken down. personally i know i wouldn't like it if i was no longer allowed to make fun of those things and laugh at or enjoy re-enacting those events in a virtual world or in the real world, but if i wasn't allowed to i personally would be a bit relieved, in the "what the hell was i thinking? that's terrible" way

you guys might not feel the same way, but i sure do, but i speak for the majority in this next bit

yeah it's a bad thing, take it down, but that has nothing to do with me so i still have the right to make a crappy flash or toss in a joke here and there about it

so don't take it down, because most people will continue to make flashes on the topic, most people will joke about it, most people will laugh at it some time or another

but however i look at it myself, its a terrible thing which never should've been made in the first place, and shouldn't remain on the internet, but as i've stated

it needs to stay for the sake of the majority of the internet's users

If you delete this game, you'll show that you'll give in to the little pussies who bitch about black humor. Then, they'll complain about the 9/11 flashes, then you'll take those down and before ya know it, everything that's tasteless and hilarious will be taken down. NG was founded on the principle of pissing people off and receiving tons of hatemail. Hell, someone once Pm'ed me a death threat because of one my Flash, I didn't give a flying fuck.

EITHER EVERYTHING IS OK TO BE MADE FUN OF, OR NOTHING IS!

What a fabulous idea! Let's forget about curing AIDS, going to mars, building safer highways, and start pitching in to take down some small popular game on a website, because it gave you a tear drop in your eye. Yeah...that will help the ecosystem, take care of poverty, and help Oprah lose all that whale weight. This will do wonders!

At 5/15/07 05:42 PM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: a masterpiece such as V-Tech Rampage

Okay, I'm all for lofty speech in the defense of ideals, but c'mooonnnn.

At 5/15/07 05:43 PM, Rancidiscatchy wrote: If you delete this game, you'll show that you'll give in to the little pussies who bitch about black humor.

I don't want it removed because of the content. I want it removed because of PiGPEN's principles regarding the whole issue. He'll fold for 2Gs.

Find a better 'hero' of free speech rather than heralding a dude that'll shut up when enough people put up.

I don't see the point in taking it down. That won't do much, its already been exposed on the net. It's too late now.

And like a few said, there were worse things on TV.

I don't get the money thing.

Who cares?
I'm not stupid enough to send him money. I'm not stupid enough to send my bank info to Nigerian Princes either.

It's a great testament to human stupidity to see him actually make cash out of this. It's hilarious to think that some people are so retarded and desperate to see a little flash game which they can easily ignore getting taken down from some website...

man.
Newgrounds offers a WISHLIST function and paypal links. He's trying to profit? So is everyone else.

I refuse to even play this game! Using a tragedy to create a crappy game is just tasteless. If the game was any good, it might be different and if it was called a different name other than V-Tech Rampage, then it would probably be fine.

It's a sad truth that there are going to be people in the world who aren't going to give a shit about a tragedy and will make games like this. But, they can't just simply succumb and be told to shut up because people are crying about it. It's always inevitable that something like this is going to happen, and to try to stop it and making a big public scene about it just makes it hurt more for the people who really do matter, the real victims.

Leave it up and let it fade. The people who made the game may be horrible, but the people who have to stand on the soapbox and make a big shit about it are the real problems because they just won't let it die.

You don't kill public attention like this by shooting at it with a loud gun, you kill it by starving it.

Hey, did you hear about Virgina Tech's new rally song?
Click, Click Boom.

At 5/15/07 04:56 PM, Twone wrote: I think it should be taken down because it is mocking a horrible tragedy.

I think you should shove your opinion up your ass!

At 5/15/07 04:58 PM, Net-terrorist wrote: If it ain't fun to play...
Then fuck for all I care, take it the fuck down.

Yes it is, and supporting its takedown is true net-terrorism.

At 5/15/07 04:58 PM, Striker028 wrote: in that case, why should the 9/11 flashes stay? both are disrespectful...he could've at least made the game from a survivor's point of view....

Way to veer off subject and attempt to surpress freedom, asshat.

At 5/15/07 05:00 PM, Nicholas-Deary wrote: DELETE IT NOW!

*Apply user's post to user's existance*

At 5/15/07 05:00 PM, VictoryGin wrote: He is doing it only for attention. He should be hanged in my opinion.

I've always thought the same of you, but it ain't gonna happen.

At 5/15/07 05:02 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Should we remove all content that makes light of a tragedy? Do you want your right to make light of a tragedy via artistic expression (Flash game, Flash toon, painting, song, play, movie, et) taken away because it may offend someone? Where do we draw the line? Can we draw a line? I think it's all or nothing, and I don't think many people would enjoy the later.

Well said Wade! I'm not sucking up to you either, I mean that.

At 5/15/07 05:04 PM, Corky-D wrote: That is a Sick game.

And that's why we love it!

Basically, he has the freedom to make such a game, and people have done it with almost every other "epic tragedy", so there is no reason they should remove it. Now, I do have a bit of an issue with the money thing, but this game is too good, and to much of a freedom statement to be taken down!

If you wish to interfere with his rights becuase you are offended- FUCK OFF! It's his freedom, and it ain't your call. I have fmily that died in the holocaust, I'm not offended by nazi/holocaust/Hitler/Jew jokes. A friend of mine died in Iraq, I still full on support the war. I'm not saying you can't be offended by it, I'm just saying that you have no say in what happens, neither do I. Its all up to him. I loved the fake memorial by 4chan, thought it was hilarious. As far as I know, it no longer exists. Just because it was the biggest school shooting means it can't be mocked? Hell no, man, that's wrong.

In short, I believe highly in my countries freedoms, and I think that anyone pushing to have it removed should be rounded up, kneeled in front of a large hole, and shot in the face, like in Casino. You people make me sick.

If you're offended by this, how the hell do you survive on Newgrounds?

Leave it up, arent games about quality, if the public likes it, keep it.

Anyone who disagrees isup their own arse,people die, welcome to tomorrow.

Let him suck.

well... seeing as this is newgrounds, there's not a thing we can do ourselves except ignore it and let it fade to obscurity. The real issue is someone from outside the NG community bitching about VTech being on here. I believe that's when the real shit will hit the fan. This is going to be a real interesting time ahead of us...

There's no real reason to take it down unless it's due to him being a dick and wanting money for it. Tsunami Lootup wasn't removed, Jeff Weis's flash wasn't removed, and there wouldn't be much sense in trying to become sensitive now. People get offended by things, big deal. Just because people have a tendency to whine about things doesn't mean that anyone should listen to them.

eww who wants to make a game about asian people
they're so gay

Meh, the game is too easy and too short there is no fun in it at all except seeing everyone run out one at a time into a hail of gun fire. I give it a 3.

Well This is Newgrounds, And alot of other flashes about different tragedys were made, So I just say let some people like the game, let some people be offended by it, Just let it be as is.

At 5/15/07 05:50 PM, Jessii wrote: I refuse to even play this game! Using a tragedy to create a crappy game is just tasteless. If the game was any good, it might be different and if it was called a different name other than V-Tech Rampage, then it would probably be fine.

Eh, if you haven't played the game, don't call it crappy.
It is a small time-waster, it really isn't a super fantastic, life-altering game. It's just what it's about that's making it a big deal :/