WAR SPIN: THE TRUTH ABOUT JESSICA

[MarijuanaClock]

This is coming up on the CBC(Canadian Broadcsting Corperation) tommorow night. It looks like a good watch. Just a look at the American propaganda machine. If you live near the boarder you might get CBC. Otherwise there's probably no way in hell this will be shown in America.

http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeyesunday/feature_250503.html

WAR SPIN: THE TRUTH ABOUT JESSICA
on Sunday, May 25

Some stories are just too good to be true. The BBC's Correspondent program examines the United States' propaganda machine during the Iraq war and questions its version of the daring rescue of Private Jessica Lynch who lay trapped behind enemy lines. THE PASSIONATE EYE, hosted by Michaëlle Jean, features the North American television première of the documentary War Spin: The Truth About Jessica, Sunday, May 25 at 10 p.m. ET (10 p.m. PT) on CBC Newsworld.

Private Jessica Lynch became an icon of the war, and the story of her capture by the Iraqis and her rescue by US Special Forces became one of the great patriotic moments of the conflict. But her story is one of the most stunning pieces of news management ever conceived.

BBC reporter John Kampfner exposes inconsistencies in the official version of the rescue in Iraq of Private Lynch. War Spin: The Truth About Jessica challenges the Pentagon's version of a story that boosted American morale during a sticky point in the Iraq War as part of its investigation into allied propaganda.

Private Lynch, a 19-year-old clerk from Palestine, West Virginia, was captured when her company took a wrong turn just outside Nasiriya and was ambushed. Nine of her comrades were killed and Lynch was taken to the local hospital, which at the time was swarming with Iraqi soldiers. Eight days later, US Special Forces stormed the hospital, capturing the dramatic Hollywood-style rescue on a night vision camera. But doctors interviewed by Kampfner claim Iraqi forces had left the hospital well before this happened.

Reports claimed that she had stab and bullet wounds and that she had been slapped about on her
hospital bed and interrogated. But Iraqi doctors in Nasiriya say they provided the best treatment they
could for the soldier in the midst of war. "I examined her, I saw she had a broken arm, a broken thigh and a dislocated ankle," said Dr. Harith a-Houssona, who looked after her. "There was no [sign of] shooting, no bullet inside her body, no stab wound - only road traffic accident. They want to distort the picture. I don't know why they think there is some benefit in saying she has a bullet injury."

Witnesses told the filmmakers that the special forces knew that the Iraqi military had fled a day before they swooped on the hospital. The aim was to capture images that would swing public opinion behind the war here and in the US and encourage Iraqis to believe Saddam's grip had loosened before it actually had.

Kampfner also traces the roots of the controversial tactic of embedding cameras and reporters with military units to the Hollywood blockbusters Pearl Harbour and Black Hawk Down.

[Alejandro1]

At 5/24/03 10:57 PM, MarijuanaClock wrote: This is coming up on the CBC(Canadian Broadcsting Corperation) tommorow night. It looks like a good watch. Just a look at the American propaganda machine. If you live near the boarder you might get CBC. Otherwise there's probably no way in hell this will be shown in America.

Yeh dude, I have seen Canadian news before and trust me, they show a lot more facts than the American news does. I believe it was some liberal issue- oh yeah, I remember, it was about that intern they found dead. Obviously our news never said anything about Condit being a liberal... I wonder why? I guess it's just an impenetrable mystery to us all.

[Slizor]

Haha, Canadians are slow. The BBC and The Guardian picked up on this a week or so ago.

[bumcheekcity]

At 5/25/03 08:31 AM, Slizor wrote: Haha, Canadians are slow. The BBC and The Guardian picked up on this a week or so ago.

Did the BBC run a programme on it? I'd have liked to have seen that.

[arnamenta]

This was discussed at length on Salon (but you have to be a subscriber to get the whole story). I believe it's been big on the BBC; those interested might want to check some of the British papers to see if there's anything there.

I think it's really dreadful, the way the American media has lied about this whole thing. And the fact that the American forces destroyed hospital equipment and terrorized the employees when those people were doing their best for the girl...that's just wrong!

[Jiperly]

At 5/25/03 08:31 AM, Slizor wrote: Haha, Canadians are slow. The BBC and The Guardian picked up on this a week or so ago.

uhhh....it says it got the news FROM the BBC there kiddo.....

[Kenney333]

oh well, thats propaganda for ya

[bumcheekcity]

20 Iraqui prisoners are bring forward charges of Torture against the Americans. They claim they were beaten until they told the Yanks the truth about chemical weapons.

Which I believe we still havent found.

[Jimsween]

At 5/25/03 05:29 PM, Kenney333 wrote: oh well, thats propaganda for ya

Yeah, and no other country ever does propaganda.

[AbstractVagabond]

Doesn't matter. People are stupid to go ga-ga over Jessica anyways. What did she do that was so brave and heroic? Fuck up and be fortunate the Iraqis didn't feel like killing her? Survival? Sure, but her survival wouldn't be an issue at all if her group weren't morons. Besides, survival is such a trivial thing now-a-days anyways. Everybody survives through one thing or another. Everybody talks about surviving, so Jessica's survival is pointless. Get her off my TV and talk about real issues. Something that actually means something. But no, us Americans are determined to make retards look brilliant. I'm no different, just not in the same way. (Yes, that last sentence makes sense.)

[TheShrike]

I agree with OSC, it's not like it's going to change the way people respond to the whole Jessica bit.

Maybe I wasn't watching closely enough, but I never heard about the soldiers facing large numbers of Iraqis, anyway.

Pfttttt

[bumcheekcity]

It is quite amazing, OSC, how a country will go completely mental for one persaon saved, but not for the 3,000 Iraquis dead or the hundreds of people that die every day on our roads or from diseases in the 3rd world. It boggles the mind.

[Jimsween]

At 5/26/03 10:17 AM, bumcheekycity wrote: It is quite amazing, OSC, how a country will go completely mental for one persaon saved, but not for the 3,000 Iraquis dead or the hundreds of people that die every day on our roads or from diseases in the 3rd world. It boggles the mind.

Well bum your really overestimating how much people care about her. Nobody got her name right on our current events test iin my class. The news just liked it cause it was an easy story.

[Slizor]

Yeah, and no other country ever does propaganda.

Propaganda so counter to the truth is usually related to state-controlled media and "evil" dictatorships. Isn't a "free" press meant to be free, instead of being in the hands of a few Conservative elites?

[Jimsween]

At 5/26/03 02:42 PM, Slizor wrote:

Yeah, and no other country ever does propaganda.

Propaganda so counter to the truth is usually related to state-controlled media and "evil" dictatorships. Isn't a "free" press meant to be free, instead of being in the hands of a few Conservative elites?

It's not that the media is biased, the media just took any information that the government gave them. it was the government that was giving the propaganda not the media. Where else do you think the reporters got the information.

[Slizor]

It's not that the media is biased, the media just took any information that the government gave them. it was the government that was giving the propaganda not the media. Where else do you think the reporters got the information.

What about all those "embedded" reporters telling the grim reality every morning on every tv station? None of them sought to check out the facts? OMG!

[Jimsween]

At 5/26/03 03:18 PM, Slizor wrote:

It's not that the media is biased, the media just took any information that the government gave them. it was the government that was giving the propaganda not the media. Where else do you think the reporters got the information.

What about all those "embedded" reporters telling the grim reality every morning on every tv station? None of them sought to check out the facts? OMG!

How many embedded repoters do you think there was? And I doubt any embedded reporters would ask the troops to go to the place where that jessica women was seeing as how she was in germany after a couple of days. The reporters arent allowed to go where the troops arent so it would be impossible for them to get the the place she was.

[mrpopenfresh]

I heard about that documentary. I was going to watch, but I was too damm tired. But why are people so captivated by a girl that got captured and somehow didn't get killed anyways?

[AbstractVagabond]

At 5/26/03 02:23 PM, jimsween wrote:

At 5/26/03 10:17 AM, bumcheekycity wrote: It is quite amazing, OSC, how a country will go completely mental for one persaon saved, but not for the 3,000 Iraquis dead or the hundreds of people that die every day on our roads or from diseases in the 3rd world. It boggles the mind.

Well bum your really overestimating how much people care about her. Nobody got her name right on our current events test iin my class. The news just liked it cause it was an easy story.

And easy it was. As for me, I wouldn't say I'm overestimating (I know you directed that at someone else... perhaps I'm making this thought for the hell of it). My distaste over Jessica is mainly a distaste for the media's arousal for human interest stories and milking it for all they're worth.

However, if nobody in that class could get her name right... how much did they care for current events? I miss my youth when I didn't care, either.

[Jimsween]

At 5/27/03 12:20 AM, OSC wrote:

At 5/26/03 02:23 PM, jimsween wrote:

At 5/26/03 10:17 AM, bumcheekycity wrote: It is quite amazing, OSC, how a country will go completely mental for one persaon saved, but not for the 3,000 Iraquis dead or the hundreds of people that die every day on our roads or from diseases in the 3rd world. It boggles the mind.

Well bum your really overestimating how much people care about her. Nobody got her name right on our current events test iin my class. The news just liked it cause it was an easy story.

And easy it was. As for me, I wouldn't say I'm overestimating (I know you directed that at someone else... perhaps I'm making this thought for the hell of it). My distaste over Jessica is mainly a distaste for the media's arousal for human interest stories and milking it for all they're worth.

Yeah, It's all about ratings now. You never hear about murders unless it's one that really makes you sad.

However, if nobody in that class could get her name right... how much did they care for current events? I miss my youth when I didn't care, either.

Well somone in that class got all but that one right. I got three wrong though, I dont know why easters date is on current events.

[AbstractVagabond]

At 5/27/03 12:32 AM, jimsween wrote: Yeah, It's all about ratings now. You never hear about murders unless it's one that really makes you sad.

Now that you mention that, how is that Laci Peterson trial going? Rhetorical question, BTW.

Well somone in that class got all but that one right. I got three wrong though, I dont know why easters date is on current events.

Maybe the teacher likes bunnies.