Bar Breasts!

[IdentityTheft]

Women in some areas and cultures are approaching the issue of breast exposure as one of sexual equality, since men (and pre-pubescent children) may bare their chests, but women and teenage girls are forbidden. In the United States, the topfree equality movement seeks to redress this imbalance. This movement won a decision in 1992 in the New York State Court of Appeals—“People v. Santorelli”, where the court ruled that the state’s indecent exposure laws do not ban women from being barebreasted. A similar movement succeeded in most parts of Canada in the 1990s. In Australia and much of Europe it is acceptable for women and teenage girls to sunbathe topless on some public beaches and swimming pools, but these are generally the only public areas where exposing breasts is acceptable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast#Cultural_
status

How is the covering of the breasts for women sexist? Yes, men can go topless, but we don't have large milk producing organs on our chest either. I mean, sure it'd be nice to see, but think about the fat girls and such. Besides, due to the sexual connotation of breasts, it'd be extremely awkward and difficult for men(Think about the involuntary erections!). I guess it is all cultural, but I still think that this is an example of feminists going too far.

[nightwolfv3]

Well the BBS is filled with boobs today am i right?

[64]

At 5/12/07 12:51 AM, nightwolfv3 wrote: Well the BBS is filled with boobs today am i right?

It's Boob Day!!

[PincushionQueen]

At 5/12/07 12:51 AM, IdentityTheft wrote:

but think about the fat girls and such.

What about the fat guys we already have to look at?

[SoReal0]

As long as it's tasteful, I see no problem with people running around naked, for all I care.

Feminists are doing their work, and they are doing it well, if they're winning like this. Is it the steeling of the feminist nerve, or the softening of the "American Traditions?"

I mean, obviously, there should be some sort of censorship, protecting people who don't wish to be exposed to nudity in public, and impressionable young minds, such as those of young children, the mentally disabled, the clinically insane, and your average NG BBS user. xD

In all seriousness, though, who really cares? I mean, why would these women want to go topless anyway? If they are really warm at the time, I suppose that would be excusable, but if these women wish to be able to go topless just to attract sexual attention from males in the vicinity, I would not be in support of that.

I suppose that being gay adds a certain bias to my opinion, though. Or, at least, an indifference or selective advocacy for womens' rights.

[migzs]

We need a boobs forum

[Master-of-itch]

-clings chest-
you fricking perverts

[ChilliDog]

YAY BOOB DAY!

Anyway, about the whole sexual aspect of it. Over time the sight of them just probably would mean nothing anymore. It'd be so natural that you wouldn't even think of it as something like that. Like, if everyone walked around naked, the sight of a naked body just wouldn't be such a big deal anymore. Sex just wouldn't be as exciting I imagine.

[IdentityTheft]

Woops, forgot the "e" i bare.

Anyway, I think there's a reason why we consider breasts indecent to expose. I don't want to get a bone walking around all the time. I wouldn't be so upset if it were not for the fact that they consider it sexist to consider it indecent.

[SoReal0]

At 5/12/07 12:58 AM, IdentityTheft wrote: Woops, forgot the "e" i bare.

Anyway, I think there's a reason why we consider breasts indecent to expose. I don't want to get a bone walking around all the time. I wouldn't be so upset if it were not for the fact that they consider it sexist to consider it indecent.

Alright, so by your logic...

And please, refrain from all comments of "OMG!!! Liek dat wood rulez!!!11oneone!"

Hypothetically, if women were allowed to walk around with no pants on, and men were not...

A. If men wearing no pants was considered indecent, are you saying you would no be offended by that singular discrimination towards the male gender?

and

B. If pants were truly uncomfortable, causing discomfort on very warm days, would it not bother you to be required to refrain from removing your pants in public for personal relief from the warmth, although women may freely do exactly that, without fear of reprimand?

Newsflash: It's the same situation. The only difference -- men are permitted to remove their shirts in public, where it is considered indecent for women to do exactly that.

[ChilliDog]

At 5/12/07 12:55 AM, SoReal0 wrote: As long as it's tasteful, I see no problem with people running around naked, for all I care.

Feminists are doing their work, and they are doing it well, if they're winning like this. Is it the steeling of the feminist nerve, or the softening of the "American Traditions?"

I mean, obviously, there should be some sort of censorship, protecting people who don't wish to be exposed to nudity in public, and impressionable young minds, such as those of young children, the mentally disabled, the clinically insane, and your average NG BBS user. xD

In all seriousness, though, who really cares? I mean, why would these women want to go topless anyway? If they are really warm at the time, I suppose that would be excusable, but if these women wish to be able to go topless just to attract sexual attention from males in the vicinity, I would not be in support of that.

I suppose that being gay adds a certain bias to my opinion, though. Or, at least, an indifference or selective advocacy for womens' rights.

That's the thing though, "exposing impressionable young minds" has nothing to do with it, unless that's how people think of it. Nudity is natural, and the only reason that people make such a big deal about it is because we cover ourselves up in clothes. So when those clothes are removed we're exposed to something that our culture sees as sexual or unfit in some cases. If we all grew up being exposed to naked bodies all day every day, things like this wouldn't phase us. But, because in our society we're taught that we're not supposed to see that kind of thing, and that we shouldn't say words like "penis, vagina," or "boobs," that they're wrong. We make such a big deal out of it, and then get pissed off that advertising and whatnot is making America's teenagers horny and it's inappropriate. It's only inappropriate because you say it is. With all this exposure to that kind of thing everyday, I imagine that eventually, if this keeps up, things will greatly change.

[Dr-Worm]

How is this going too far? The ultra-feminists have finally found something where everyone wins!

[Jimboroni]

Actually, if women were allowed to go topless, people would probably get used to it eventually, and female breasts would lose the sexual allure/stigma they've been given by our culture. Much like male toplessness, it would be considered normal and acceptable.

[Ecke]

Oh yeah, I love titties.

[Tancrisism]

At 5/12/07 01:20 AM, Jimboroni wrote: Actually, if women were allowed to go topless, people would probably get used to it eventually, and female breasts would lose the sexual allure/stigma they've been given by our culture. Much like male toplessness, it would be considered normal and acceptable.

The breast is an erogenous zone, though. But yeah, it would become less of a big deal if it were seen daily. I've got nothing against it. Fuck off, prudes; an innocent nipple is nothing.

[TropicalParadise]

It's not really about bearing your breasts every second of every day and never wearing a shirt, it's simply for the RIGHT to.

[Dr-Worm]

At 5/12/07 01:24 AM, TropicalParadise wrote: It's not really about bearing your breasts every second of every day and never wearing a shirt, it's simply for the RIGHT to.

Don't ruin everyone's fun :P

But actually, even though they would become more "normal", there would still be something sexual attached to them, for biological/genetic reasons I'm not going into unless yall specifically ask...

[CapnCrunchDaPimp]

At 5/12/07 12:52 AM, 64 wrote:

At 5/12/07 12:51 AM, nightwolfv3 wrote: Well the BBS is filled with boobs today am i right?

It's Boob Day!!

I love Boob Day

[IdentityTheft]

At 5/12/07 01:04 AM, SoReal0 wrote: Bad metaphor for women having to keep their tops on.

First off, you're example is not the same. The female still has sexual organs in her groin region, therefore, it would still be indecent exposure. But, merely for arguments sake, let's pretend that women did not have a vagina. Even then, I would not feel discriminated against nor would I want to bear my penis to everyone because it was hot. I would merely deal with it.

I doubt that it causes a women any severe problem to keep a shirt on. Sure, they might feel hot, but they do not have to expose their breasts to other people. You, as a male, can not say that it can cause discomfert. Some women might state it, but they could be merely saying so in order to give more evidence to their cause. Sure, there may be a natural urge to take off cloathing when hot, but masturbating is also a natural urge. Do you suggest that we allow public masturbation because sometimes a few guys just really want to jack off

The breasts have a certain sexual connotation. There are even some sexual pleasure nerves on the breasts, proving that biologically they have sexual purposes as well. Society has generally accepted that sexual organs should be covered. As I stated before, the whole problem is cultural. There are tribes in Africa where it is perfectly normal to walk around naked. There are nudist colonies and cloathing optional living areas. It all depends on your upbringing. I just feel that the breasts have a certain intimacy to them that should remain somewhat private.

The fact is, is that it is not discrimination to force women to cover up a sexual organ of their body. Men don't walk around with their penis hanging out, women shouldn't walk around with their breasts hanging out.

[TropicalParadise]

At 5/12/07 01:42 AM, IdentityTheft wrote: There are even some sexual pleasure nerves on the breasts, proving that biologically they have sexual purposes as well.

Many men also enjoy having their nipples kissed/licked.

Why should women breasts be any different from men just because we can feed babies with them? A fat man could have just as large of breasts as i do, and he would be allowed to strut his stuff, they could look exactly the same. A man's breast and a woman's breast can look exactly the same, so it is unfair to have our breasts covered because of two X's in our DNA.

Or should we be so discriminatory to say only a certain size of breast can be exposed and covered up? It is rare for a man's breast to reach say..... DD. So how about only flat chested women can bare their breasts because they're breasts are no different than men's.

Apologies for confusing bear and bare in last post. I tend to say sentences in my head as i type them.

[Forums]

Why on earth would you argue against breast exposure in public places?

[KerfuffleMach2]

At 5/12/07 01:53 AM, TropicalParadise wrote: too much to quote

You should also add that there are a few males that can produce breast milk.

[Altarus]

At 5/12/07 01:42 AM, IdentityTheft wrote: There are even some sexual pleasure nerves on the breasts, proving that biologically they have sexual purposes as well.

Eh, I'm pretty sure that has something to do with nursing children. The nerves release a chemical that relaxes the woman and makes her feel more nurturing toward her child.

In any case, there is no inherent sexual connotation... in many African cultures, it is the norm for the woman to be barebreasted. However, while there is a sexual connotation, this is probably not a good idea. In our culture, it would be the same as any other kind of nudity.

[shaded-restraint]

time to move to a different area =D

[ChilliDog]

At 5/12/07 01:53 AM, TropicalParadise wrote:

At 5/12/07 01:42 AM, IdentityTheft wrote: There are even some sexual pleasure nerves on the breasts, proving that biologically they have sexual purposes as well.

Many men also enjoy having their nipples kissed/licked.

Why should women breasts be any different from men just because we can feed babies with them? A fat man could have just as large of breasts as i do, and he would be allowed to strut his stuff, they could look exactly the same. A man's breast and a woman's breast can look exactly the same, so it is unfair to have our breasts covered because of two X's in our DNA.

Or should we be so discriminatory to say only a certain size of breast can be exposed and covered up? It is rare for a man's breast to reach say..... DD. So how about only flat chested women can bare their breasts because they're breasts are no different than men's.

Apologies for confusing bear and bare in last post. I tend to say sentences in my head as i type them.

Although I'm somewhat on your side (read my previous quotes) I do feel that comparing a woman's breast to that of a man is totally radical. Women, for the most part, don't see men's breasts the same way that men see women's. They're two totally different situations. Also, overweight males may have more fat in that area than most men but they don't look exactly the same, as you stated. Not all women with larger breasts are fat, their figure is much different than that of a male's and again women just don't think about men's chests like that. How many times have you just said "Man, I'd love to see some manboob right about now?" Because I know that's going through a lot of guys heads everyday. Do you look at guys and think, "WHOA! Look at the titties on that one!!!" Because again, as insensitive or disrespectful as some women think of it, horny, boob-loving men do that everyday.

[IdentityTheft]

At 5/12/07 01:53 AM, TropicalParadise wrote:

At 5/12/07 01:42 AM, IdentityTheft wrote: There are even some sexual pleasure nerves on the breasts, proving that biologically they have sexual purposes as well.

Many men also enjoy having their nipples kissed/licked.

Why should women breasts be any different from men just because we can feed babies with them? A fat man could have just as large of breasts as i do, and he would be allowed to strut his stuff, they could look exactly the same. A man's breast and a woman's breast can look exactly the same, so it is unfair to have our breasts covered because of two X's in our DNA.

Or should we be so discriminatory to say only a certain size of breast can be exposed and covered up? It is rare for a man's breast to reach say..... DD. So how about only flat chested women can bare their breasts because they're breasts are no different than men's.

Apologies for confusing bear and bare in last post. I tend to say sentences in my head as i type them.

I explained that the whole thing is cultural. Women breasts have a somewhat sexual purpose. You can not deny that the breast area of a women is sexual in most cultures. As I stated before there still are some pleasure nerves in most women's breasts. Sure, they may not be there for sexual purposes but they still are often used in sex. Just like how the anus is not there for intercourse but many people use it for that. I just don't believe that women should be allowed to go around bare breasted. Also, moobs and breasts have different shapes and uses.

Also, please don't bring up the thing about how males can actually produce milk. Everyone knows they have no real purpose for men, it's just a genetic accident that we have them.

[ChilliDog]

At 5/12/07 01:42 AM, IdentityTheft wrote:

I explained that the whole thing is cultural.

That's another thing that I was saying in my previous posts, it's pretty much all because of our society and how we view nudity. We're brought up to think that that kind of thing is inappropriate.

[Simonluvs69]

At 5/12/07 12:52 AM, 64 wrote: It's Boob Day!!

I wish every day was boob day..

[ripoffhitman]

See, it is pretty much just woman wanting to be the same as men. Woman want to be treated exactly the same. Woman wish to have the same rights, but they don't notice theere are some things that you can't change. We men do not have large, breasts so really it would not be a good idea to make that legal. And like you said, fat chicks running down the street topless would not be a good site. I mean it is bad enough to see fat chicks wearing tube tops. but wearing nothing, uhhhhhh. There should be a law so that you have to be under 150 pounds and a woman to go topless.

[DJJ-asshole]

Yea, you all laugh now, but I'm strongly against this matter...

You see, if we see those boobs all the time, we get excited anymore.
Just think about it: what would strip-tease become?

Stupid feminists.