About ROMs

[bigbadron]

well, for one, it's against the rules to talk about them. period.

Discussing illegal activities - including, but not limited to: ROMs, cracks, warez and hacking.

but some of you don't seem to understand that.

yeah, they're illegal, but not if you delete them after 24 hours or if you own the game itself.

you're fucking wrong faggots. one, that "24 hour" rule is bullshit. remember when that shit was said about mp3's? explain that to the RIAA while they are fucking you in the ass. and two, if you own the game, why do you need a ROM of it? you already fucking have it.

so seriously, shut the fuck up about ROMs and the legality of them. because you're fucking wrong. if you want to talk about ROMs and have questions about them, go to a fucking ROM site.

[Slapdamonkeyaz]

Isn't yous braking teh rool buy takling abot it?

Okay, yeah. Fuck legal-bullshit. If it can become illegal, it is illegal. I think. Iunno.

[E-2]

BigBadron you're a fucking faggot!

[BatDan]

HAI! WHERE CANS I GETZ POKEMANS DIAMOND ANS PARALS?1!!!

Seriously, it's really bad when you have to restate rules that are already posted. It's like Parody topics, they don't know when to quit.

[Rabid-Echidna]

At 5/7/07 10:31 PM, bigbadron wrote:

and two, if you own the game, why do you need a ROM of it? you already fucking have it.

So you can use save states since you suck too much to beat it normally.

[SlipperyMooseCakes]

Isn't ok to download them from certain companies if you actually own the game?

[Shaun]

At 5/7/07 10:31 PM, bigbadron wrote: why do you need a ROM of it? you already fucking have it.

because with a rom it is easier to use gameshark codes, do 'speedruns', record yourself playing etc.

[E-2]

At 5/7/07 10:35 PM, SlipperyMooseCakes wrote: Isn't ok to download them from certain companies if you actually own the game?

yes

[SlipperyMooseCakes]

At 5/7/07 10:35 PM, E-2 wrote:

At 5/7/07 10:35 PM, SlipperyMooseCakes wrote: Isn't ok to download them from certain companies if you actually own the game?

yes

Yeah, that's what I thought. But I guess not talking about them at all is a safer route.

[bigbadron]

At 5/7/07 10:35 PM, SlipperyMooseCakes wrote: Isn't ok to download them from certain companies if you actually own the game?

for backup purposes only. not to play them on your pc. Nintendo once said that there is no reason to backup your games.

At 5/7/07 10:35 PM, madknt wrote: because with a rom it is easier to use gameshark codes, do 'speedruns', record yourself playing etc.

aka, retarded faggot shit that is pointless.

[SlipperyMooseCakes]

At 5/7/07 10:42 PM, bigbadron wrote:

At 5/7/07 10:35 PM, SlipperyMooseCakes wrote: Isn't ok to download them from certain companies if you actually own the game?

for backup purposes only. not to play them on your pc. Nintendo once said that there is no reason to backup your games.

Yeah, I remember reading that too. I really don't see a reason to. Everyone knows if you're using them you're just using them to be cheap and play a console game for free.

[64]

At 5/7/07 10:42 PM, bigbadron wrote: aka, retarded faggot shit that is pointless.

I literally laughed my ass off when I saw the Super Mario 64 16-Minute speen run.

[bigbadron]

At 5/7/07 10:39 PM, SlipperyMooseCakes wrote: Yeah, that's what I thought. But I guess not talking about them at all is a safer route.

yes, let's listen to Clock-Ninja's alt.

oh, why is he using an alt you ask? because his main is banned.

hey, wait a minute. he's breaking the rules.

HMMMMMMMMMM.

[BirthofaNova]

While I agree with what you are saying for the most part, not all ROMS are illegal. There are plenty of homemade roms out there that are fine to download. Also, some have become public domain (such as Beyond Zero Tolerance).

That being said, I do agree that discussion about them do not belong here. One less thing this board needs.

[bigbadron]

At 5/7/07 10:44 PM, BirthofaNova wrote: While I agree with what you are saying for the most part, not all ROMS are illegal. There are plenty of homemade roms out there that are fine to download. Also, some have become public domain (such as Beyond Zero Tolerance).

agreed. homebrews are 100% legal and i would have no problem with people talking about them, as long as there is proof that it's a homebrew and topic doesn't stray off that subject. but seriously, when people talk about ROMs, they are not talking about homebrews.

[Warrickneff]

Yup. I even made a ROM topic when I first started posting here. I think a mod locked it with a "YAAARRRR" or something like that.

But yeah, after looking into the legality of such things after that, I've realized that its probably too complex to bother discussing here. Especially when the intent of the user is often completely unknown.

[SlipperyMooseCakes]

At 5/7/07 10:43 PM, bigbadron wrote: hey, wait a minute. he's breaking the rules.

HMMMMMMMMMM.

Message from bigbadron:
don't come back.

[BirthofaNova]

At 5/7/07 10:48 PM, bigbadron wrote: agreed. homebrews are 100% legal and i would have no problem with people talking about them, as long as there is proof that it's a homebrew and topic doesn't stray off that subject. but seriously, when people talk about ROMs, they are not talking about homebrews.

Yeah, I know. I am just saying that the option is there. And as you know (and state), 99% of the time, they are talking about an illegal rom. Oh well. Just whip out the ban plank on them.

[wwwyzzerdd]

At 5/7/07 10:31 PM, bigbadROM wrote: and two, if you own the game, why do you need a ROM of it? you already fucking have it.

There really is no such thing as "ownership" of a game. Ownership would entail that you have the right to do as you please with your product; eg: loan it out, copy it, resell it, etc. When you purchase a game, you only own the rights to use your copy of their media as they deem fit for your use, and your right can be revoked at any time.

[Akazukin]

Ron seems to be in a pissy mood tonight.

The only reason people use roms is because you can't buy most of the games anymore unless you want to bid X amount of money for it on ebay. For the newer roms though should be bought instead. imo

[BirthofaNova]

You own the copy of the game, not the game itself. This is obvious. That's why I can't sell bootleg copies of The Machinist (even though I could make a killing at this university).

[Laughingbox]

At 5/7/07 10:31 PM, bigbadron wrote:

Discussing illegal activities - including, but not limited to: ROMs, cracks, warez and hacking.

but some of you don't seem to understand that.

yeah, they're illegal, but not if you delete them after 24 hours or if you own the game itself.

good job, you did the right thing :D

[ZeroAsALimit]

At 5/7/07 10:31 PM, bigbadron wrote: Discussing illegal activities - including, but not limited to: ROMs, cracks, warez and hacking.

Does this mean that the stoner crew is eligible for deletion? I really agree with you on ROMs, if you take good care of your cartridge, CD, etc. then there should be no problem.

My brother makes backups of his CDs, I don't see why, if he didn;t leave them lying on the floor, they would work fine.

[1ups]

At 5/7/07 10:31 PM, bigbadron wrote:

yeah, they're illegal, but not if you delete them after 24 hours or if you own the game itself.

Aww crap.

But who seriously gets caught. It's like Napster.

[jacktherack]

yay he made this because he banned me because i was talking about them. it's actually true because i had ordered a bruce lee game from an online site and tried it on the snes and it didn't work so dousn't that mean i have a right to download the rom? seeing as i own the original copy.

[jacktherack]

well there are other reasons for recording speedrun's on the computer and using game genie's and ripping sprites and music. also if the game dousn't work or you sold the console or if you just can't find the game.

[kidray76]

Well, I'm going to assume that this thread goes double for emulators. Though the emulator, for the most part is freeware, just the purpose of it is illegal. Actually think it is a good thing to clear all this up, and I might book mark it for future references.

Although, roms have been around for years now, and people are still talking about it like it is a new thing or it is surprising. In any event people, this is nothing to get your panties in a bunch about. Been in the rules and he's just restating it.

[Dash-02]

meh, fuck the law and also fuck you

[bigbadron]

At 5/7/07 11:19 PM, jacktherack wrote: yay he made this because he banned me because i was talking about them. it's actually true because i had ordered a bruce lee game from an online site and tried it on the snes and it didn't work so dousn't that mean i have a right to download the rom? seeing as i own the original copy.

no. you don't have the right to download a copy of the game. if you were to back it up yourself, by hooking it up directly to your computer and ripping it, then it would be legal.

[Shaun]

At 5/7/07 10:42 PM, bigbadron wrote: aka, retarded faggot shit that is pointless.

we could say that about playing video games in general..