For all the druggies

[MadCow]

Is there some sort of order in terms of the hardcore...ness of drugs that I should no about. All I've really done is week so far. For a few months. I want to start doing shrooms, Acid and E, but am I ready for them?

Just kinda wanna check, before I get into them. I'll probably start during the summer (that's when me and my friends plan to do a whole lotta shit), but I want to be sure i won't go crazy, or OD if I take anything harsher :[

[Girouette]

Just don't take half a sheet of acid like this guy.

[Robotussin]

Don't do E too much, you'll turn retarded.

[Rabid-Echidna]

At 5/2/07 02:01 AM, MadCow wrote:

Is there some sort of order in terms of the hardcore...ness of drugs that I should no about. All I've really done is week so far. For a few months. I want to start doing shrooms, Acid and E, but am I ready for them?

Acid is more intense than mushrooms, and it's kind of hard to relate ecstacy to the other two, since its effects are completely different. Ecstacy is good in moderation and if you can ignore feeling like complete shit for the next day or so, and there's no real way to not enjoy the experience unless it happens to be based on some rare hallucinogen or something you weren't expecting. The pills have a reputation for being impure, though they're usually just based on caffeine or something.

Acid and mushrooms are easier to relate to eachother. I'd highly recommend doing mushrooms first, since I made the mistake of jumping right into acid and it didn't exactly work out too well the first time. Acid lasts 12 hours as opposed to about 6, and I find it to be a bit more intense. If you're just getting into them I'd say go with a half eighth of mushrooms, move on to a full eighth, then try acid.

Then DMT.

[Leeloo-Minai]

Don't do acid.

Do shrooms once. 1/4 ounce, dried.

Be careful with E, that don't call it ecstacy for nothing. You. Will. Feel. Good.

All drugs come at a cost to your brain.

Brains can't heal.

[Bolo]

At 5/2/07 02:08 AM, Leeloo-Minai wrote: Brains can't heal.

Right, be careful.

One wrong move when you're fucking with substances like this, and you could sever a quarter of the Neuron cascades in your brain.

Moderation is the key, if you're going to participate.

[MadCow]

At 5/2/07 02:03 AM, Girouette wrote: Just don't take half a sheet of acid like this guy.

My friend's friend actually did a bunch of Acid, and thought he was a Milkshake or something, and has to live in a crazy person home. It kinda scared me, lmao.

At 5/2/07 02:08 AM, Rabid-Echidna wrote:

At 5/2/07 02:01 AM, MadCow wrote:

Is there some sort of order in terms of the hardcore...ness of drugs that I should no about. All I've really done is week so far. For a few months. I want to start doing shrooms, Acid and E, but am I ready for them?

Acid is more intense than mushrooms, and it's kind of hard to relate ecstacy to the other two, since its effects are completely different. Ecstacy is good in moderation and if you can ignore feeling like complete shit for the next day or so, and there's no real way to not enjoy the experience unless it happens to be based on some rare hallucinogen or something you weren't expecting. The pills have a reputation for being impure, though they're usually just based on caffeine or something.

I might save it for later, who knows? We know you feel like crap the next day, so we planned sort of a week thing where we get drunk for while, then the next day do E, have some fun and feel like crap the rest of the week :[

Acid and mushrooms are easier to relate to eachother. I'd highly recommend doing mushrooms first, since I made the mistake of jumping right into acid and it didn't exactly work out too well the first time. Acid lasts 12 hours as opposed to about 6, and I find it to be a bit more intense. If you're just getting into them I'd say go with a half eighth of mushrooms, move on to a full eighth, then try acid.

davelifeTyler showed me a story about a guy that did Shrooms. It sounds kinda neat, hopefully I'll be able to do it with the rest of my friends so it's a good trip. I don't know exactly why I want to try Acid. Maybe I'll figure it out after I take Shrooms :)

Then DMT.

Oh yeah, one of my friends wants to try that. I'm not so sure if I should. I heard it makes your dreams real or whatever, like you're experiencing dreams while you're awake. The problem with that for me is all my dreams are either extremely weird, or nightmares!

So I guess the way it goes is: Weed>Shrooms>Acid>E>DMT, and that's probably where I'll stop. I Don't want to get into shit like Meth and Crack.

Also, for Rabid... i herd u had sum laffin gass, care to explain what it's like? I've never been on it since I never had teeth problems or whatever it's used for (knocking you out while you're having a tooth operation is the only way I know of).

[MidnyteRayne]

[i]You know that shit you guys do? You're fucking yourself up man. Fucking acid. Acid; it never leaves your body. It's in your fucking spinal cord forever. Let me tell you something about the nature of chemicals man: You know that dude Napoleon? Yeah. Uh, he was banished to an island when the French got sick of him. That's right. He supposedly died of stomach problems, right? wrong! He was actually poisoned over a long period of time. Murdered by arsenic; a preservative. And you know how? His hair. His fucking hair. It was arsenic. You could tell how long he was being poisoned by following the traces of poison up his hair. Dude, dude, dude, if you do enough hits of it you're dead! [/i]

If you don't get the refrence, I hate you.

[unowned]

i guess you can feel like shit from mdma if its mixed with other things, well it depends on you lol

i dont think you need to climb a ladder just do whatever comes your way, just dont feel anxious after you drop that stuff thats what you shouldnt do

At 5/2/07 02:05 AM, Robotussin wrote: Don't do E too much, you'll turn retarded.

not really

[MidnyteRayne]

At 5/2/07 02:16 AM, MidnyteRayne wrote: Double post.

Awww fuck, BBcode.

[Static]

At 5/2/07 02:16 AM, MidnyteRayne wrote:

If you don't get the refrence, I hate you.

SLC Punk?

Also, lol BBCode

[Bovineoverlord]

Whatever happened to just saying no to drugs?

[Acid]

Acid sucks.

[MadCow]

At 5/2/07 02:19 AM, Bovineoverlord wrote: Whatever happened to just saying no to drugs?

Peer Pressure ^_^

[Leeloo-Minai]

At 5/2/07 02:19 AM, Acid wrote: Acid sucks.

No LSD in the BWCA. It stormed like a motherfucker, cold windy rain and a little tent up at the boundary waters. No fuckin bueno.

At 5/2/07 02:16 AM, MadCow wrote: I Don't want to get into shit like Meth and Crack.

Most E has a considerable amount of meth in it. Some also come with flecks of heroin.

E is manufactured tons of ways, and different tab do different things.

[Rabid-Echidna]

At 5/2/07 02:16 AM, MadCow wrote:

I might save it for later, who knows? We know you feel like crap the next day, so we planned sort of a week thing where we get drunk for while, then the next day do E, have some fun and feel like crap the rest of the week :[

Ecstacy is good in most situations provided you space it out over a few weeks. You need to give your brain time to replenish its fun juices. The only thing I wouldn't really suggest is candyflipping since after the ecstasy is wearing off and you're starting to feel like shit, the excellent longevity of acid is still going strong. It pretty much just brought on a bad trip the two times I tried it.

davelifeTyler showed me a story about a guy that did Shrooms. It sounds kinda neat, hopefully I'll be able to do it with the rest of my friends so it's a good trip. I don't know exactly why I want to try Acid. Maybe I'll figure it out after I take Shrooms :)

I like the effects of mushrooms better, but I suppose you could say that acid has much better value. You can get it down to about $5 a hit around here if you buy enough of it at once, where mushrooms will always be about $20 at best for the same intensity of effects, only they last half as long.

Oh yeah, one of my friends wants to try that. I'm not so sure if I should. I heard it makes your dreams real or whatever, like you're experiencing dreams while you're awake. The problem with that for me is all my dreams are either extremely weird, or nightmares!

Not quite. Dimethyltryptamine is more like catapulting your consciousness into some other dimension for about 5 mintutes. I've been trying to get some for a while and hopefully I'll be able to get some soon. Besides that it's just doing research on it, which I would advise you do before you take any drug you're not familiar with. I find that Erowid.org is always the best source to go to.

So I guess the way it goes is: Weed>Shrooms>Acid>E>DMT, and that's probably where I'll stop. I Don't want to get into shit like Meth and Crack.

Any respectable drug user stays away from that. I've been offered massive amounts of meth for free and not taken it becuase I have no desire to get into that sort of stuff. To hell with stimulants and depressants, I'll stick with hallucinogens.

Also, for Rabid... i herd u had sum laffin gass, care to explain what it's like? I've never been on it since I never had teeth problems or whatever it's used for (knocking you out while you're having a tooth operation is the only way I know of).

You should check your local head shop to see if they have any. All that nonsense about sucking it out of a whipped cream can doesn't actually work, you need the cracker, balloon and special canisters that contain it. Cracker should set you back about $15 for a good aluminium one that will last you forever, and the actual canisters cost less than $1 each.

I prefer to use it in combination with other things. It just sort of brings everything to an entirely different level for the 60 seconds or so that it actually lasts, and there's no danger of bad trips or anything from it.

[unowned]

actaully you can get high it off whipped cream, but i was 13 so maybe age or do it right

buy some 5htp to take after mdma

[Leeloo-Minai]

At 5/2/07 02:26 AM, Rabid-Echidna wrote: You should check your local head shop to see if they have any. All that nonsense about sucking it out of a whipped cream can doesn't actually work, you need the cracker, balloon and special canisters that contain it. Cracker should set you back about $15 for a good aluminium one that will last you forever, and the actual canisters cost less than $1 each.

Just an addendum: whipettes (nitrous canisters) are referred to as hippie crack, because the high is extremely short-lived and relatively expensive. If I'm not mistaken, the effects of inhaling nitrous oxide are similar to autoerotic asphyxiation, without the jerking off. The deprivation of oxygen in your brain provides the euphoric feeling.

If you really want to "break through", mad-cow, find yourself some 20x extract salvia divinorum from the Oaxaca region of Mexico. It'll blow you away for a short amount of time (10-20 minutes), but a little bit (1 gram) goes an extremely long distance.

And I shouldn't have to say this, but I will. Don't do any hallucinogens by yourself. Shrooms are way better when everyone's on the same page, but with salvia and DMT, you should have a sitter. Check out erowid and spend some time reading others' stories.

[Lost-Chances]

Personally, I wouldn't touch E. I heard it has a "one-hit-kill" thing around it and considering theres better things than it, it's pointless.

[unowned]

At 5/2/07 02:35 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Personally, I wouldn't touch E. I heard it has a "one-hit-kill" thing around it and considering theres better things than it, it's pointless.

not if its pure and youre healthy

[NISMOelite]

At 5/2/07 02:05 AM, Robotussin wrote: Don't do E too much, you'll turn retarded.

That's pretty much all I can say...

At 5/2/07 02:08 AM, Rabid-Echidna wrote:
Then DMT.

Except good luck

[Rabid-Echidna]

At 5/2/07 02:35 AM, Leeloo-Minai wrote:

Just an addendum: whipettes (nitrous canisters) are referred to as hippie crack, because the high is extremely short-lived and relatively expensive. If I'm not mistaken, the effects of inhaling nitrous oxide are similar to autoerotic asphyxiation, without the jerking off. The deprivation of oxygen in your brain provides the euphoric feeling.

More like cheap as hell. It's kind of hard to accurately describe the effects of it, since it's a dissociative gas but also has strong hallucinogenic properties. I can't imagine that choking yourself would produce anything even similar to its effects.

If you really want to "break through", mad-cow, find yourself some 20x extract salvia divinorum from the Oaxaca region of Mexico. It'll blow you away for a short amount of time (10-20 minutes), but a little bit (1 gram) goes an extremely long distance.

And salvia is completely different. I've always been hesitant to even describe its effects as positive, I think "different" is a better word to describe it. A radical alteration of everything, but not in any real spititual or euphoric way. Plus, it's horribly expensive.

[unowned]

At 5/2/07 02:41 AM, Rabid-Echidna wrote:
More like cheap as hell. It's kind of hard to accurately describe the effects of it, since it's a dissociative gas but also has strong hallucinogenic properties. I can't imagine that choking yourself would produce anything even similar to its effects.

when you black out from it youre vision goes redish brown and your hearing gets fucked

which can happen from a headrush

[Leeloo-Minai]

At 5/2/07 02:41 AM, Rabid-Echidna wrote:
More like cheap as hell.

At a buck a pop? Maybe. It takes a few canisters to get the appropriate effect, and by itself I thought nitrous was pretty mild.

It's kind of hard to accurately describe the effects of it, since it's a dissociative gas but also has strong hallucinogenic properties. I can't imagine that choking yourself would produce anything even similar to its effects.

I've never hallucinated from whipettes, not even after inhaling 7 canisters consecutively. Euphoria yes, hallucinate, no.

When I hear disassociation, the first thing I think of is salvia.

If you really want to "break through", mad-cow, find yourself some 20x extract salvia divinorum from the Oaxaca region of Mexico. It'll blow you away for a short amount of time (10-20 minutes), but a little bit (1 gram) goes an extremely long distance.

And salvia is completely different. I've always been hesitant to even describe its effects as positive, I think "different" is a better word to describe it.

Yes. I wouldn't call it good or bad either, but the potential for a bad trip is exponentially greater than what we would refer to as a good trip.

A radical alteration of everything, but not in any real spititual or euphoric way. Plus, it's horribly expensive.

It is. At about $25/gram, you should be able to acquire enough for at least a dozen solid trips. One hit is all you need though, so being conservative while smoking it will pay off.

[cellardoor6]

DMT, or dimethytryptamine is the most powerful psychedelic known to man. The molecular constrruct in my sig is that of DMT.

[unowned]

why cant you guys just search up the net instead oageigjeaiomg

my final thought, dont worry about 'well researched drugs'

get an understanding of chemical actions of drugs

drinking and doing e after is funny, dopamine>serotonin

2 grams of saliva sells for 5 dollars here an the extracts like 10-20

if you want to do dissociatives read up, i figure cough syrup is an americans choice lol

At 5/2/07 02:55 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: DMT, or dimethytryptamine is the most powerful psychedelic known to man. The molecular constrruct in my sig is that of DMT.

did it take realy long to invert it lol

[LazyDrunk]

At 5/2/07 02:58 AM, unowned wrote: why cant you guys just search up the net instead oageigjeaiomg

Second-hand experience > Third-hand

if you want to do dissociatives read up, i figure cough syrup is an americans choice lol

True. My first trip was inadvertantly off of cough syrup. I was 8 or 9 and thought the syrup felt like bliss on my sore throat. I dreamt some insanity that night.

[PyroGreg]

Take everything as many times as you want, just remember, have fun

[Lost-Chances]

At 5/2/07 02:37 AM, unowned wrote:

At 5/2/07 02:35 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Personally, I wouldn't touch E. I heard it has a "one-hit-kill" thing around it and considering theres better things than it, it's pointless.

not if its pure and youre healthy

But you can never know.

But I guess it's like MM and Acid as well. If the dealer is an useless cunt, then you'll get killed. If he's got a brain cell left, then you may get high quality stuff.

[cellardoor6]

At 5/2/07 02:58 AM, unowned wrote:

At 5/2/07 02:55 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: DMT, or dimethytryptamine is the most powerful psychedelic known to man. The molecular constrruct in my sig is that of DMT.

did it take realy long to invert it lol

It's not even inverted.