Are they born that way?

[Nirvana13666]

I just wanna get some input on this topic.

1.Are people born racists or is it something they pick up?
2.Are People born necrophiliacs, pedophiliacs, and rapists?
I am not referring to schizophrenics, people who fear going outside or anything of that nature.

[lapslf]

At 5/20/03 01:08 PM, Nirvana13666 wrote: I just wanna get some input on this topic.

1.Are people born racists or is it something they pick up?

Never. Racism can be caused by different factors, but is never born. People get racist ideas when they need someone to blame, or when they are being told that these poeple are bad. It's always caused by the environment.

2.Are People born necrophiliacs, pedophiliacs, and rapists?

Partially yes. I think you need some "quality" to become like that, but you also need some influence from the outside. For example, 9 out of 10 pedophiliacs have been sexually abused themselves as a kid, but not everyone who has been sexually abused becomes a pedophilliac. The last ones mentioned don't have this "quality".

[nitroxide]

I was raised by a borderline racist yet i love all man al races all religions and all people.Being born a racist is a hard concept for me to grasp.Even as a child it should be clear that blind hate is wrong.I believe that many of the sickos and racist out there are because they have had an experience or have lived through an event wich has shaped their lives into hating or committing acts of hate.Yet it is no excuse.

[FUNKbrs]

At 5/20/03 01:14 PM, Veggiemeal wrote:

At 5/20/03 01:08 PM, Nirvana13666 wrote: I just wanna get some input on this topic.

1.Are people born racists or is it something they pick up?

Never. Racism can be caused by different factors, but is never born. People get racist ideas when they need someone to blame, or when they are being told that these poeple are bad. It's always caused by the environment.

2.Are People born necrophiliacs, pedophiliacs, and rapists?

Partially yes. I think you need some "quality" to become like that, but you also need some influence from the outside. For example, 9 out of 10 pedophiliacs have been sexually abused themselves as a kid, but not everyone who has been sexually abused becomes a pedophilliac. The last ones mentioned don't have this "quality".

Damn you veggiemeal, how dare you make me agree with you?! Obviously some people are born mentally deficient and incapable of control their own internal urges. There are clear cases of people on the borderline of these disorders (such as sado-masochists and bondage freaks) who realize that even though they may feel these urges, they can alter them to create consensual sexual behavior. Thus there is a certain level of mental deficiency in anyone who does not control these urges in a consensual manner.

[Nirvana13666]

I just think racism is taught directly or indirectly either way no one is born with hate. A child is pure and their environment is what sculpts them. People that are pleasured in taking advantage of the weak or children are sick. I really don’t know if that is something you’re born with or not. I have seen documentaries on pedophiliacs and even read about nercophiliacs and in the end the only way to stop them is through death. Maybe I haven’t researched enough but I can’t find any cases where people like that were reformed. As for rapists I think it depends because it can be a sickness. The majority of rapists probably weren’t born with the urge to do it but there are some.

[TheShrike]

I was born and raised in Mississippi.

And I'm not racist in the slightest.

A lot of it depends on your environment, but some of it is more specific to defects in the human genome.

Or at least that's what I think.

[Nirvana13666]

At 5/20/03 03:26 PM, TheShrike wrote: I was born and raised in Mississippi.

And I'm not racist in the slightest.

A lot of it depends on your environment, but some of it is more specific to defects in the human genome.

Or at least that's what I think.

Your environment sculpts you because you either believe what you were brought up to or you disagree with it and search beyond the resources originally provided.

Getting back to the subject:

One long-term study of hundreds of sex offenders found that the pedophile child molester committed an average of 281 acts with 150 partners. These types of offenders wreak havoc upon society far out of proportion to their numbers. Pedophiles can be found at every social and economic level and can be established members of the community. Sadly, we have all read stories in local newspapers concerning members of clergy, respected businessmen and schoolteachers who were exposed as pedophiles or child molesters. Some pedophiles believe that they have done nothing wrong and are simply more enlightened than the general public. They feel they are part of a special progressive movement and one day society will come to accept, what they see as, their sacred ritual of adult/child sex.

[Lyddiechu]

At 5/20/03 01:20 PM, nitroxide wrote: I was raised by a borderline racist yet i love all man al races all religions and all people.

no one is ever born racist, its impossible.... it isn't something that is hard wired into you like your sexuality.. sexual deviancy such as pedophilia or necrophelia is usually a product of abuse.. but who knows what can happen in the wide world of human genetics..

the power of human self-determination is really quite remarkable. nitroxide you turned out not racist just like my boyfriend turned out not a white trash drug addict even though he was raised in that environment (he is now in military intelligence, which explains a lot of my pro-military views despite my other liberal leanings)

[bumcheekcity]

People are born as children, holding no hate or predjudice against anyone. People grow up into adults and kill other people. Sad but true. I don't know where they get the predjudice, but it comes sonewhere.

[Jlop985]

People are never born that way. It's all learned. However, people are born pedophiles, cause if you're five years old, are you going to like the 5 year old girl, or the twenty year old? :)

But seriously, all this stuff is acquired, and not natural.

[mrpopenfresh]

Racism is something that has to be though to by another racist. Though you may become a racist through certainevents in your life (Such as being jealous of american indians having all those casinos and all the good fishing waters year round). Hitler was racist against the jews because he considered them the cause of germanys bad economy.

Homosexuality (wich i dont think anyone talked about yet), is something your born with. Adults dont "become" gay, they discover their homosexuality. There are a few queers at my school and all of them have been acting that way since they were small children.

[Jlop985]

Homosexuality is acquired. This will start a major debate, I can tell.

[Lyddiechu]

At 5/20/03 07:41 PM, Jlop985 wrote: Homosexuality is acquired. This will start a major debate, I can tell.

*sigh* this is really sad. it's depressing to see a newgrounds fan join the ranks of those crack psychologists who claim they can "cure" people of homosexuality. you can't choose who you fall in love with, and no one should be able to determine who someone else is or isn't allowed to love.. its just something that happens.

plus i am sure as hell glad that everyone on the face of this earth isn't a "breeder".. we have enough overpopulation as it is...

[FUNKbrs]

some men are just born effeminate, and some girls grow up as tom-boys. Sometimes this predestination ends up in homosexuality, sometimes the boys just become pimps, and the girls become WNBA players. It all depends on the socialization of the individual AND genetic predisposition. To say just one or the other is biased and closed minded.

[Alejandro1]

At 5/20/03 09:27 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: some men are just born effeminate, and some girls grow up as tom-boys. Sometimes this predestination ends up in homosexuality, sometimes the boys just become pimps, and the girls become WNBA players. It all depends on the socialization of the individual AND genetic predisposition. To say just one or the other is biased and closed minded.

I'd say you have a lot of truth there funk. I really think the majority of these "thoughts" or ideas are brought on by outside sources; racism, and the like, are brought on by being around racist people and ideas during the years when you begin to grow some maturity; usually around 11-14. Homosexuality, I'd say, is something more biologicly structured in the person. What I mean to say is that people don't usually choose to be homosexuals, but their hormone makeup pushes them to be that way. I doubt that anyone would just choose to be homosexual (because society as a whole looks down on homosexuality under heterosexuality), just as people don't choose to be short or fat, so we can't blame homosexuality as some sort of disease or something, because it's not. Homosexuals are just average people like the rest of us trying to fit into society.

[Jimsween]

Ale, would you mind if we put it to vote in the PC to let you in, I'm sure it would pass.

[Freakapotimus]

At 5/20/03 09:20 PM, Lyddiechu wrote: plus i am sure as hell glad that everyone on the face of this earth isn't a "breeder".

I hate this word :( Some people I know use this term the same way whites use the n-word for blacks. It can carry so much negative conotation with just one little sentence.

Anyway...

It's funny how I was brought up. My parents taught me that you shouldn't judge people by their skin or faith, but my mother is pretty racist. Maybe super racist. Some things I just didn't catch until I was older. She always whispers the word "black" when she talks about someone, we had fights when I dated Italians in high school (What did she expect? We lived in a mostly-Italian neighborhood!) and she always got an attitude when a friend of mine called - he was black, and was dating my Colombian friend (her parents didn't like him either). After 9-11, my mother was fond of saying things like "...and they wonder why we hate them."

Some things, like prejudices against skin color, religion, or country of origin, are picked up later in life, from personal experiences or from family/peer influence.

[Nirvana13666]

At 5/20/03 09:20 PM, Lyddiechu wrote:

At 5/20/03 07:41 PM, Jlop985 wrote: Homosexuality is acquired. This will start a major debate, I can tell.

*sigh* this is really sad. it's depressing to see a newgrounds fan join the ranks of those crack psychologists who claim they can "cure" people of homosexuality. you can't choose who you fall in love with, and no one should be able to determine who someone else is or isn't allowed to love.. its just something that happens.

plus i am sure as hell glad that everyone on the face of this earth isn't a "breeder".. we have enough overpopulation as it is...

I am so glad I can completely agree with someone. Lyddiechu I was trying to explain that on the gays shouldn't marry topic.