Bnp Party A Valid Choice?

[Boltrig]

One for the Brits, spec Scots. Anyone else who can be bothered to get to know their facts - lets hear what you have to say too!

BNP Policies

I got an election leaflet through the dor the other day from the BNP (British National Party) [For all those across the water, the BNP were known for being stoicaly anti-black and such back in the day.]

From the leaflet I kinda got the impression that:

A) They werent ripping on the black community any more
B) They had shifted their focus onto the influx of Eastern Europeans that have arrived in the UK
C) Overall they were less extreme and made a lot more sense than before.

One of their policies that I wholeheartedly agree with is getting the police officers out from desks creaking with paperwork and making sure the local areas are safe.

If only they didnt make theor staple arguments against immigrants I would be more than tempted to vote for them.

As it is I might have to go with SNP.

[Korriken]

sounds like american democrats to me. they held blacks in slavery, then formed the Jim Crow laws, which got shot down, and how they're screaming for equal rights for all minorities... eh, politics is a game of "who can adapt to trends" before the others do.

[Boltrig]

I would agree, but I think the BNP are only adapting to negative trends.

No one looks at blacks and thinks of them as any different any more. Now the naggling little part of the British voter's brain is looking with increasing concern at the Eastern block immigrants.

As with south park: "They took our jobs" is the BNP cry.

If the SNP adopted the philosophy of less paperwork for police, then they'd be a shoe-in for me

[SyntheticTacos]

At 4/19/07 07:36 PM, Korriken wrote: sounds like american democrats to me. they held blacks in slavery, then formed the Jim Crow laws, which got shot down, and how they're screaming for equal rights for all minorities... eh, politics is a game of "who can adapt to trends" before the others do.

The parties switched ideologies, yeah. It's not the same people who are liberal now that were Dems then.

[SmilingAssasin]

Have you ever met anyone who's voted BNP? I was in Liverpool visiting family last year, and there was a guy there who was a member of the BNP, this guy spent the best part of an hour at my grandmothers house talking to me about how we should all be on the streets protesting about black and asian people living in our country, we should also be fire bombing thier shops and beating them at every opportunity according to this fine upstanding member of society.

So if thats what the people are like who vote for the BNP, i think I'd rather vote for the monster raving looney party than vote BNP.

[zzzzd]

BNP are racist wankers. The Leaflet I got through my door was intitled 'Help Britain lead a Crusade against Islam.. vote BNP'

The Leaders were all neo-nazis and skinheads back in the 80's. And a large proportion of them have some sort of hate crime behind them.

Allthough i'm not paticulaly fond of alot of the muslims in Britain, I certainly won't be helping the BNP on a crusade to rid Britain of them.

[emmytee]

You fucking Idiot. I think it was like 2 years ago that Nick Griffin went on record saying that blacks and asians would ALL be 'repatriated' if the bnp got in. That means thrown out the country. Not only that, he said Islam was a wicked faith and some of his best advisors or mates or whatever DRESSED UP AS KLANSMEN. Also, a whole bunch of them almost got done for hate speech recently too. BNP is a skinhead party, and it always will be a skinhead party because it is run by skinheads (although a few of them have hair). Whatever bullshit they write on a website is secondary to that.

Nick Griffin was a member of the National Front before the BNP. The national front was found to be behind a string of robberies as well as a rape and is has members in jail for murdering minorities. Its shut down now, but Nick Griffin is now the Leader of the BNP.
Go figure

Colin Smith, regional organiser for South East London: Ex-member of the openly nazi British Movement before leaving to join the BNP in the early 1990s.
1981 - photographed wearing a British Movement jacket with a swastika armband at a British Movement rally.

Stephen Belshaw, Regional organiser for the East Midlands: 1991-3 he was a combat 18 activist. Check out combat 18's website for the philosophy

The Bnp's number two candidate for London: - Was in combat 18 before the BNP (a nazi group who idolise Hitler and are responsible for many murders of blacks and Asians. The Russian equivalent of this group show their murders on their russian website)

Number 5 for europe: John Bean : once described himself as"the British Dr Goebbels", after Hitler's propaganda chief.

[Flagel]

I really doubt that the BNP will ever lose its image as racist, it would take some serious PR work to do that, but that may just be a kind of ignorant approach to the party, but I doubt they will ever achieve serious power.

[JakeHero]

At 4/19/07 08:40 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote: The parties switched ideologies, yeah. It's not the same people who are liberal now that were Dems then.

Syn consistantly points out how much of a leftwinger he is by buying into this untrue bullshit.

[Mr-Pope]

A bunch of opportunistic racist vultures.

In the 80's it was the Jews and Asians they targeted, then the Blacks and Asians and now it's the Asians and the Eastern Europeans.

They campaign heavily in depraved white working class areas with low levels of education, where people think they have been left to rot by Labour/Tories, then spread lies and hate and create a sense of fear of those horrible nasty foreigners within the community.

Have you actually read their policy's? Paying ethnic minorities to go home, to make sure Britain stays white?

And uniting the Republic of Ireland with the rest of the UK? Utter insanity. I see they've took it down now but not too long ago on their site they proposed sending a militia to forcefully bring Ireland in to the UK.

[Mr-Pope]

At 4/20/07 02:32 PM, Mr-Pope wrote: They campaign heavily in depraved white working class areas with low levels of education,

That's not to say they haven't got a large number of much better off supporters either, of course. They can be equally coerced into thinking their "British way of life" is under threat.

[Karzand]

They want to close down US military bases in the UK and withdraw from NATO so I say no. Besides if you abondened(sp?) your commitments to the US how will you get your new F-35s

[HighlyIllogical]

They sound like racist pricks to me. The BNP reminds me of a more genteel KKK.

[D2Kvirus]

In short, their polices aren't blaming the "darkies" for coming over and taking all our jobs, but the Eastern Europeans (who, in fact, migrate more to Germany because they get paid and treated better than they do here).

This is the same BNP that, in their leaflket for the last General Election, stated that one of their policies was stopping expansion of Heathrow. Shame the extension was half built by that time, eh?

[Mr-Pope]

Some little old wifey just this minute put a BNP leaflet threw my door, I should have went out and smacked her about a little bit!

[zzzzd]

At 4/22/07 02:05 AM, HighlyIllogical wrote: They sound like racist pricks to me. The BNP reminds me of a more genteel KKK.

Theres nothing Genteel about the BNP, their Skinheads and neo-nazis.

[D2Kvirus]

And their leader has a beer gut.

[Tri-Nitro-Toluene]

The BNP, quite simply, are racist, xenophobic, fascists.

They are not good for Britain.

Sadly, I live in a rather poor area, and as such the BNP have a fair amount of support from the ignorant among the working , or rather not working and stuck on benefits because they are too lazy to get a job, classes.

[Loch-Ness-Monster]

At 4/22/07 12:52 AM, Karzand wrote: They want to close down US military bases in the UK and withdraw from NATO so I say no. Besides if you abondened(sp?) your commitments to the US how will you get your new F-35s

Well that's one of the few things that I actually agree with the BNP about. Britain should stop getting dragged into everybody else's problems. As for the F-35's, we've paid for them, it's not like they're giving them as a free gift. Refusing to hand them over would be like kicking a customer out of a shop just after they've paid you. It would destroy all international confidence in America's defence industries.

As for the BNP, the government only has itself to blame for any successes of them. They've left plenty of poor areas to rot and it's clear that they no longer have any commitment to improving the lives of working class people. Also they're always pandering to islamist groups and refusing to deport foreign extremists because the little darlings might get mistreated back home. If the government wants to try and prevent the BNP from gaining support, they should try and tackle the social deprevation that's been increasing under their leadership. But that would require courage and long-term thinking, something this government doesn't have.

[HighlyIllogical]

At 4/22/07 02:55 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: Sadly, I live in a rather poor area, and as such the BNP have a fair amount of support from the ignorant among the working [class].

That sounds rather like our Midwest and the Republican party. People will often vote against their own economic interests, eh?

[MortifiedPenguins]

At 4/23/07 03:15 PM, HighlyIllogical wrote:

At 4/22/07 02:55 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote:

That sounds rather like our Midwest and the Republican party. People will often vote against their own economic interests, eh?

Do you happent to like being an arrogant retard or does it come naturally?