At 4/27/07 06:45 AM, positively-negative wrote:
Gun control works depending on the culture. I mean in New Zealand we have the highest rate of gun ownership in the OECD but we have little gun crime compared with the USA.
First of all, you have less gun crime because your country has only a fraction of our population. You have a lower gun crime RATE because of a whole slew of variables.
You live on an Island where things like guns aren't easily smuggled into your country. You have a small percentage of minorities, and you have probably little to no illegal immigrants. We have 10 times as many illegal immigrants as you have citizens... and the majority of crime in our country is committed by minorities and illegals.
I wonder how high your gun crime rate would be if your bordered Mexico, had the same racial and socio-economic makeup as the US, etc... It would probably be about the same. Maybe higher because your ignorant politicians would probably end up making the same mistake as the UK and outright ban certain guns, which actually statistically increases gun crime.
I have known how to use a rifle since I was a child and I would consider myself a careful person around firearms.
And so would 99.99% of Americans who legally own guns.
I have never seen a gun in the wrong hands, but it does happen everywhere, it is just the types and of guns out there in the USA due to the wild west gun slinging cowboy mantra that exists there and is too late to change.
You don't know what you're talking about. Because those "gun slinging cowboys" you talk about barely commit any of the gun crime in the US.
As a proved before, the majority of firearm crime is committed by people who do not LEGALLY own their firearms, therefore those southern Americans that people like you like to falsely stereotype are the least likely segment of society to commit crime with firearms, because well, they LEGALLY own their guns.
You're just another one of those ignorant non-Americans who watch a few movies and base your entire opinion on our country on emotional and politically-driven nonsense that has no basis in reality or facts. You'd rather take the convenient, and easy rout and use as little brain power as possible, and just blame the "cowboys".
And remember many cases of gun crime are performed with the victim's own gun. Keeping a weapon beside you for personal defense is a bad idea, especially if the criminal gets to it before you.
That's not true, in fact there are up to 2.5 million defensive uses of firearms by citizens in the US every year. That's potentially millions of crimes prevented by legal gun use.
So actually, law-abiding, responsible gun owners in the US who have guns for personal defense is STATISTICALLY a good idea, it prevents more crime than it creates.
And cellardoor6, you work for a weapons company. The type of people that build stuff purely for profiting off humans killing other humans. The fact that there is a market for human destruction is a sad thing.
No, what is a sad thing is that ignorant people like you know so little about guns, yet think you're informed enough to start throwing around accusations. What's sad is that you base your entire views on what you see on TV and haven't experienced for yourself.
Guns are necessary to society, and the weapons that my company works on are specifically used for law enforcement and military. If they DIDN'T get those weapons then they wouldn't be able to defend their countries or uphold the law in their countries. There's nothing sad about that. It's just sad that you are so blinded by the negative coverage of guns in the movies and in the media that you can't see reality.
Did you know that more people are killed in auto accidents in the US than by firearms? Does that mean people working at Toyota and making cars that kill more people than guns is a sad thing?
Wake up, you know nothing about what you're talking about. But don't feel bad, 99% of people like you don't either, your distorted mindset is just a negative byproduct of your media. You just don't know any better.