At 4/25/07 10:51 PM, SolInvictus wrote:
At 4/25/07 10:46 PM, HighlyIllogical wrote:
It would certainly have prevented him from killing 32 people.that is unfotunatley just an assumption.
Indeed... as is the assumption that allowing students to carry guns on campus would have stopped or even lessened Cho's spree. it takes more than just a weapon, but training above and beyond that required to recieve a C&C permit to deal with a situation like that. Not only that, if the police had responded in a timely manner (a FAR more compelling issue, if you ask me), if another student was armed, would it not have made the situation worse? How could an officer, well trained or not, make the distinction in a split second of the "safe" armed gunman? Not only that, with people not trained for such a situation, and all thepanic that undoubtedly went around, who's to say that an armed classmate wouldn't have injured or killed an innocent bystander trying to be the "hero"?
There are FAR too many variables in the situation to say that "If X had been the case (be it banned guns, stricter controls, or lack of them), then the whole thing would have been avoided". There are only 3 issues in this which actually deserve looking at: The response by police, the availability of weapons to the mentally imbalanced, and the inability of faculty and students who saw the warning signs to be able to effect a change in the situation.
As far as gun control not working, there are no conclusive data. Period. Cellar has legitimate points and so does Elfer. Cellar, however, seems to think the only form of gun control is an outright ban, which is a flawed assumption (obviously). Though, one can look at, say, bombs... illegal in all instances... banned. How many bombings do you see in this country? Not very damn many... and it's a more efficient way of killing a large number of people in a single place, too. Is there a black market for explosives? Sure, but it's limited due to law enforcement's strict adherance to the idea that noone should have them.
Then again maybe if we make guns mandatory, the stupid folk would weed themselves out.