At 4/23/13 03:23 AM, Samuraikyo wrote:
No I said that number was for the UK, not the United States. I said 120,000 for the United States. My numbers were off by a few 0's because I accidentally left them out. It's nothing to whine about because the outcome is still the same.
well hell that's even further off then, that puts America at 12,000 crimes per 100,000, which would make the USA more dangerous than Somalia.
you can't defend your math, that's simply impossible. you turned 400 per 100,000 into 12,000 per 100,000 with some crap math you pulled out your ass. and for what? i have no idea.
No, just the United States. Which it is. My math wasn't entirely wrong the outcome was the only reason for showing the math. Even without a few 0's, it still came out exactly how I wanted, a crime rate of 2.5-3 times higher overall.
the UK has a higher crime rater per capita than the USA. and yes, the math IS entirely wrong. no one here is going to agree with it because it's simply wrong. and of course it came out how you WANTED, problem is, it doesn't reflect reality at all.
That's ridiculous. The logic that 400 out of every 100,000 people commit crimes is a worthless statistic number also.
no it's not.
It's flawed in itself. If you have 1 million people and 2000 commit crimes in ONE area set of 100,000, that statistic would become 200 out of every 100,000 people for entire area of 1 million people which is wrong and NOT TRUE.
if you know anything about math, you'd see that 2,000 out of 1 million and 200 out of 100,000 is the same percentage. you simply divide them both by 10.
It's just that one area that committed all the crimes. The same it would be anywhere in the world. Not to mention this would be all over the United States if that statistic is intact. Basically you would have millions of more crimes to be a victim to.
*head scratch* not only do you fail at math, you fail at logic too. Let me spell this out in small words so you can understand. crime rate per capita is the number of crimes divided by the number of people in an area, be it a block, district, city, county/parish/borough/prefecture, state, or nation. your lousy math trying to make the USA look like it has a higher crime rate than the UK per capita simply doesn't work. the USA has 3 times the population and only double the crime. when you divide the population of the UK by the number of crimes and then do the same for the USA, the UK comes out with a higher number of crimes per capita.
It's a bullshit number...
I can basically tell you're just gonna keep crying bullshit and putting out your wrong numbers to prove some flawed point, while the rest of the forum laughs at you.
There's absolutely NO WAY to prove that there would be less crime if our population was lowered. I actually find it hilarious that despite the fact the United States is 38 times the size of the UK with only 5 times the population,
which means less overall population density, which is a factor in crime. more population density leads to more crime.
I find it hilarious that even with those flawed numbers, the US would still be commiting crimes at half the rate of the UK even though we have so many more places to live and get away from crime areas. And no, hilariously enough, China's murder rate is about 4 to 5 times LESS than the United States even though it has roughly 4 times the population. They have gun control over there as well. Here are some links you can check out for that:
you can't just take the murder rate into account. if you're trying to say we have a murder rate of 12,000 per 100,000 then a 10th of our population would be wiped out every year which would eventually eradicate human life in the USA. and if you're not then you're simply moving the goal posts around as your points get shot down.
But the UK is much safer than the United States as they have a murder rate of 1.2 which is only slightly higher than China, but their murder count is less than 1000, which I believe it's around 750.
murder isn't the only crime. you're twice as likely to be raped, assaulted, carjacked, etc in the UK. Also, gang on gang violence makes up a large portion of the USAs murder rate.
The United States has high crime, in fact some of the highest around. I don't know why you're even trying to prove that it isn't. Who cares? Oh no, the US is a shithole...oh well.
the US is not a shithole, silly 'tard. our crime rate isn't even as high as the UK's.