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At 4/16/07 06:44 PM, Grammer wrote: It's best if you ignore them. But w/e, I'm probably wrong, because like I said, it's very hard for me to become emotionally attached to something that does not affect me.

"Oh hey, there's a thread here about some people who got shot by a crazed gunman. It's like Columbine all over again. I'll just post here several times to show how completely nonchalant I am about everything."

As much as I could care less about 30 people who died in a continent several hours away from me, it doesn't help the situation any more to say so. In fact when there's several other people here already giving their condolences, saying "it's very hard for me to become emotionally attached to something that does not affect me" just makes you look like a troll.

Now, putting all levity aside, this is a terrible tragedy. I just can't help and look at how close this date is to 4/20, the day of the Columbine Massacre.

At 4/16/07 06:52 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote: Now, putting all levity aside, this is a terrible tragedy. I just can't help and look at how close this date is to 4/20, the day of the Columbine Massacre.

Oh shit. Maybe the guy was on a really long high and forgot what day it was and tried to do a recreation

Ok, ending the gun control arguments.

1.The reports I saw said he had two 9 mm handguns. If he lacked a prevous record they could have easily been bought legally.

2. Yes he did that much damage with handguns. This says that you don't need machine guns to kill lots of people so you plain don't need them.

Now focus on the matter at hand

Because I don't feel like checking these 9 pages...
shooter's lj

At 4/16/07 06:59 PM, stafffighter wrote: 2. Yes he did that much damage with handguns. This says that you don't need machine guns to kill lots of people so you plain don't need them.

The sad thing is that he had to reload and security didn't get any shots in

At 4/16/07 06:43 PM, Simkiss wrote: WHAT THE FUCK?
At the memorial site (http://www.vtechdies.com/) there is an advertisement, guess how many people died and win a ps3...

Also, 4chan got the guestbook, :o.

omg. thats horrible!

At 4/16/07 06:44 PM, Grammer wrote: it's very hard for me to become emotionally attached to something that does not affect me.

We get it. Stop posting to the thread, please.

MORE UPDATES: Latest I heard is that they have trouble identifying him because he blew his face off - well, I'm assuming that - what they actually said was his face was "disfigured beyond identification". Eyewitnesses claim that he was an Asian male in his twenties, armed with two handguns and was wearing a "vest" (bulletproof?) underneath a black leather jacket. He was also wearing a maroon baseball cap. His fingerprints came up clean and he was not carrying any ID or a cellphone. That is the Norris Building shooting. Police are not even sure yet whether there was another shooter - they are examining the shell casings from both shootings.

At 4/16/07 06:43 PM, Simkiss wrote: WHAT THE FUCK?
At the memorial site (http://www.vtechdies.com/) there is an advertisement, guess how many people died and win a ps3...

Also, 4chan got the guestbook, :o.

Actually, it is quite obvious that 4chan was the one that MADE the site. I just thought you guys could just put two and two together, but nooooooooo...

At 4/16/07 07:02 PM, NoLifeLeft wrote: MORE UPDATES:

linxplox. Just put them at the end of your post. :)

At 4/16/07 07:01 PM, RacistBassist wrote:

At 4/16/07 06:59 PM, stafffighter wrote: 2. Yes he did that much damage with handguns. This says that you don't need machine guns to kill lots of people so you plain don't need them.

The sad thing is that he had to reload and security didn't get any shots in

That's the personal responcibility of the security personel and those responsible for employing and training them. It's not political.

At 4/16/07 06:24 PM, NoLifeLeft wrote: Practically every country has gun control, or good gun politics at least, and statistics prove that they all have much lower crime rates. Coincidence? I think not!

HA! That's total bullshit! Where do you get this crap info from anyway?

Switzerland has a very high gun count per capita, yet they have very little crime. Now look at Washington D.C.. This city is the most gun-restrictive place in the country and, not surprisingly, it's also one of the most dangerous places in our country. The biggest myth about gun control is probably that it lowers crime, which it does not.

At 4/16/07 06:18 PM, Der-Ubermensch wrote: Nice way to celebrate the assault weapon's ban.

What's that supposed to mean?

wow 33 people killed. thats fucked upside down with a double inch donkey

At 4/16/07 07:04 PM, stafffighter wrote:

At 4/16/07 07:01 PM, RacistBassist wrote:

At 4/16/07 06:59 PM, stafffighter wrote: 2. Yes he did that much damage with handguns. This says that you don't need machine guns to kill lots of people so you plain don't need them.

The sad thing is that he had to reload and security didn't get any shots in

That's the personal responcibility of the security personel and those responsible for employing and training them. It's not political.

I do not find the political part sad. I find the lack of training and the responsibility of the security team sad. I thought that security was supposed to protect, not just as a deterring method.

At 4/16/07 05:40 PM, Snake-Arsenic wrote: It's one of the best comedy's I've ever seen! I hope the injured die in hospital. Oh and I wanna see the look on the parents face when they tell 'em their son/daughter died, that'll be priceless!!!

oh, your cool.

At 4/16/07 07:07 PM, Grammer wrote: Did you really have to put me down for only typing that two times? Yeah, I'm willing to bet you were hurt by this, but who says I can't post in this thread because I wasn't?

That hurts, really.

I didn't 'put you down.' I expressed that your point has been duly noted and that it does not need repeated. Are you adding anything on topic or relevant anymore? Not really. So, do stop posting because all you are doing is starting to stir up shit that doesn't need started. Thanks.

In case you mised it because it's moving so fast, shooter's livejournal.
His most recent entry is astoundingly clever.

At 4/16/07 07:01 PM, RacistBassist wrote:

At 4/16/07 06:59 PM, stafffighter wrote: 2. Yes he did that much damage with handguns. This says that you don't need machine guns to kill lots of people so you plain don't need them.

The sad thing is that he had to reload and security didn't get any shots in

They couldn't do that because they were hiding outside of the buildings in defensive positions for basically the whole ordeal. This was Columbine all over again except at a much higher degree. The cops just sat outside and allowed the gunman time to prey on his victims because that is what the usual doctrine entails. But it makes no sense to do that because usually cops are supposed to cordon the area in order to contain the criminal, but allow for negotiations. But that doesn't work when the criminal's entire motive is to kill as many people as possible and end their own life.

What the cops should have done was immediately assail the gunman to end it as fast as possible.

At 4/16/07 07:04 PM, BigScizot wrote:

At 4/16/07 06:18 PM, Der-Ubermensch wrote: Nice way to celebrate the assault weapon's ban.

What's that supposed to mean?

I'm thinking that he meant what a nice way to celebrate the absence of the assault weapons ban. Even though the weapons used today wouldn't even have been banned under the Clinton AWB anyway.

I completely understand why these things are done, and was close to doing one myself a while back. I won't get into it though, because some asshole who thimks he knows everything is garunteed to oppose me. Anyway, I hate that things had to come down to this, and me condolences go out to those involved.

Such a waste of life.

22 people who hadn't even grown up to see life for all it could be worth. I know deaths happen all over the World every day, so before anyone goes off on a tangent about that, forget it.

Isn't it actually against the law not to have a fire arm in Virginia? It's friggin crazy that people are actually able to bare arms so freely. It's like fighting fire with fire. Although futile, I hope this never happens again.

My deepest sympathies to the families of those lost in such a needless, tragic way.

At 4/16/07 07:02 PM, NoLifeLeft wrote: Eyewitnesses claim that he was an Asian male in his twenties

I can't wait for more stereotypes. >.<

At 4/16/07 07:07 PM, Grammer wrote: I'm not trying to be nonchalant about this to seem cool, I don't feel anything from this story because I can't feel anything. That doesn't mean I shouldn't put my own two cents in, though.

Didn't say you were trying to act nonchalant, although my wording probably implied it and for that I apologise. Besides that, it doesn't seem like you have a lot to offer to the thread besides your nonchalance, and repeatedly stating as such is even less helpful.

In what way could I possibly be a troll. So I'm not affected by this story, I can't post here?

The definition of a troll is someone who posts deliberately offensive or challenging posts with the intention of causing arguments. Look, when you keep saying "I'm not affected by this", it flies in the face of the other people who post here who ARE somewhat affected by this. That's why I said your argument makes you look like a troll.

Plus it hasn't been that long since the incident, so we're better off saying nothing at all if we have nothing sympathetic to say. People are still torn up by Columbine and 9/11 so it's a dodgy issue.

Is this like, the fucking trendy thing to do? Is shooting up schools fucking hip? If i wanna be kewl, I gotta fucking kill random innocent students? What the fuck? Just, WHAT. THE. FUCK? I don't fucking get these people at all, but I hope they burn in the pits of the Hell I don't believe in, for it.

Is it just me or does it seem like Grammer simply must have the last word in this discussion?

At 4/16/07 07:11 PM, Owsley wrote: In case you mised it because it's moving so fast, shooter's livejournal.
His most recent entry is astoundingly clever.

That's creepy...

What i don't understand is how 30something is the WORST shooting spree massacre thing in American history. I was thinking today in lecture that, out of the 170 people in the room, if I pulled out an automatic I could hit at least 80. How do they only kill 30 people.

I do not condone killing.

That's horrible.

At 4/16/07 07:17 PM, BigScizot wrote: Is it just me or does it seem like Grammer simply must have the last word in this discussion?

I was like that too, the last word.