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At 4/17/07 10:57 PM, SUPADUDE111 wrote:

At 4/17/07 10:52 PM, SenorPresidente wrote:

At 4/17/07 10:50 PM, SUPADUDE111 wrote:

oh yeah, 1 asian goes crazy so we should blame all of them, thats the right idea. grow up, this kindof thing shouldnt have jokes about it.

lol @ u

why, because your an insensitive bitch?

sarcasm sir, sarcasm

At 4/17/07 11:06 PM, RacistBassist wrote:

At 4/17/07 10:51 PM, QcStorm wrote:

At 4/17/07 08:30 PM, FireDart wrote: I think the body count is at 32.

Terrorist : 31

Counter-Terrorist: 0

Terrorists win.

You did it wrong fur fag

No way, he even remembered to take off a point for the suicide.

do you guys have any jokes about it yet

At 4/17/07 11:05 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: and you guys should really change your constitution... fucking morons with guns... good job...

It happens in countries with different gun laws, too. Motor accidents cause more fatalities here than guns do, IIRC. It's the 'moron with gun' you should be angry at. Not a body of government.

At 4/17/07 11:54 PM, Earfetish wrote: do you guys have any jokes about it yet

I've heard a couple stupid anagrams of the guys name, like 'HI! I chose gun!' which isn't even correct because it's missing a 'u.' Other than that, no jokes yet. At least not any good ones.

At 4/17/07 06:21 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: stuffles, yo

I agree that people on campus should be able to bear firearms (staff). The dawson shooting last October(?) could have been prevented if campus guards could have done more. In situations like this... it is appropriate. In a way I think both Canada and America need looser yet tighter gun laws.

Canada doesn't have the same gun problems or crime rate that America does, so obviously America is in need to review gun laws more. As the owner of 4 guns (well, one being my remmington, others being my parents).

i blame gun problems on minorities

VTEC YO!

This asian kid was a fucking BEAST.

Compare it to Columbine:

HE DID TWICE AS MUCH WITH HALF THE MANPOWER.

This guy is a fucking GOD.

SHIVA O SHIVA

We should all be impressed at his prowess with firearms. Respect.

At 4/18/07 12:18 AM, SenorPresidente wrote: i blame gun problems on minorities

I blame it on the French.

Fuck you, french. And not just the 'French' French, but the Quebec French too.

Seriously, if it weren't for your attitudes we wouldn't be in this mess. >:C

At 4/17/07 11:54 PM, Maus wrote:

At 4/17/07 11:05 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: and you guys should really change your constitution... fucking morons with guns... good job...

It happens in countries with different gun laws, too. Motor accidents cause more fatalities here than guns do, IIRC. It's the 'moron with gun' you should be angry at. Not a body of government.

I agree almost in full with what you are saying; however, this is the bit that's got me and I don't feel has been or could be mentioned enough: what about the environment that raised this person? It is true that some personality is hereditary. It is true that he refused help, but there had to have been something social in the environment to tip him towards this kind of action. I'm not saying it was video games, even if they are part of the cause. What about the people around him? His parents? The kids who he interacted with in high school, elementary?

Obviously, you can't blame them entirely for him bring a gun to school and shooting people, but I do feel that there is something wrong with our society that we are creating people like this, or at least socially pushing them towards this kind of behavour.

We don't know why he did it yet, but I have a feeling that this runs much deeper into his past than what we see on the surface. While this explosion of hate from him appears to be the biggest problem, and while we will all focus on what the government should do, or what the school should do, or what the police should do, I think the real problem that needs to be solved is somewhere much closer to home in the way each of us interacts with each other.

That and society presents pretty fucked up models that succeptable people fall into, a lot.

Some ass hole just posted 2 flashes (had nothign to do with the title which had somethign to do with the school). Both got blammed extremely fast for his comments about the victims and how they should burn in hell... How can anyone be such a fuckwad?

God bless those who were killed and may the student who killed everyone suffer greatly in the pits of hell.

At 4/17/07 11:05 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Another loner who may have get bullied or laugh at in high school or even at university started to fire on other kids...

and you guys should really change your constitution... fucking morons with guns... good job...

Oh shush, there have been quite a few school shootings in your country as well, and especially in your Province of Quebec.

Educate yourself:

The École Polytechnique Massacre in which 14 people were killed.

The Concordia University Massacre in which 4 people were killed.

The Dawson College shooting in which 2 people were killed and a bunch critically wounded.

Then theres the school shootings in other western countries such as:

The Erfert Shooting in which 18 people were killed.

The Dunblane Massacre in Scotland in which 17 people were killed.

I could go on...

Some of these shootings were worse than Columbine, but have you ever even heard about any of them? Probably not, because people like you in your hypocritical society just love to focus all of your attention on the US. You like to ignore your own problems, and overemphasize the bad in the US to further your inferiority complex and boost your irrational political bias.

So maybe you should focus on your own gun problems considering Montreal has been a huge gun violence hotspot, even by American standards. Maybe look inwards at your own society and culture instead of sticking your snooty French Canadian nose in our business.

My brother goes there!

At 4/18/07 12:19 AM, Hierophant wrote: VTEC YO!

This asian kid was a fucking BEAST.

Compare it to Columbine:

HE DID TWICE AS MUCH WITH HALF THE MANPOWER.

This guy is a fucking GOD.

SHIVA O SHIVA

We should all be impressed at his prowess with firearms. Respect.

Nothing involved in this should be treated with respect except the people who died and those who were actually on VT campus. Things like this are just wrong to say. This is a time of mourning for others, not being a dick. And i dont care if its sarcasm.

At 4/18/07 12:17 AM, yodd wrote:

Canada doesn't have the same gun problems or crime rate that America does, so obviously America is in need to review gun laws more. As the owner of 4 guns (well, one being my remmington, others being my parents).

Yodd why don't you lurk a bit, or go to this thread in which I systematically proved that that you, and everyone else who blame this on gun laws are wrong.

I know what you're trying to do, so just shush and learn something instead of trying desperately to disagree with me as hard as you can at the expense of your own knowledge.

At 4/18/07 12:25 AM, gumOnShoe wrote: what about the environment that raised this person?

Who knows? The backgrounds of people that 'snap' and do these sorts of things is so varied that it's not something you can simply profile.

These things do happen, and always have happened. In Bath, Ohio a man blew up a schoolhouse, killing loads of kids in 1927, just to point out a single example of one of the many, many, many tragedies that history forgets. It may sound 'nutty' but the more people we cram on this planet, the more likely we are to have people amongst us with the propensity to snap, and also more people in the vicinity to be potential victims.

At 4/18/07 12:30 AM, SUPADUDE111 wrote:

Nothing involved in this should be treated with respect except the people who died and those who were actually on VT campus. Things like this are just wrong to say. This is a time of mourning for others, not being a dick. And i dont care if its sarcasm.

oh shut up, like stated before. do you mourn everyday? because children are killed this way everday in the middle east and other third world countires. seriously if someone isn't directly connected to his and have no sentiments towards these people the what do they have to mourn about. gtfo

yea there are no problems even when you can buy guns at pawn shops

not hunting guns, guns you use to protect yourself from those statistics, those people who arent american, minorities etc

Man that really sucks for the families that lost realatives and the people that were involved in this .I hope people that are from ng that go there are ok.

At 4/18/07 12:31 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: I know what you're trying to do, so just shush and learn something instead of trying desperately to disagree with me as hard as you can at the expense of your own knowledge.

Your pathetic, all you do is look for any pathetic excuse to flame me. As I even so stated "I think America and Canada should loosen gun laws, especially for workers of jobs like this" (summarized). I also said they need to loosen guns, and make them more tight.

I know what you're trying to do. Going to pointless flames to try and actually win a debate at some point, even one where I mostly AGREE with you in which I said in my post that I AGREE. All that to make you look good. Keep the alter-ego, have tons of fun laughing at it.

At 4/18/07 12:37 AM, yodd wrote:

At 4/18/07 12:31 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: I know what you're trying to do, so just shush and learn something instead of trying desperately to disagree with me as hard as you can at the expense of your own knowledge.

Your pathetic, all you do is look for any pathetic excuse to flame me. As I even so stated "I think America and Canada should loosen gun laws, especially for workers of jobs like this" (summarized). I also said they need to loosen guns, and make them more tight.

I know what you're trying to do. Going to pointless flames to try and actually win a debate at some point, even one where I mostly AGREE with you in which I said in my post that I AGREE. All that to make you look good. Keep the alter-ego, have tons of fun laughing at it.

It is a proven fact that when you lose an argument that you have to start flaming people and disregard any of their major points. As cellardoor6 clearly is doing.

Maus for the love of God... please do something about the intentional flame provocation from Yodd and Racist Bassist. They aren't even talking about the issue, they just resorted entire posts to attack me personally.

Mod intervention would be nice so I don't get banned 10 posts from now for simply replying to them.

At 4/18/07 12:38 AM, RacistBassist wrote: It is a proven fact that when you lose an argument that you have to start flaming people and disregard any of their major points. As cellardoor6 clearly is doing.

Exactly, I have beat him in the past, and made him mad at me... thus meaing he pointlessly flames. Kind of sad really.

What what?

At 4/18/07 12:44 AM, yodd wrote: What what?

yea dude kill yourself

i mean thats against my religion, oo wait i can manipulate that to my liking, so kill your self

At 4/18/07 12:43 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Maus for the love of God... please do something about the intentional flame provocation from Yodd and Racist Bassist. They aren't even talking about the issue, they just resorted entire posts to attack me personally.

I can't wait for all this angry tension to turn into passionate love making one day! Eh? Eh!?

But seriously...

At 4/18/07 12:50 AM, Warrickneff wrote:

But seriously...

i love that 'wah' facial expression.. its the most photo genetic or w.e

I am done flaming as I am showing immaturity and making a scene.

Back on topic, I was watching a few interviews and apparently he had harrased some girls over AIM and such in the past.

So he has some history of crime.

At 4/18/07 12:52 AM, unowned wrote:

At 4/18/07 12:50 AM, Warrickneff wrote:

But seriously...

i love that 'wah' facial expression.. its the most photo genetic or w.e

I tried especially hard to make sure it looked like I was genuinely concerned...haha.

At 4/18/07 12:44 AM, yodd wrote: Exactly, I have beat him in the past, and made him mad at me... thus meaing he pointlessly flames. Kind of sad really.

IT'S LIKE DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN.

POT KETTLE
do you see where i am going with this?

Stop pushing at him if you don't want shoved back. I've already asked, no - TOLD you guys to knock it the fuck off with the off topic posts towards each other. I'm moving into the realm of annoyed. Excuse me while I go have a smoke. When I check this thread again, I hope to see no more posts even mentioning this one or any more shit flames. Because that would be a total buzzkill and I'll just ban everybody.

At 4/18/07 12:58 AM, wan-tan-soup14 wrote: (although didn't the shooter move to Va from Frisco, my city?)

he must be repping another area code, yo

i heard there were loads of kids there atm, so i guess those killing would have happened even if it were shut down