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Wow, a gun collector has .22 caliber ammo. I am very surprised.

What I'm saying is, you shouldn't be saying this stuff is DEFINITE if you have no idea yet.

What you're basically doing right now is accusing this guy of killing 33 people because he's an Asian who owns guns.

At 4/16/07 09:09 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Ok, right now they are reporting that the victims were shot with a SMALLER caliber projectile in .22 caliber.

.22 or 22/100ths of an inch is equivalent roughly equivalent to 5.7mm which is the round that is fired by the FN-P90, in fact, look in the picture at that livejournal, he has a box of ammo for it.

You're not suggesting that confirms that he's the shooter are you? I mean he could be, but unless they've released it you can't just go assuming he is and stating that all of those gun are his and therefore he probably didn't use two handguns.

Damn he got 32 people. This rules out Columbine as the biggest school shooting.

32 killed. i feel fucking sick.

At 4/16/07 09:08 PM, jacktherack wrote: read the fucking post by wade

People are lazy.

LMAO @ Virginia Tech insedent.

At 4/16/07 07:37 PM, ShitOnAStick wrote: I don't understand this need to take out shit on schools?

If it isn't school, it's the workplace.

More and more, people are acting out in this manner in both places. My place of work had a hostage/shooting situation a couple years ago before I worked there.

At 4/16/07 03:09 PM, Snake-Arsenic wrote: Imagine one of those moments when you wanted to kill someone, even as a passing thought.

Now imagine being stuck in that moment, the feelings building up. Sometime slowly, sometimes fast or even fluctuating, but never going away. You are stuck in that moment for years and every time a similar moment happens it suddenly gets intensified.

A person can only take so much until it becomes real, dominating every thought. The planning and the preparation starts and goes on until it is completed, despite your strongest objections. Then you pick your time, your place, and it finally becomes perfect. This is the moment you've been waiting for. The feelings are never at their peak, but are suddenly stronger than ever.

You wait for the conditions to be right, the planned day may fail and you do nothing except wait for the next until it's right, perfect in every way. Just what you wanted.

This is a moment that can not be denied.

I hope that gives you an insight into one kind of obsession and to what some of these people may be thinking. Just remember that it's not always a "fuck the world" attitude or even anger that drives it and that copycats are usually because the person knows it will work.

Everybody, its ok. I found the guy that did it. Now we all have someone to blame. People like this let it happen to them, there is help for people like them, anonymous, and school counselors. They could have seeked help. People don't realize this, and they feel sympathy for them. Well, I'm sure the people who died agree with me.

At 4/16/07 09:12 PM, Elfer wrote: Wow, a gun collector has .22 caliber ammo. I am very surprised.

What I'm saying is, you shouldn't be saying this stuff is DEFINITE if you have no idea yet.

What you're basically doing right now is accusing this guy of killing 33 people because he's an Asian who owns guns.

I'm just doing some investigative work because I'm bored and it's exciting. Because they are still all confused about the weapons he used. There is a dilemma because both 9mm and .22 wounds were inflicted.

The pistol in that picture is Taurus chambered in 40 S&W which is roughly equivalent to the metric 9mm in projectile diameterand is almost indistinguishable when looking at wounds alone, especially when the projectile is deformed when hitting a medium like human body.

But had also been wounded with .22 caliber projectile, but some people are thinking it is a .22lr cartridge which is NO WHERE NEAR powerful enough to have dropped that many people like that, but the 5.7x28mm round that the P90 shoots is much more deadly.

But alternatively, the M4 Carbine/AR-15 rifle that is in the picture fires the 5.56x45mm NATO round which is the metric designation for the .223 Remington round which is also very close to both the 5.7 and .22lr in projectile diameter.

At 4/16/07 09:16 PM, Net-terrorist wrote: Damn he got 32 people. This rules out Columbine as the biggest school shooting.

Columbine was never the 'biggest school shooting.' The biggest school shooting was in 1966, perpetrated by Charles Whitman.

At 4/16/07 09:20 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: I'm just doing some investigative work because I'm bored and...

33 PEOPLE DIED YOU ASSHOLE! NO ONE FUCKING GIVES A RATS ASS ABOUT THE CALIBER OF THE BULLETS UNLESS YOU'RE THE FUCKING POLICE! TAKE YOUR NATIVIST WAYS AND SPEND TIME IN JAPAN WHY DON'T YOU?

Argh.

At 4/16/07 09:23 PM, BatDan wrote:

Argh.

My thoughts exactly.

This is the "look at cellardoor6 thread."

At 4/16/07 09:16 PM, Illegal-Product wrote: LMAO @ Virginia Tech insedent.

Another one.

At 4/16/07 09:22 PM, Hycran wrote: You say im sick for being insensitive, but how sick can i be in comparison to you, seeing as you seem to know so much about guns you have no real need to use? dipshit.

You moron, firearms are my occupation. I am a gun technician, I modify, repair, and maintain firearms for a living, and I am currently studying for a degree in Military Science as well.

This is my forte.

It has nothing to do with being "sick" considering firearms don't murder people, only crazed lunatics do. You're one of those people that just think all firearms are bad right, because you were taught in school to demonize them?

At 4/16/07 01:12 PM, Mr-Pope wrote: Apparently one of the dead students was the new boyfriend of the shooter's ex-girlfriend. Anyone back this up?

Pretty fucked up if it was a revenge attack/jealousy

Well from that asians journal thing.

20 March 2007 @ 05:22 am
And so the cycling begins...

Me & Janice broke up...

Probably isn't even him, going to bed anyway.

At 4/16/07 09:26 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: You're one of those people that just think all firearms are bad right, because you were taught in school to demonize them?

No, he's probably just tired of reading endless conjecture that serves no real purpose. :o

It's interesting to YOU, but for 99% of the readers, its a space filler and eyes begin to glaze over. The topic is the shooting, and guns are parallel to that but it's a stretch. I try not to blather on about marketing trends and product branding even when its mildly relevant because i know it'd bore the tits off most people.

At 4/16/07 09:25 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

At 4/16/07 09:16 PM, Illegal-Product wrote: LMAO @ Virginia Tech insedent.

Another one.

Damn you're on fire today!

At 4/16/07 09:30 PM, Maus wrote: i know it'd bore the tits off most people.

And Maus hates falling-off tits.

Sadly, if the Government out right bans guns, it'd not only be a sign of weakness, but it'd piss gun fanatics off, probably stir up more shootings out of examples. Problem with school shootings is that these idiots don't write down why they did this. This don't put a letter in a plastic bag in their person saying why they did this.

We may never know why these sickos do this.

Death toll is now 33. Horray they made history--it's officially the deadliest shooting in US history.

At 4/16/07 09:36 PM, packow wrote: Death toll is now 33. Horray they made history--it's officially the deadliest shooting in US history.

what held the previous record?

At 4/16/07 09:30 PM, Maus wrote:

At 4/16/07 09:26 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: You're one of those people that just think all firearms are bad right, because you were taught in school to demonize them?

No, he's probably just tired of reading endless conjecture that serves no real purpose. :o

It actually serves a lot of purpose because they are still determining the guns that were used, they still don't even know if it was 1 or 2 shooters, and the guns that were used that inflicted the wounds, vs. the guns that were found haven't been positively matched yet. So I think it's interesting because I matched the guns in the picture of the person people thought was the shooter, with the descriptions of the gunshot wounds.

It's interesting to YOU, but for 99% of the readers, its a space filler and eyes begin to glaze over. The topic is the shooting, and guns are parallel to that but it's a stretch.

It's not just about guns, I'm not trying to educate people about guns. I just gave as much detail as I could so that people who did want to know about it would.

I try not to blather on about marketing trends and product branding even when its mildly relevant because i know it'd bore the tits off most people.

Well damn, sorry that I felt like sharing something that other people might find interesting and relevant. I didn't know that people's distaste for me would cause them to refuse to hear anything I say even if it actually is entirely applicable to the situation.

But I digress, I'll stop.

At 4/16/07 09:39 PM, HAcoreRD wrote:

At 4/16/07 09:36 PM, packow wrote: Death toll is now 33. Horray they made history--it's officially the deadliest shooting in US history.

what held the previous record?

Many people think it's Columbine, but according to Maus it's the University of Texas, and she's right, University of Texas had 16, Columbine had 15.

At 4/16/07 09:39 PM, HAcoreRD wrote:

At 4/16/07 09:36 PM, packow wrote: Death toll is now 33. Horray they made history--it's officially the deadliest shooting in US history.

what held the previous record?

I think the whitman thing, I didn't read this article too carefully

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vtech.shooti ng/index.html

At 4/16/07 09:39 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: I didn't know that people's distaste for me would cause them to refuse to hear anything I say even if it actually is entirely applicable to the situation.

*sigh*

It's not YOU. It's the subject matter, like I just said. Yes, it's relevant, but no-one's interested.

HAcoreRD - I posted the link to the deadliest shooting on the previous page. Or Google 'Charles Whitman'.

Flagged couple of flashes related to this incident.

See, this is the reason why every student should be equiped with a gun.

Joking aside, this just sucks really.

Nothing you can do to stop it, it just happens.

One must wonder why the shooter did it?

32 dead college assholes, good game shooter, you're my new hero.

At 4/16/07 09:54 PM, Slinging-Blood wrote: 32 dead college assholes, good game shooter, you're my new hero.

Latest one.