At 5/17/03 03:00 AM, OSC wrote:
Doesn't harm any kids doesn't get me to think such porn is ok to be legal. The thought that legalizing it would send off the idea that there's encouragement for illegal activity. The Japan statistics is misleading. I'm not saying it's inaccurate, but the use of that stat is to make believe American and Japanese mindsets are identical. Or so that's how I interpreted it. The Japanese mindset can handle such material and be disiplined enough not to let it distort reality. The American mindset cannot handle it. It's all in the culture, I think.
OK. I understand that. ^_^ But I was more concerned with how you feel legalizing fake porn will do to the real kiddie porn industry? Do you think it will take away some of their business or not?
I wasn't saying that "fake porn" should be legal because "it doesn't hurt anyone." I was saying that if it's legal, then it might take away from the real porn business and that it will actually cause less kids to be hurt. So it's not a matter of "not hurting someone" it's more a matter of "saving someone." I'm still unsure about how this would affect the businesses myself, so that's why I was asking people what they think.
Also, people just looking at this type of porn and even thinking it's "OK," isn't my concern, since there will always be people like this anyway. I'm more concerned with what it will do to the kiddie porn businesses.
After all, even if "more" people start looking at fake kiddie porn if it becomes legal, if even a few real kids are saved from the real kiddie porn industry because of this then I would think that was worth it. After all, the main results would be that at least some kids won't be harmed in the kiddie porn world (which is the most important result to me).
Even if some more freaks go looking at fake child porn than before, then I wouldn't be too concerned about that. Honestly, even though these people are freaks, few of them actually go out and start molesting kids themselves, which I know is common belief. Usually, the ones that do that are serious pediphiles, who have dangerous issues.
Just because you're "interested in looking at it" doesn't mean that you'd actually go out and do it.
I mean, think about it for a moment. You don't have to be a pedophile to look at young girl porn. Often times, a kid is just "thrown in the mix" in a porn junkies diet.
This is one reason that these illegal businesses do so well.
I mean, go on Limewire or Kazaa or something sometimes. Half the porn that pops up is adult......and half of it is child porn (or "lolitta" porn)!!! That means that the number of children being used in porn could be higher than we think.
And more importantly, for that big a number of people to be uploading and downloading that material, says one thing: strict pedophiles aren't the only ones who are doing it!
Putting fake kiddie porn on the market to compete with real kiddie porn may hopefully sway some of these individuals into that instead of the real stuff (which would cause the real kiddie porn business to drop, and would hopefully result in less kids being harmed).
And if you think that no one would prefer looking at fake porn over real porn, look at how well the hentai business is doing, even in America.
Now, if we pass laws that say fake or drawn porn is legal, but using real kids is wrong and you can still go to prison for it, do you still think that people will think that even real kiddie porn is OK? I'm not sure.
What about anime hentai versus real porn? Just look at some NG ads for examples of that. Do you think that anime hentai is just as damaging as real porn?
Basically, I just want to know how you think putting "fake porn" (both child and adult) on the market affects the real porn business. Do you think it takes away from it at all? Do you think some people will start focusing at least half their attention to the fake stuff instead of having 100% on the real stuff if we made it legal?