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Proteas, you are my idol... would be if i idolized people, but i still consider you a Political Forum Hero!

If you hate christianity that bad, move to pretty much any Islamic Theocracy, they ban all other religions, including christianity.

I find it amazing that people make topic after topic all with the same flaming. kinda like when Israel went in and started tearing up Lebanon and killing off Hezbollah troops. we saw, what, 5 topics a day on the matter?

of course, most "debates" on NGs turn into flame wars... and all discussions do.

At 4/11/07 02:28 PM, Proteas wrote: *raises hand*

Yeah, I don't care who answers this just so long as I get an answer. Why is it that on this forum, you can EASILY bring up the search bar and find any one of the over 1400 religion christianity, bible, and Jesus topics to bump and post in, yet you whiny little assholes KEEP FUCKING MAKING NEW TOPICS ABOUT THE SAME DAMN THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN?!

You know what? I'm not apposed to making an official religion topic anymore! Because at this point, I'd love to send several dozen of you little shits off on vacations from the BBS so you can quit bogging down this place with the same tired old "TEH BIBLE SUXXORZ LOLZ" topics, and we can get BACK to discussing real issues!

Proteas, I didn't make this topic to diss the bible, I made it as a discussion thread for the Dr. Laura letter and the West Wing video. Of course Dre-Man and Memorize just decided to ignore that and just directly attack me instead without making a coherent argument for their side. Dre even started a thread pretending I had written the Dr. Laura letter (which I didn't). Also ignored the fact that I admitted the title was stupid.

At 4/11/07 07:31 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote:

Of course Dre-Man and Memorize just decided to ignore that and just directly attack me instead without making a coherent argument for their side.

Because you lumped every christian religion into one which is near impossible.

If anyone even cared to actually look at what I said instead of assuming I'm dissing all Christians , maybe they would find that what I said was directed toward the small sect of Christians that interpret the entire Bible as infallible and law, but instead you guys assume I'm trying to insult you. =\ If you had read the entirety of what I said, Korriken, Dre-Man and Memorize, you would have found that I wasn't even talking about you at all, because I'm not talking about Christians who only go by the New Testament.

Maybe you guys just think it's more fun to start a flame war.

At 4/11/07 08:31 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote:

Maybe you guys just think it's more fun to start a flame war.

Since the other stuff is really just copy and paste, allow me to copy and paste your post:

"A common reasoning for prejudice against homosexuality is that the bible forbids it. But what I'm curious as to is that if you wish to follow the Bible that closely, why aren't you observing the OTHER laws that Leviticus and the other books of the Old Testament describes?

Now for some of you guys this letter that circulated around for a while might be considered older than dirt, but I'm guessing there's a fair amount of people here who haven't seen it."

I didn't read a single thing of you claiming that you weren't.

At 4/11/07 08:40 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 4/11/07 08:31 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote:

Maybe you guys just think it's more fun to start a flame war.

Since the other stuff is really just copy and paste, allow me to copy and paste your post:

"A common reasoning for prejudice against homosexuality is that the bible forbids it. But what I'm curious as to is that if you wish to follow the Bible that closely, why aren't you observing the OTHER laws that Leviticus and the other books of the Old Testament describes?

Now for some of you guys this letter that circulated around for a while might be considered older than dirt, but I'm guessing there's a fair amount of people here who haven't seen it."

I didn't read a single thing of you claiming that you weren't.

Claiming I wasn't what? Talking to all Christians? If I didn't say it was directed toward the bible-thumpers (aka the people who take it ALL literally and as law) I didn't say that I was only talking to I'm saying it now.

At 4/11/07 08:58 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote:

Claiming I wasn't what? Talking to all Christians? If I didn't say it was directed toward the bible-thumpers (aka the people who take it ALL literally and as law) I didn't say that I was only talking to I'm saying it now.

You didn't make any distinction.

At 4/11/07 09:09 PM, Memorize wrote: You didn't make any distinction.

you'd think the title would mean something.

At 4/11/07 09:12 PM, SolInvictus wrote:

you'd think the title would mean something.

You'd think the title was a anti-religous slap to the face.

At 4/11/07 09:15 PM, Memorize wrote: You'd think the title was a anti-religous slap to the face.

to anyone other than moderates i assume it would be as it is directed at them.

At 4/11/07 09:16 PM, SolInvictus wrote:

to anyone other than moderates i assume it would be as it is directed at them.

Haha, fucking moron.

At 4/11/07 09:20 PM, Memorize wrote: Haha, fucking moron.

very well said.

At 4/11/07 09:25 PM, SolInvictus wrote:

very well said.

I'm sorry, I just can't over how stupid you people are. haha!

At 4/11/07 09:15 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 4/11/07 09:12 PM, SolInvictus wrote:

you'd think the title would mean something.

You'd think the title was a anti-religous slap to the face.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_thumper

Bible thumper (also Bible basher, or Bible Beater) is a derisive term used to describe Christian fundamentalists, or anyone perceived as aggressively pushing their religious beliefs upon those who do not share them.

Bible Thumper =/= All Christians

At 4/11/07 09:48 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote:

Bible Thumper =/= All Christians

No d'uh. But just because I call someone a Bastard doesn't necessarily mean he's the literal difinition.

At 4/11/07 09:48 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote: Bible Thumper =/= All Christians

but thats not possible you atheist anti-religion faggot!

Everyone needs to calm down or shut the fuck up.

He's not attacking "all Christians". Read the damn ass title. Stop bitching about that and move on to the content of his thread.

Wankers.

PS: Proteas, I agree, I think its overdue that we make an "Official" Religion topic. With your permission, may I? Or should a mod do it?

At 4/11/07 08:31 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote: If anyone even cared to actually look at what I said instead of assuming I'm dissing all Christians , maybe they would find that what I said was directed toward the small sect of Christians that interpret the entire Bible as infallible and law, but instead you guys assume I'm trying to insult you. =\ If you had read the entirety of what I said, Korriken, Dre-Man and Memorize, you would have found that I wasn't even talking about you at all, because I'm not talking about Christians who only go by the New Testament.

Virtually all Christians believe that the fundamental principles that inspired the Old Testament Law should still be observed, even though they may disregard the exact letter of the law itself. What you seemed to do was equate the view that the principles are still valid to the view that the exact letter of the law was still valid, thus misrepresenting the belief of the vast majority of Christians. So, IMO the topic does diss most Christians, but only with an erroneous equation of different viewpoints.

Yeah, on the front page alone I counted between 8 and 10 threads (depending on which ones you count) religion-related threads. TOO MANY!

At 4/11/07 10:21 PM, reviewer-general wrote: Yeah, on the front page alone I counted between 8 and 10 threads (depending on which ones you count) religion-related threads. TOO MANY!

There are many different subtopics relating to religion, so it only makes sense for there to be various threads discussing them. A single religion thread could turn into a huge mess.

"So, IMO the topic does diss most Christians, but only with an erroneous equation of different viewpoints."

I'm dissing them by questioning why certain principles are followed and others are not?

At 4/11/07 11:35 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote: I'm dissing them by questioning why certain principles are followed and others are not?

Well, I was just trying to use your language there as you used that word in your post. Though, I do not feel dissed, just misrepresented.

Everything you have stated just adds more power to the truth. The Bible is a great big joke, and I'm not laughing.

At 4/11/07 09:48 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote: Bible Thumper =/= All Christians

Yes, because Bible Thumpers are so well represented on this forum.

Pull your head out of your ass. Do you seriosuly expect me - or anyone else for that matter - to believe that you wrote a topic for the sole purpose of questioning the principles a group of people that isn't even represented on here? Who the hell did you expect to answer your questions, hm? JERRY FALWELL?

At 4/11/07 11:35 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote: There are many different subtopics relating to religion, so it only makes sense for there to be various threads discussing them.

That is no excuse for crapping up the forum with multiple topics about the same subject. We don't tolerate it for topics about President Bush, Abortion, Gun Control, or any other current event, why should we tolerate it for religion?

A single religion thread could turn into a huge mess.

One person's opinion, and it doesn't surprise me that it's coming from the person who MADE this topic in particular.

At 4/10/07 11:50 PM, Dre-Man wrote: I love it at how you nitpick at tiny little verses, manipulate them to your own idiotic understanding, and then call other people hypocrites when they say you're wrong.

I could say the same thing for all the bible thumpers and pastors out there.

At 4/10/07 06:46 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote:
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

No, for they shall be punished in time.

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

It depends on several factors. How old, good-looking, strong, smart, pure, etc.

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

Just be sure to know the procedure to cleanse thyself if you make a mistake. Also, train your nose to pick up the odor.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

Canada is basically now part of America.

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

No, you have the option of bringing the matter to the priest for him to decide who, when, where, etc.

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

It is possible since homosexuality is reinforced in other parts of the Bible, such as the destruction of Sodom.

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

As long the stuff you can see SHOULD be what people can see, you are fine. If you are having hallucinations, than no.

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

Once, again, ask the priest. If he seems unwilling, perhaps you should let your friends know of the law, for if they are ignorant, they don't have to die as long as they cease the activity. If not, than stones work pretty well.

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

Yes, although many footballs today are not made of pigs anymore, so you should be safe in that department.

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

Burning, no. A private family stoning would be acceptable however.

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

At 4/12/07 01:25 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 4/11/07 09:48 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote: Bible Thumper =/= All Christians

Yes, because Bible Thumpers are so well represented on this forum.

Pull your head out of your ass. Do you seriosuly expect me - or anyone else for that matter - to believe that you wrote a topic for the sole purpose of questioning the principles a group of people that isn't even represented on here? Who the hell did you expect to answer your questions, hm? JERRY FALWELL?

Fair enough. I thought that some people might enjoy the Dr. Laura letter and the West Wing video though.

At 4/11/07 11:35 PM, SyntheticTacos wrote: There are many different subtopics relating to religion, so it only makes sense for there to be various threads discussing them.

That is no excuse for crapping up the forum with multiple topics about the same subject. We don't tolerate it for topics about President Bush, Abortion, Gun Control, or any other current event, why should we tolerate it for religion?

In my opinion religion is a much wider topic than those current events, but you're the mod here so it's your prerogative o' course. :)

A single religion thread could turn into a huge mess.

One person's opinion, and it doesn't surprise me that it's coming from the person who MADE this topic in particular.

That's true.