The Newgrounds Occult Society

[BaronVonBadGuy]

This is a group for everyone interested in anything involing occult, (be it modern or otherwise) teachings. This includes all forms of Magick and everything occult, Chaos Magick, Thelema, The Hermetic Order of The Golden Dawn, Witchcraft, Kabbalah, Satanism, and pretty much everything else occult.

To give you a brief introduction into Modern Magick, here is a short essay I wrote on the subject;

It seems to me that the most powerful magick would be performed during ones death. An act capable of reaching beyond the limits of time, past, present and future. This is, in theory, because you have reached a profound state of no mind, a state of zero, of absence. Zero has no beginning and no end. It is beyond, infinite, and therefore capable of influencing our finite reality. When we lose touch with the ego, we get a smaller form of zero, capable of manipulating our reality. Pulling the rabbit out of the endless hat of absence.

We also get closer to the collective unconscious, one of the vessels magick works through. Think of the collective unconscious as the same musical note all consciousness is set to. It is the most basic, core form of consciousness which we are all united by. Using sigils, made by writing out a desire, eliminating all repeating characters, (I.E. I will to have sex becomes, Iwltohavesx) then making the remaining letters into a design, focusing on said sigil while in a state of no mind, sends it deep down into the subconscious, where it can manifest itself, and pull into the collective unconscious. There are many ways to achieve a state of no mind, some include drugs such as marijuana (see Marijuana Magick to be posted soon) meditation, any emotion so long as it is intense, and of course, during dreams, once one gains control of them. Many believe that it is when the desire has been forgotten, that the magick works best. It is much easier to forget a magicakal act performed in a dream than it is in real life, which is why I recommend attempting to gain control of your dreams. I've noticed just having the desire to do so is usually enough to grant you the privilege half of the time.

Last paragraph omitted for my strong personal bias against certain forms of magick.

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I recommend everyone interested enough to check out, and read some articles on http://iota.goetia.net/

I also strongly suggest, you learn more about Austin Osman Spare and his form of magick. Here is a link to some of his works. They can be a hard read.

Also, for the serious student, I recommend starting by picking up the following books;

Petter J. Carroll's, Liber Null and Psychonaut
Phil Hine's, Condensed Chaos
Phil Hine's, The Pseudonomicon (Even if your not huge on lovecraft, some really great ideas in this book.)
The Disinformation Guide To The Occult
Generation Hex
Austin Osman Spare's, Ethos
Aliester Crowley's, Book Four (Book 1 of book four being the chapter most worth reading, unless you are interested in Thelema.)
Aliester Crowley's, The Book Of The Law

I would like to start an alliance with another fine group here on Newgrounds, The NG Wiccan and Pagan Crew. I suggest joining their club as well.

Any questions welcomed.

Hre is an example of a sigil:

[BaronVonBadGuy]

Who ever said Magick can't be fun is an idiot.
Here is another essay I wrote not too long ago entitled, Marijuana Magick;

It must be stated that I can not legally advocate the use of illegal substances, this article is purely in the name knowledge. I do not encourage you to break any laws of any kind, and I am not to be held responsible for any consequences, legal or otherwise, you may experience from acting on what I have written.

That being said, onto the topic.

Building up an amazing high;

First off, it should be said that the participant be completely relaxed in as many manners as possible, giving the marijuana ample room for domination. Allow every aspect of the marijuana to manifest itself in you without resistance. Be as a lifeless puppet granted a spark of existence from this wonderful plant. Every time you take a hit, hold it in for at the very least, 45 seconds, preferable 1-2 minutes, but if your lungs are not usually capable of holding the breath in for long durations of time, 45 seconds should suffice. As you hold it in, allow it to build up, raising your consciousness to another level, allowing for a most wondrous release. When you release the smoke, picture it as a sort of divine orgasm, an ejaculation of smoke. It is also recommended, that between hits, the participant should breath in deeply through the nose, and fully release from the mouth, allowing a few seconds in between inhale and exhale to hold the breath in. This helps to manifest a completely relaxed state, as well as a good means for recovering oxygen from holding in hits.

Exploring the subconscious realm via hallucinations;

Now, after substantial marijuana consumption, pay attention to the eyes. There are three methods for cultivating hallucinations. 1) The eyes should be very relaxed, set far apart from one another in direction. It is around where the pupil is not directly focused that the hallucination will usually manifest. 2) Alternatively continuously focusing the eyes in a specific direction, concentrating ones attention, can also lead to the same hallucinogenic experience. And 3) Closing the eyes completely will cause a light display of hallucinations to be projected over the black background, similar to those seen by pressing ones fingers against ones eyes while they are closed. Try doing any of these while holding in a hit for more intense and overwhelming visuals.

These hallucinations are conscious projection of your subconscious interpretation of everything around you.
It is in this state where one may find great influence and revelations from ones surroundings. Or even feel the influence of something other worldly, within, or around you.

Effective marijuana techniques for sigil projection;

You may, after many hits, find yourself rocking back and forth in a drug induced stupor for a short time after the hit is released, this is quite useful for sigil projection as it grants the participant with a state of "no mind." If this occurs to you, do not be afraid, this is a sign you are on the right path, allowing the marijuana to, in a sense, consume you. The better the marijuana, plus the room allowed for marijuana to dominate, plus the length one holds in their hits, equals the frequency of this occurrence.

To trigger a similar state of no mind,
while working with a sigil, one may pin the sigil up upon the ceiling, above ones bed. While smoking marijuana, concentrate upon the sigil, when sufficiently high, and while holding in a hit, stand up fast while maintaining direct eye contact with the sigil. You'll probably lose consciousness and find yourself thrown toward your bed. Repeat this procedure as many times as one feels necessary. This is another most excellent way for sigil projection, and is much more consciously obtainable than the latter example.

The trance states provided may also be used for automatic drawing. While in a strong trance, allow your hand to draw freely without conscious thought as to where the pen goes next. Austin Osman Spare found automatic drawing to be therapeutic, allowing the subconscious to express itself.

[Kiddmeizter]

I'd like to join.
I'm pretty interested in most of those things.

Satanism = Best lyric material EVER

[BaronVonBadGuy]

Great, welcome you two, I'm sure you'll enjoy your stay here. This club accepts all people as they are, Do What Thou Wilt, no matter what you practice, follow or do. Black and White magick are too vague of terms, many would consider black magick to be even casting a Sigil for something you strongly desire, which is just plain stupid. Knowledge and Freedom is the foundation of this group.

[BaronVonBadGuy]

At 4/9/07 06:09 PM, Asteraith wrote: I for one would not recommend using it in conjuction with ouija boards or automatic writing except by those very experienced with the phenomena.

Being under the influence is second nature to me, I find it to be a marvelous gateway regardless of your experience with the plant. I haven't attempted a LBRP or any other none mental banishing ritual in a long time and have never had ill effects. But to each his own, welcome.

[EchoRun]

Just wanted to wish you good luck with the new crew, Baron. I'll stop by to chat and join in now and then. :)

[NewGroundsElite]

i like magick its cool ya... *throwing fireballs at sexy girls* (literally FIRE BALLS!)

[Truth]

At 4/9/07 06:13 PM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote:

:Knowledge and Freedom is the foundation of this group.

That being said, Im in.
Your not gonna like me though.

[BaronVonBadGuy]

At 4/9/07 07:51 PM, EchoRun wrote: Just wanted to wish you good luck with the new crew, Baron. I'll stop by to chat and join in now and then. :)

Thanks, hopefully there are enough people on Newgrounds into this sort of thing, but I imagine most of them would be too close minded.

At 4/9/07 08:06 PM, Asteraith wrote: what are your feelings on shamanism? i personally was fascinated with the whole concept when i first got into magic theory, but the more i learn about it's actual aplications the more dissapointed i am. most so-called shamans in todays world act as witch doctors, pushing weird tribal medicine on sick people and abandoning the intense trance rituals and genuine spiritual exploration.

I find it to be as acceptable a form of magick as any of them. The use of drugs are great for exploring inner levels of consciousness, as well as feeling the profound influence of something other than you within.

At 4/9/07 08:36 PM, Truth wrote: That being said, Im in.
Your not gonna like me though.

93/93 :)

[Truth]

know of any common sigils used today?

[mrdurgan]

love is the law, love under will!

yeah sure i'll join. i've been obsessed with mr crowley's writing the last few days.

[EchoRun]

At 4/12/07 07:27 PM, Truth wrote: know of any common sigils used today?

I know about MAKING sigils. As for any 'classic' ones, if that’s what you mean, that’s not something I know about - that’s more older high Ceremonial stuff, haven't looked into that yet.

At 4/12/07 07:38 PM, mrdurgan wrote: love is the law, love under will!

yeah sure i'll join. i've been obsessed with mr crowley's writing the last few days.

"Love is the law, love under will" ... I haven't heard that one before, are you quoting that from somewhere, or did you make that one up? Can you explain it?

How long have you been interested in the occult? Admittedly I haven't read much by or on Mr Crowley, been on my to do list for a while though. How are you finding it? Aside from the obsession that is. ;)

[BaronVonBadGuy]

At 4/12/07 07 :27 PM, Truth wrote: know of any common sigils used today?

You'll have to elaborate on that one. I don't know what you mean.

At 4/12/07 07 :38 PM, mrdurgan wrote: yeah sure i'll join. i've been obsessed with mr crowley's writing the last few days.

He is a most interesting fellow, I'd recommend reading "Do What Thou Wilt, A Life Of Aleister Crowley" really great biography. Welcome.

At 4/12/07 07 :56 PM, EchoRun wrote: "Love is the law, love under will" ... I haven't heard that one before, are you quoting that from somewhere, or did you make that one up? Can you explain it?

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
Love is the law, Love under will.
There is no law beyond do what thou wilt.

This comes from Aleister Crowley's Book Of The Law his bible so to speak.

It is common for people who are Thelemite's, followers of Crowley's religion, Thelema, (the Greek word for Will" to greet each other with the phrase 93 93/93, also used to end letters sent by thelemites. Thelema has the numerical value of 93, as does Agape, which is Greek for love, together forming the law of thelema, which Crowley informs his followers to greet each other with.

I am not a Thelemite, but agree with Crowley's philosophy, and will occasionally end a message with 93 93/93 when posting in something occult related.
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A most peculiar thing happened during a "black magick ritual" or ritual intended to harm someone else which I preformed a few days ago. During launching of the sigil, I found myself shaking uncontrollably, without reason. It is of my opinion that I was briefly possessed during the process of launching such a negative sigil. I usually don't utilize magick for harmful purposes, but felt I had just enough cause to.

Anything unusual like this happen to anyone else?

[ReconRebel]

Can somebody still join even if they don't have a pentagram carved into their palm? I read up on this stuff for years Baron. Demonology (the study of demons) was by far my favorite subject. The Politics of Hell was one of the best articles I've ever read and The Demonologist by Ed and Lorraine Warren will creep you out for days if you dare read it.

[EchoRun]

At 4/13/07 02:34 AM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote:

At 4/12/07 07 :56 PM, EchoRun wrote: "Love is the law, love under will" ... I haven't heard that one before, are you quoting that from somewhere, or did you make that one up? Can you explain it?

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
Love is the law, Love under will.
There is no law beyond do what thou wilt.

This comes from Aleister Crowley's Book Of The Law his bible so to speak.

Heh, that explains that then. As I said, I haven't gotten round to reading up on him yet.

[BaronVonBadGuy]

At 4/13/07 03:08 AM, ReconRebel wrote: Can somebody still join even if they don't have a pentagram carved into their palm? I read up on this stuff for years Baron. Demonology (the study of demons) was by far my favorite subject. The Politics of Hell was one of the best articles I've ever read and The Demonologist by Ed and Lorraine Warren will creep you out for days if you dare read it.

Of course you're welcome to join.
I myself also find myself highly interested in the darker side of things. I've been reading a lot of Michael W Fords works, as well as Kenneth Grants, deals a lot with concepts from the left hand path. Demons, hell, Satan, all very interesting, regardless if you believe they are real or not.

At 4/13/07 08:13 AM, EchoRun wrote: Heh, that explains that then. As I said, I haven't gotten round to reading up on him yet.

He's well worth reading up on, really interesting guy with an amazing philosophy.

[TigerDemon]

At 4/13/07 03:08 AM, ReconRebel wrote: Can somebody still join even if they don't have a pentagram carved into their palm? I read up on this stuff for years Baron. Demonology (the study of demons) was by far my favorite subject. The Politics of Hell was one of the best articles I've ever read and The Demonologist by Ed and Lorraine Warren will creep you out for days if you dare read it.

My family has known the Warrens for years. hell I used to bother them all the time when I was a kid. Its sad that Ed has passed but I am sure that a man who has done so many good works in his day is in a better place.

BaronVonBadGuy :
I am wishing you and this club Aknh,Bah,Mert. I will stop in from time to time and post once in awhile. What I think we can do here is that this club will deal with more the mechanics of magick while the Pagan crew has grown more towards the spiritual side of things. Though thia does not mean these clubs dont cross over its just an observation.Good luck and I look forward to seeing this club grow.
Blessings,
~Tiger~

[mrdurgan]

http://www.luminist.org/archives/index.htm

thaught that you peoples might find this sight interesting. plenty of interesting stuff to read, although as it is vaguely all 'counter-culture' literature its sort of a mix between drug culture, anarchist and occult writing.

[Truth]

ok, so whats the first sigil say?

[hongkongexpress]

I remember reading an old book printed in the 50s, It showed the Theospican (sp) communities that were built in California, example the Rosicurian temple, and Mme Blastavkie (sp), utopian aged facilities, that featured strange but cool looking geometric designs, similar to the New York World Fair. Unfortunatly these buildings were torn down. And the last I checked Theospican. But what a time to be livnig back then, when these knowledges were being rediscovered. Some of course are just bunk. Others seem to be geniune I'm intrested in the Orgone.

Like the body is a self repairing robot. That heals itself. of course it's good to have doctors help heal, but I wonder if all this Magic is just normal forces that as we deiscover how the body works, we can control these "magics" as if they were real.

I personally believe myself that the Cells are indivitual life forms, not just self replicating particles. Maybe they could be biological nano bots, and that we are a bunch of robots created by higher beings. Who knows.

[Skaface]

Sure, I'll join. I recently became interested in magick after reading Scott Cunningham's many books on white magick and the magic herbs.

[Kiddmeizter]

At 4/9/07 06:09 PM, Asteraith wrote: in regards to automatic writing, I must say that in my past experiences I have encountered some very uncomfortable trance states.

I don't think it to be safe to do that in my house anymore.
you see I had a day where i was home alone the whole day, and i decided to try automatic writing...I did it a total of three times that one day, and i haven't dared to meddle with the spirits in my house since..

I've never been so scared in my life.

NOTE: Maybe i should have meditated or done a cleansing ritual or something , but i didn't know how at the time.

Attempt #1

I sit down on the floor, pen in hand, go into a trance... as i come to my senses again, i see the word " Þú" (you) written on the paper, in pretty normal handwriting.
I'm not satisfied with results at the time, a two letter word didn't drown my thirst for knowledge.

Attempt #2

some five minutes later, i went back, Repeated the process, exept this time, i can feel a sting in my wrist, in the trance state.
I open my eyes to reveal the word "Deyrð" (Die) on the paper, in the same writing.
This is where i wanted to stop.

Attempt #3

"You die" I just wanted the damn third word, that's when i'd stop. i waited an hour to repeat the process once more.
This time, i had made plans, one more weird thing and i'd run the fuck away, to a friend's place.

As i proceeded into a trance, i had a strange feeling, like when you go swimming, and hours later, water goes out of your ears, and as i came out of the trance, my ears are ringing.
i look at the paper and i see a few drops of blood next to the word " Núna" (now)
I had a terrible nosebleed, it didn't stop for almost an hour, when it did so did the ringing.

Explaining the nosebleed to my friend was pretty awkward, as i didn't want him to know of my meddling.

When i come back home to sleep, i go into my room, and it's freezing cold and dry as the sahara in there, and my guitar amp is on,making a terrible noise.

No-one had gone inside the house in the time i was away.

I was too afraid to sleep.

This was definately my worst experiance with the occult, ever.

[BaronVonBadGuy]

At 4/14/07 11:31 AM, TigerDemon wrote: BaronVonBadGuy :
I am wishing you and this club Aknh,Bah,Mert. I will stop in from time to time and post once in awhile. What I think we can do here is that this club will deal with more the mechanics of magick while the Pagan crew has grown more towards the spiritual side of things. Though thia does not mean these clubs dont cross over its just an observation.Good luck and I look forward to seeing this club grow.
Blessings,
~Tiger~

Thanks for your blessings. I hope there is a large enough number of people interested in this sort of thing here on Newgrounds.

At 4/14/07 12:56 PM, Truth wrote: ok, so whats the first sigil say?

It's a secret. :o

At 4/14/07 11:05 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote: This was definately my worst experiance with the occult, ever.

I can't say I've ever had an experience quite like that before. In fact, when automatic drawing, I generally view it as the subconscious expressing itself, I usually don't use it to contact spirits. Certainly sounds like quite a frightening experience. I assume you haven't experienced that spirits presence since, or before?

Group Question: Who do you feel influenced you the most as an occultist.

For me, I would have to say Austin Osman Spare, his idea's have been around far before Peter Carroll reintroduced them in his own words. An original magickal trailblazer, Spare invented the sigil and it's magickal usage.
Spare stressed the importance of strong magickal trances, entering into a state of no mind to launch the sigil. Achieving this could be as simple as causing yourself briefly to lose consciousness with the aid of The Death Posture. (Link not in Spares words, not all Spare's methods either, but this sums some of the methods up quite well and should give you a basic idea.)
Chaos Magick, if it ever came into being without Spare, would be a mere shell of what it is today.
Spare's philosophy, while I don't always agree with it, is amazing, as is his own magickal system. Well worth looking into this fellow and his writings.

[BaronVonBadGuy]

At 4/14/07 11:59 AM, mrdurgan wrote: http://www.luminist.org/archives/index.htm

Thanks for the link. :)

At 4/14/07 06:35 PM, hongkongexpress wrote: Like the body is a self repairing robot. That heals itself. of course it's good to have doctors help heal, but I wonder if all this Magic is just normal forces that as we deiscover how the body works, we can control these "magics" as if they were real.

It could very well be that we are on the evolutionary verge of utilizing these forces of the brain with greater ease and understanding, you could think of magicians as the monkeys who first started trying to use tools to help them in their every day struggles. We're tapping into powers which we yet can't fully control and comprehend. But the more we try, the faster we learn how to get a grasp on it.

At 4/14/07 09:41 PM, Skaface wrote: Sure, I'll join. I recently became interested in magick after reading Scott Cunningham's many books on white magick and the magic herbs.

Hope you enjoy your stay here.

[Kiddmeizter]

At 4/15/07 12:31 AM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote:

At 4/14/07 11:05 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote: This was definately my worst experiance with the occult, ever.

I can't say I've ever had an experience quite like that before. In fact, when automatic drawing, I generally view it as the subconscious expressing itself, I usually don't use it to contact spirits. Certainly sounds like quite a frightening experience. I assume you haven't experienced that spirits presence since, or before?

No, i haven't, that's why i was so scared, i mean, i've had a billion small things,that could all be explained through other means than Magick (cold,hand shaking a little),but never something like THAT since or before.

[Tri-Nitro-Toluene]

I don't practice anything in particular, but I have a healthy interest in the occult and this sort of thing.

Mind if I hang around and jump in every now and again to ask questions?

[Kiddmeizter]

At 4/15/07 12:31 AM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote:

Achieving this could be as simple as causing yourself briefly to lose consciousness with the aid of The Death Posture.

I actually didn't learn that until like a month ago, I usually use a method taken from shaolin monks, basically the same though, similar results, exept you don't lose consciousness, just
empty your mind completely, it takes a bit longer time though.

[hongkongexpress]

New age stores? are they bunk? I went to a new age store last spring for a while because I felt like this energetic feeling in there. Like I felt good in there, never felt that in church. which I had more money to get some Chi enregy body work done. But sometimes when I go in there, things just feel normal. There is no electromagenetic warm feeling. so maybe it's all in my head. and me having wishful thinking.

[EchoRun]

At 4/16/07 06:51 AM, hongkongexpress wrote: New age stores? are they bunk? I went to a new age store last spring for a while because I felt like this energetic feeling in there. Like I felt good in there, never felt that in church. which I had more money to get some Chi enregy body work done. But sometimes when I go in there, things just feel normal. There is no electromagenetic warm feeling. so maybe it's all in my head. and me having wishful thinking.

I get a buzzy feeling in stores like that, but some times I don’t. Weather I do or not depends on my mood and how open I am being at the time - open to the energy of the place that is. I don't close off deliberately, but if something else is on my mind it can just happen anyway. So I don't think it is all in your head. Take a moment to open up if you want to feel that energy, imagine walls falling away around you - walls you don’t need, the ones you put up to isolate you from other things, perhaps so you could focus on something else. That is usually enough to get me feeling the energy of a place again.

[BaronVonBadGuy]

At 4/15/07 06:20 AM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: Mind if I hang around and jump in every now and again to ask questions?

Welcome, hope you find your stay here interesting.

At 4/15/07 05:35 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote: I actually didn't learn that until like a month ago, I usually use a method taken from shaolin monks, basically the same though, similar results, exept you don't lose consciousness, just
empty your mind completely, it takes a bit longer time though.

What is the practice known as, I'd love to read up on it.

At 4/16/07 06:51 AM, hongkongexpress wrote: New age stores? are they bunk? I went to a new age store last spring for a while because I felt like this energetic feeling in there. Like I felt good in there, never felt that in church. which I had more money to get some Chi enregy body work done. But sometimes when I go in there, things just feel normal. There is no electromagenetic warm feeling. so maybe it's all in my head. and me having wishful thinking.

The New Age/ Pagan supposedly wiccan shop near where I live. A very small shop not having too much of anything. There is a room in the back where the owners friends and people visiting stay in, regulars and such. I, along with my friend decided we'd go back and meet the folks there. All around our age it seemed. However, I noticed they employed some technique's many LeVayain Satanist would be familiar with, as they are explained in The Satanic Witch. There was also an inverted star punctured into a metal chair. It is my impression that these were, no doubt Satanists. Assuming this to be true, I find it odd why they would claim to be wiccan. I also find it odd the lack of merchandise in the store.