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At 4/15/07 02:29 PM, Sigma-Lambda wrote: Calling the members of one team "Hoes" is pretty unprofessional if you ask me.

What about calling BOTH teams "hoes" and telling them to go fuck themselves, the dirty whores?

I agree with most of you , if the Black community can say certain word and not have any repercussions then equal rights would mean we get the same privilege. Black comedians say lots of things about white people and nothing is said yet one whit person says something and all hell breaks loose. I would love to be able to tell Sharpton, and Jackson what I think about them.

Some more radio hosts get suspended for jokes

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory ?id=3071546

"Still recovering from the Don Imus scandal, CBS Radio suspended two local shock jocks after they twice broadcast a racially charged prank call to employees at a Chinese restaurant.

The hosts of the daily morning show, WFNY-FM's "The Dog House With JV and Elvis," have been suspended indefinitely without pay, CBS Radio spokeswoman Karen Mateo told The New York Times in an e-mail Monday. One of the hosts, Jeff Vandergrift, apologized on Monday's show, she said.

Local chapters of the Organization of Chinese Americans, an advocacy group, released a statement Sunday protesting the segment. By Monday, California state Sen. Leland Yee and others joined the campaign.

In the segment, broadcast on April 5 a day after the infamous Imus comment on CBS and again last week, a caller to a Chinese restaurant intersperses an order for takeout with lewd language.

The caller tells one female employee he wants to come to the restaurant to see her naked and refers to a part of her body as "hot, Asian, spicy." The caller also attempts to order "shrimp flied lice."

The show's hosts, Vandergrift and Dan Lay, have been campaigning online and on the air in support of Imus since his firing for calling the Rutgers University women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos" on April 4.

A CBS Radio spokeswoman did not immediately respond to telephone and e-mail messages from The Associated Press late Monday.

Community advocates pushed for CBS to fire the hosts of the show, which can be heard only in the New York City area and on the Internet.

"If they don't fire the DJ's, it will be a double standard," said Vicki Shu Smolin, president of the New York City chapter of the Organization of Chinese Americans."

Free speech is getting limited.

At 4/24/07 06:35 PM, TheBlueBullet wrote: Some more radio hosts get suspended for jokes

Free speech is getting limited.

We have to remember, that nowhere in the constitution does it say that people have the right to a radio show. The right to free speech also doesn't mean that you have the right to be completely free of repercussions for the things you say. All it says is that the government can't abridge you, or toss you in jail for the things you say. it does not protect you from getting fired by a private company for saying stupid shit.

At 4/9/07 04:04 PM, StephanosGnomon wrote: Recognizing race isn't racist. Recognizing attributes that commonly belong to a particular race isn't racist either. What's racist is trying to make the case that your race is superior to another race due to the apparent difference in attributes.

EXACTAMUNDO! PC has strayed from the definition of racism (believing one race to be superior or inferior to another) and declared nearly all mention of race to be racist... WTF. Steph hit the nail on the head on that one, end of discussion.

Until Imus made his comment in 2007, "nappy headed" was not a racial slur. "Ho" still isn't.

we can't classify stuff that's been ok for everyone to say for 4 decades racist on a whim.

Or if we can...I classify calling Republicans heartless racist.

At 4/25/07 12:22 PM, Ravariel wrote: We have to remember, that nowhere in the constitution does it say that people have the right to a radio show. The right to free speech also doesn't mean that you have the right to be completely free of repercussions for the things you say. All it says is that the government can't abridge you, or toss you in jail for the things you say. it does not protect you from getting fired by a private company for saying stupid shit.

We also have to remember, that this country is known for its free speech. You can say anything in America. Instead of the government restricting the speech, its one group of people that get "offended." These other guys got fired because of the whole Don thing. If that Don thing never have happened this never would have been an issue. You do not have to like what people say but they do have the right to say it and being fired is a way to supress it. I guess basically it comes down to the first amendment philosphy, free speech. Should people be getting fired just because they say something that offends people? Millions of people offend other people every single day. Does that mean that they should be fired from their jobs too? Many radio and tv hosts make fun of Christianity, should we fire them as well?

The government also licenses radio stations to go on the air. So in part couldn't the government put pressure on certain radio stations to do certain things or else have their license revoked?

Snap, I really like Imus In The Morning too... I only heard it once while travelling through the South.

Oh well, i guess all good things come to an end :0(

At 4/26/07 08:43 AM, TheBlueBullet wrote: We also have to remember, that this country is known for its free speech. You can say anything in America.

Not really, but mostly. I would point to the shouting "fire" in a crowded theater as the most famous example.

You do not have to like what people say but they do have the right to say it and being fired is a way to supress it.

You can fire anyone for (almost) any reason... even no reason. If an employee of yours is not performing up to the standards the bosses set for him, however unfair and arbitrary those standards may be, they can get fired and there's nothing wrong with that. Imus can say whatever he wants... just not on that show on that network.

Should people be getting fired just because they say something that offends people?

I wouldn't, but it's not my company. Advertisers were pulling out left and right. Had they kept him on, the would have lost millions in revenue. That's usually a time when survival of your entire business supercedes any principality you might want to stand on.

Millions of people offend other people every single day. Does that mean that they should be fired from their jobs too?

They often are. See: Customer Service people getting fired for insulting or otherwise disturbing the customers in a store. If someone gets a job in Starbucks and constantly calls customers names or talks in a racist or otherwise hateful manner, they're not going to have the job for long.

Many radio and tv hosts make fun of Christianity, should we fire them as well?

If the stations they work for see fit to do so for those reasons then yeah... as it's entirely their decision.

The government also licenses radio stations to go on the air. So in part couldn't the government put pressure on certain radio stations to do certain things or else have their license revoked?

Actually the Gvmt. should futt the buck out of radio and broadcast stuff altogether. They should have NO say what a station can and can't air in any way shape or form. The FCC is a travesty that very much IS an affront to the first amendment. Private businesses can do what they want with their employees.

Don't get me wrong, I understand where you;re coming from, and share your anger at the retarded overreaction of the so-called "civil rights leaders" (all of them except the first one, m i rite?) and the advertisers. But the network is mostly blameless, aside from a smattering of spinelessness, they did what they had to to make their bottom line. The hypersensitive PC-culture morality/thought police on the other hand... they're the real criminals here.