the war HAS a good reason...

[BullRat]

Ok, listen up...

I have been quiet for far too long, sitting back and listening to all of you copmlain about something you know nothing about. I hate listening to everybody complaining about Bush starting this war over oil, or as a re-election spoof, or because he as no fucking idea what he's doing... etc etc... Let me ask one question before I go on my rant: would you rather see Gore get us through this? We'd all be wearing burkas and speaking Arabic by now if that cowardly fuck were in office!

Ok, now for my complaining...

Firstly, I couldn't give a shit about the Iraqi people, the Saudi Arabian, or the Afgani people. All you bleeding-hearts do is whine about our military harming the "innocent" people of the Middle East, and it's making me sick. You think they care about us? Of couse not; we've all seen the pictures of the little Mid Eastern children running through the streets carrying burning flags and yelling "Death to America!" I swear, these people are like roaches; they're paracites... They hate us anf they want to destroy us!We need to stop them before they can do any more harm! Or am I the only one that thinks this way (I guess the real question is 'Am I the only one here with Republican views?')

Secondly, I don't think you people would be happy with any else in office right now, or they way they would have handled the situation. You think Bush is an idiot, but he's a good man. You complain about the cost of the war, but let me ask you another question: if it came down to our freedom, don't you think it is worth the cost to fight for it by all means... money or no? Come on people! Our way of life, out freedom, our values (even though we really don't have very many) could be at stake! And all you do is whine about the debt our economy is in? Once again, am I the only one the sees this??? I admit that I do not like war either, but sometimes it is necessary (like preserving our freedom!). Don't you think that is something that's worth every damn penny??

So there's my rant... I finally got it out. I know I'm pissing off a lot of people, and I'm mostly targeting you Democratic pigs. But hopefully I've opened some eyes for those of you who aren't stupid enough to believe tabloids and vicious rumors.

[BullRat]

there are a lot of typos... sorry... I was typing really fast...

[karasz]

At 5/12/03 01:08 AM, kittie_cross wrote: I have been quiet for far too long, sitting back and listening to all of you copmlain about something you know nothing about. I hate listening to everybody complaining about Bush starting this war over oil, or as a re-election spoof, or because he as no fucking idea what he's doing... etc etc... Let me ask one question before I go on my rant: would you rather see Gore get us through this? We'd all be wearing burkas and speaking Arabic by now if that cowardly fuck were in office!

based on what? exactly does this come from?

Firstly, I couldn't give a shit about the Iraqi people, the Saudi Arabian, or the Afgani people.

then why arent u over there shooting them all??

All you bleeding-hearts do is whine about our military harming the "innocent" people of the Middle East, and it's making me sick. You think they care about us? Of couse not;

cuz u know since ur there and all... ur a fucking moron... a poll was done and it turns out that the arab people dont hate Americans as much as they hate America's foreign policy...

we've all seen the pictures of the little Mid Eastern children running through the streets carrying burning flags and yelling "Death to America!" I swear, these people are like roaches; they're paracites... They hate us anf they want to destroy us!We need to stop them before they can do any more harm!

isnt this how hitler got started????

Or am I the only one that thinks this way (I guess the real question is 'Am I the only one here with Republican views?')

NO ur wrong, there is a difference between republican views AND wanting to eradicate an entire people...

Secondly, I don't think you people would be happy with any else in office right now, or they way they would have handled the situation.

any moron in office could do what he did after september 11th, hell i said the exact same words that bush did when he was standing on the rubble that used to be WTC, days before he said it of course....

You think Bush is an idiot, but he's a good man. You complain about the cost of the war, but let me ask you another question: if it came down to our freedom, don't you think it is worth the cost to fight for it by all means... money or no? Come on people!

well hey when a battle comes down to my personal freedoms then i will fight it... but until the US is truly threatened im staying in the US...

Our way of life, out freedom, our values (even though we really don't have very many) could be at stake! And all you do is whine about the debt our economy is in? Once again, am I the only one the sees this???

when it comes down to it the US people will want a job more than a war... its a rule of US politics...

I admit that I do not like war either, but sometimes it is necessary (like preserving our freedom!). Don't you think that is something that's worth every damn penny??

the same guy saying kill all arabs hates war??? irony if i ever heard it...

So there's my rant... I finally got it out. I know I'm pissing off a lot of people, and I'm mostly targeting you Democratic pigs. But hopefully I've opened some eyes for those of you who aren't stupid enough to believe tabloids and vicious rumors.

well first off, im smarter than you are jackass... second off, by claiming ur a republican u are really hurting there cause, especially after the Prez said not to target all arabs, yet you call for the destruction of an entire people... thats not too good, you would rather have the US in a perpetual war against the mid-east for reasons that go way farther back that 9-11 but in ur stupid ethnocentristic views you dont care, the war started the second the WTC got ass raped by our own planes... and if it were up to u we would be launching nuclear attacks against Riyadh, Tehran, Pyongyang, Amman, and Damascus then take over... u know nothing of politics and want to do nothing but take the easy way out...

learn some history and shoot urself, then maybe u will be tolerable...

[TheShrike]

So much crap!!!!!!

At 5/12/03 01:08 AM, kittie_cross wrote:

Ok, listen up...

I have been quiet for far too long, sitting back and listening to all of you copmlain about something you know nothing about. I hate listening to everybody complaining about Bush starting this war over oil, or as a re-election spoof, or because he as no fucking idea what he's doing... etc etc... Let me ask one question before I go on my rant: would you rather see Gore get us through this? We'd all be wearing burkas and speaking Arabic by now if that cowardly fuck were in office!

Uh... No. We'd still be the Good 'Ol US-of-A.
And Toby Keith still would have sung that god-awful 'courtesy of the red white & blue' song.
I think Bush was better prepared for the retaliation against worldwide terrorism than Gore would have been, but what you're saying is ri-fucking-diculous. We would have gone to war in Afghanistan even if Jebus was the president of the US.

Ok, now for my complaining...

Oh god.... THAT wasn't complaining????

Firstly, I couldn't give a shit about the Iraqi people, the Saudi Arabian, or the Afgani people. All you bleeding-hearts do is whine about our military harming the "innocent" people of the Middle East, and it's making me sick. You think they care about us? Of couse not

OK, YOU'RE RIGHT!!!! EVERYONE LIVING IN THE MIDEAST, NAY~ EVERYONE WHO IS MUSLIM IS A TERRORIST!!!! NONE ARE HUMAN!!!! THEY'RE ALL ALLAH-BRAINWASHED ANDROIDS!!!!!!! THEY HAVE NO COMPASSION!!!! THEY FEEL NO PAIN!!!!

we've all seen the pictures of the little Mid Eastern children running through the streets carrying burning flags and yelling "Death to America!" I swear, these people are like roaches; they're paracites...

LOL WHATEVER!!! Just because the only time you ever see footage is when you watch FOX, doesn't mean that those people on the TV are the sole voice of their country! And even if they are... even if they all hate us, you don't go about fixing that by spewing forth more hatred and blind ignorance.

But I guess I'm a hypocrite... you're making me sick, cockroach

They hate us anf they want to destroy us!We need to stop them before they can do any more harm! Or am I the only one that thinks this way (I guess the real question is 'Am I the only one here with Republican views?')

No... There are quite a few right-wingers on here. Thank god for people like Commander...

Secondly, I don't think you people would be happy with any else in office right now, or they way they would have handled the situation. You think Bush is an idiot, but he's a good man. You complain about the cost of the war, but let me ask you another question: if it came down to our freedom, don't you think it is worth the cost to fight for it by all means... money or no?

If our freedom was truly at stake, I wouldn't spend my days the way I do. I'd join the military as an officer. Or at least enlist.
But this war is not about our freedom. We haven't fought a war where our own freedom was at stake since WW2.
You can say it's about WMD, you can say it's about relenquishing the grip of a harsh dictator, you might even claim it's about terrorism. That's all up for debate. But it is most certainly not about the freedom of American citizens.
Please don't make a hypocrite of yourself by claiming that this war is about the freedom of the Iraqi 'cockroaches', either.

Come on people! Our way of life, out freedom, our values (even though we really don't have very many) could be at stake! And all you do is whine about the debt our economy is in? Once again, am I the only one the sees this??? I admit that I do not like war either, but sometimes it is necessary (like preserving our freedom!). Don't you think that is something that's worth every damn penny??

See the above rebuttal. Our freedom is at stake.... how?

So there's my rant... I finally got it out. I know I'm pissing off a lot of people, and I'm mostly targeting you Democratic pigs. But hopefully I've opened some eyes for those of you who aren't stupid enough to believe tabloids and vicious rumors.

Yes..

I see.

So....

Well....

Wow... I'm at a complete loss of words. I honestly can't think of any real way argue your skewed logic and blind hate.

[BullRat]

You think because I say "those people" that I mean the entire Arab race? No... I meant the people behind all this buushit and terrorism. I guess I don't make myself clear enough... that, are no one really understands a fucking word I say. I'm not going to bother explaining myself any further. If your're gonna put words in my mouth, then fuck you too.

[TheShrike]

No... I heard you loud and clear the first time.
Despite the lack of clarity, saw what you really meant.

And I stand by my post.

[nitroxide]

kittie not caring about these people is what got our country bombed in the first place have you always felt like this about middle eastern people or is it recently that the media has corrupted your mind...kittie ignore it if you want but oil is a part of this war one way or another your views are expressed with such hate that i dont even see the as republican i see them as facist...hey shrike since everyone is posting a pic might as well do you like my flag.

[TheShrike]

Nice, but I'm not necessarily a pot advocate.

And I truly despise anarchy.

[nitroxide]

At 5/12/03 02:48 AM, TheShrike wrote: Nice, but I'm not necessarily a pot advocate.

And I truly despise anarchy.

shrike what i get from you is a very conservative attitude lighten up...its ok you still like the pic.

[TheShrike]

Just because I dislike anarchy and don't actively support casual drug use, doesn't mean I'm conservative.

If you think I'm conservative... I'd hate to see what you call liberal...

[nitroxide]

At 5/12/03 03:05 AM, TheShrike wrote: Just because I dislike anarchy and don't actively support casual drug use, doesn't mean I'm conservative.

If you think I'm conservative... I'd hate to see what you call liberal...

shrike i am not attacking you i was just saying it becuse of the fact that you used your personal beliefs to judge my pathetic paint project..lol

Peace.

[TheShrike]

Bah....

I don't bite. It just sounds like I do.

[karasz]

well props to shrike for being less angry than me while posting...

god i hate people

[nitroxide]

At 5/12/03 03:10 AM, TheShrike wrote: Bah....

I don't bite. It just sounds like I do.

its kool...can i ask you why you hate anarchy so much?

[TheShrike]

Because, even in theory, i's not as good as communism.

Communism is good in theory, bad in the real world.

Anarchy is just too damn idealistic to be taken seriously.

If we were to discuss anarchy further, it would go something like this (I'm the guy with the glasses, you're mr goth):

[karasz]

At 5/12/03 03:32 AM, TheShrike wrote: Anarchy is just too damn idealistic to be taken seriously.

which is hysterical since anarchy is a rejection of being told what to do, but to be an anarchists u have to hold true to the core beliefs...

i love irony...

[Pyro-cannibal]

Nice comic

[nitroxide]

shrike a witty comic proves nothing i mean i thought you were gonna defend yourself with real facts anarchy is the only way to get attention...do protest work does your goverment listen i am not saying that i want to run this world on total disorder as most anarchist believe i am not an anarchist because i dont commit attacks as true anachy is about but i would do everything in my power to bring our present goverment down with full disoder and chaos i have found that the principle in many religions is that at first their must be chaos to establish order america is synthetic they control what we run..this goverment is not for us no goverment is worldwide but humanity can establish a utopia pass the anarchy...shrike keep in mind im not attacking you im just politricking with you.

[TheShrike]

Ok, in that case, make a thread about anarchy. We'll discuss it there.

[Jimsween]

Great plan there, establish chaos and hope order comes out of it. Do you have any proof this will work?

[PreacherJ]

At 5/12/03 03:44 AM, nitroxide wrote: shrike a witty comic proves nothing i mean i thought you were gonna defend yourself with real facts anarchy is the only way to get attention...do protest work does your goverment listen i am not saying that i want to run this world on total disorder as most anarchist believe i am not an anarchist because i dont commit attacks as true anachy is about but i would do everything in my power to bring our present goverment down with full disoder and chaos i have found that the principle in many religions is that at first their must be chaos to establish order america is synthetic they control what we run..this goverment is not for us no goverment is worldwide but humanity can establish a utopia pass the anarchy...shrike keep in mind im not attacking you im just politricking with you.

Ahhh, anarchy in a simple, true form.... the run-on sentence. *whew* It looks like you got a little excited writing, that, cheif. Calm down a little.

As for Anarchy not working, it can't, at least not for the betterment of society. Governments exist to protect the weak, at heart. With anarchy, there's absolutely nothing stopping the complete and total breakdown of civilization.

As for your beliefs on the American government... They may have their fingers in a lot of pies, but they don't have YOU on a leash, do they? America is indeed land of the free in many respects. If it weren't, I couldn't walk outside tomorrow and write a treastise on how the government is brainwashing us all to be slaves. I can in America. They don't have control over that. I happen to like the fact that there's a line of men (and women) in blue ready to step up and stop you from stealing my stereo.

As for a utopia-
I hate to burst your little bubble, but this isn't possible, short of some Orwellian nightmare. People are too different to be happy and productive together. The human race hates itself entirely too much, no matter what you think they're capable of.

[TheShrike]

Word.

[nitroxide]

as cristianity and catholism are basically the same just some small changes i am not staying true to the principle of anarchy, never did i say it would work. once the goverment falls i believe in humanity establishing order for all mankind but taking on that responsibility yourself not allowing intrusion from people that want to have more than others i say it myself that society is not ready for this but that is becuase we have been shaped into feeling inferior why does mankind hate himself preacher?could it not be from implanted thoughts to realizing the shit they live in.is drugdealing a game or a way for the poor to survive police are not out protecting your stereo they are policing a society with an iron fist of laws many of wich are shit and oppresive they are just puuting more people in the prison system so they can benefit from this the prison system is a profital organization as is drug dealing anarchy will work to bring the goverment down but not to establishing a peaceful society afterwards...humanity has been fed so many lies that every lie and truth is distorted anarchy is not the answer to the world problems...but it is the best way to expose the world problems to the people.

[bumcheekcity]

At 5/12/03 01:08 AM, kittie_cross wrote: Ok, listen up...

I have been quiet for far too long, sitting back and listening to all of you copmlain about something you know nothing about. I hate listening to everybody complaining about Bush starting this war over oil, or as a re-election spoof, or because he as no fucking idea what he's doing... etc etc... Let me ask one question before I go on my rant: would you rather see Gore get us through this? We'd all be wearing burkas and speaking Arabic by now if that cowardly fuck were in office!

if that cowardly fuck was in office I would like America a whole lot more than I do now, the Iraq war wouldn't have happened, and Americas now tattered diplomatic relations would be better.

Ok, now for my complaining...

Oh and that wasn't complaining?

Firstly, I couldn't give a shit about the Iraqi people, the Saudi Arabian, or the Afgani people.

Neither did Hitler, about the Jews. Connection here?

All you bleeding-hearts do is whine about our military harming the "innocent" people of the Middle East, and it's making me sick. You think they care about us?

They might if we didn't bomb their families

Of couse not; we've all seen the pictures of the little Mid Eastern children running through the streets carrying burning flags and yelling "Death to America!" I swear, these people are like roaches; they're paracites... They hate us and they want to destroy us!

America imposed 10 years of sanctions and millions of people starved to death. What did you have fordinner today? If you had nothing, and you knew it was because America couldn't trade with anybody because Russia put sanctions on it, would you not like the Russians or what? I know I wouldn't.

We need to stop them before they can do any more harm!

Sorry to use this again, but that was Hitlers view on gays. To stop terrorism yuou have to make friends with them. Osama attacks you because he hates you. If he liked you, where would that leave him? There probably wouldnt be any more Al-Quieda.

Or am I the only one that thinks this way (I guess the real question is 'Am I the only one here with Republican views?')

No. Please have a chat with NEMESiSZ. :P

Secondly, I don't think you people would be happy with any else in office right now, or they way they would have handled the situation.

Clinton would be good. He was cool. But thats just my personal opinion and you do have to remember i was 3 years old when he was elected. But he was sstill cool and a nutter, instead of just a nutter.

You think Bush is an idiot, but he's a good man. You complain about the cost of the war, but let me ask you another question: if it came down to our freedom, don't you think it is worth the cost to fight for it by all means... money or no?

Oh, dont worry about the cost of the war! Oh, no, cost is no problem. The good ol' US of A made billions out of Oil Contracts, no need to worry about money! </sarcasm>

Come on people! Our way of life, out freedom, our values (even though we really don't have very many) could be at stake! And all you do is whine about the debt our economy is in?

Actually, to be fair, I only looked at the Financial a week ago, but the American economy was going down the shitter. Its probably perked now though.

Once again, am I the only one the sees this??? I admit that I do not like war either, but sometimes it is necessary (like preserving our freedom!). Don't you think that is something that's worth every damn penny??

Preserving our freedom? I haven't got time for that argument. Fired from Baghdad, not one of Saddams various missiles could have reached the borders of Iraq. Thats how pathetic his military was.

You think I care about money? Money can be replaced. We anti-war people care about LIFE

So there's my rant... I finally got it out. I know I'm pissing off a lot of people, and I'm mostly targeting you Democratic pigs. But hopefully I've opened some eyes for those of you who aren't stupid enough to believe tabloids and vicious rumors.

Hopefully I've opened your eyes even more to idiots who believe every single word of drivel that comes out of certain Presidents mouths.

Let the flames begin...

[bumcheekcity]

At 5/12/03 01:08 AM, kittie_cross wrote: Ok, listen up...

I have been quiet for far too long, sitting back and listening to all of you copmlain about something you know nothing about. I hate listening to everybody complaining about Bush starting this war over oil, or as a re-election spoof, or because he as no fucking idea what he's doing... etc etc... Let me ask one question before I go on my rant: would you rather see Gore get us through this? We'd all be wearing burkas and speaking Arabic by now if that cowardly fuck were in office!

if that cowardly fuck was in office I would like America a whole lot more than I do now, the Iraq war wouldn't have happened, and Americas now tattered diplomatic relations would be better.

Ok, now for my complaining...

Oh and that wasn't complaining?

Firstly, I couldn't give a shit about the Iraqi people, the Saudi Arabian, or the Afgani people.

Neither did Hitler, about the Jews. Connection here?

All you bleeding-hearts do is whine about our military harming the "innocent" people of the Middle East, and it's making me sick. You think they care about us?

They might if we didn't bomb their families

Of couse not; we've all seen the pictures of the little Mid Eastern children running through the streets carrying burning flags and yelling "Death to America!" I swear, these people are like roaches; they're paracites... They hate us and they want to destroy us!

America imposed 10 years of sanctions and millions of people starved to death. What did you have fordinner today? If you had nothing, and you knew it was because America couldn't trade with anybody because Russia put sanctions on it, would you not like the Russians or what? I know I wouldn't.

We need to stop them before they can do any more harm!

Sorry to use this again, but that was Hitlers view on gays. To stop terrorism yuou have to make friends with them. Osama attacks you because he hates you. If he liked you, where would that leave him? There probably wouldnt be any more Al-Quieda.

Or am I the only one that thinks this way (I guess the real question is 'Am I the only one here with Republican views?')

No. Please have a chat with NEMESiSZ. :P

Secondly, I don't think you people would be happy with any else in office right now, or they way they would have handled the situation.

Clinton would be good. He was cool. But thats just my personal opinion and you do have to remember i was 3 years old when he was elected. But he was sstill cool and a nutter, instead of just a nutter.

You think Bush is an idiot, but he's a good man. You complain about the cost of the war, but let me ask you another question: if it came down to our freedom, don't you think it is worth the cost to fight for it by all means... money or no?

Oh, dont worry about the cost of the war! Oh, no, cost is no problem. The good ol' US of A made billions out of Oil Contracts, no need to worry about money! </sarcasm>

Come on people! Our way of life, out freedom, our values (even though we really don't have very many) could be at stake! And all you do is whine about the debt our economy is in?

Actually, to be fair, I only looked at the Financial a week ago, but the American economy was going down the shitter. Its probably perked now though.

Once again, am I the only one the sees this??? I admit that I do not like war either, but sometimes it is necessary (like preserving our freedom!). Don't you think that is something that's worth every damn penny??

Preserving our freedom? I haven't got time for that argument. Fired from Baghdad, not one of Saddams various missiles could have reached the borders of Iraq. Thats how pathetic his military was.

You think I care about money? Money can be replaced. We anti-war people care about LIFE

So there's my rant... I finally got it out. I know I'm pissing off a lot of people, and I'm mostly targeting you Democratic pigs. But hopefully I've opened some eyes for those of you who aren't stupid enough to believe tabloids and vicious rumors.

Hopefully I've opened your eyes even more to idiots who believe every single word of drivel that comes out of certain Presidents mouths.

Let the flames begin...

[mrpopenfresh]

Getting back on the subject here, dont you think that arabians have a good reason to hate the USA?? Have you even ever though about that?? Then think at all the americans that hate muslims and anyone with darker skin and that speak other languages than english.

[Kenney333]

So basically cause they dont like us we dont have to do shit for them? real compassionate.

What is with all the kill of be killed mentality, not like iraq has landed a few thousand troops off the US coast or anything, besides, id rather die then kill someone.

God i hate people

[Kenney333]

At 5/12/03 01:08 AM, kittie_cross wrote:

if it came down to our freedom, don't you think it is worth the cost to fight for it by all means... Our way of life, out freedom, our values (even though we really don't have very many) could be at stake!

Freedom is not worth lives, and what are you talking about our freedom is at stake, the governments propagandha has forced your head so far up your ass i dont know how you managed to type this article

oh no, our freedom, values, and way of life are at stake, wait a minute, attacking iraq has not put a way of life at risk, but actually life, maybe your stuck using your mentality of the only way to be safe is to kill all threats, congradulations, Your Ignorant

God i hate people

[mrpopenfresh]

Basically im saying what most people are saying in this thread;

1)Some parts of your rant sound very nazy-ish and

2)If Gore was in office, he wouldve made more rationnal decisions and there woudnt be this unprovoked war on the americans hands.

jeez, what rant.

[Commander-K25]

At 5/12/03 05:50 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote: Getting back on the subject here, dont you think that arabians have a good reason to hate the USA?? Have you even ever though about that??

Ease up on the punctuation. And no, I don't. I think we've givern their leaders reason to hate us and since their leaders control the people's opinions, anti-American opinion is manufactured.

Then think at all the americans that hate muslims and anyone with darker skin and that speak other languages than english.

Think about all the arabs that hate anyone from America or the west.