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If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-04 19:39:15 Reply

If scientists were to to find Extra Terrestrial life, it wouldn't be prokaryotes or eukaryotes, so how would they know it is a living organism? I would imagine any ET life would be completely different.

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-04 20:33:50 Reply

Well, if it either respirates, needs nutrition, excreates, moves, grows, or all of the above, it's probably alive.


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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-04 21:33:51 Reply

I thought something had to made up of cells to be considered alive.


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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-04 21:56:39 Reply

everything is alive, rocks just dont' know it yet, when they do, we're screwed

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-04 22:23:30 Reply

At 4/4/07 07:39 PM, vic000 wrote: If scientists were to to find Extra Terrestrial life, it wouldn't be prokaryotes or eukaryotes,

why wouldn't it be?


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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-04 22:33:54 Reply

First thing figure out if they're ramen or varelse, then we can worry about anatomy.


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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-04 22:36:59 Reply

If humans do find life, they better pray it's not more advanced than us. Our world system is seriously f'd fuck the a, and i don't want any of our government giving us a bad deal with cool ass aliens. Also, someone should make a flash of this :)

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-04 22:38:32 Reply

also i meant f'd up the a, but whatever rofl ticket

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-04 22:44:45 Reply

I actually hope they are more advanced. only the peaceful kind of advanced. I actually think chinese are aileans

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-04 23:34:22 Reply

At 4/4/07 11:14 PM, chocolate-penguin wrote: Don't almost all religions say something about how all life was created just on Earth, all at once?

No, im fairly sure none of the religions say that. At least in the bible there is no direct mention of this issue. Though fundamentalist Christians will argue and take irrelevant verses trying to say that we are the only possible life in the universe. But, these are the same people that used to say we are the center of the universe. Which is obviously untrue.

If it happened im sure that Christians would simply admit that they made yet another mistake and move on. They have certainly done it in the past. I seem to remember them getting very upset that it was discovered that the sun did not revolve around us! But they recovered and now Christians disassociate themselves with this as if they had nothing to do with it. A flawed way of thinking that "That was just them! They were the only crazy ones!" when they really are exactly the same in every form. A current example i could give would be the evolution VS intelligent design debate. Surely anyone that is educated on the issue of natural selection and evolution can see clearly that intelligent design is not evident, but Christians argue otherwise and twist it around. Though, many churches are getting over it and admitting their problems.


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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-04 23:38:27 Reply

how do you explain the Beach Boys then?

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-04 23:49:07 Reply

Alien life probably exists. We just don't know it yet because, to be honest, Earth technology is still very primitive.

Its only a mathematical thing. Life on Earth began due to the existence of Carbone, Hydrogen, Oxygen and Nitrogen (CHON). Since the universe is infinite in size, doesn't it mke sense to assume that there is CHON in many other far planets as well? And that just to mention life systems that we know, there probably are a couple others we haven't even imagined yet.

Remember kids, the fact that we don't know about something, doesn't mean its not there. :-)


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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-04 23:52:12 Reply

yeah puff the magic dragon is awesome

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 02:42:52 Reply

At 4/4/07 10:33 PM, SEXY-FETUS wrote: First thing figure out if they're ramen or varelse, then we can worry about anatomy.

did u just read Orson Scott Card or did those terms actually get adopted?

but anyways, how can we class life if we can't even figure what viruses are.

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 05:16:21 Reply

You've never felt lonely until you contemplate the scenario that we are the only intelligent beings in the universe. Imagine--if we are the only ones in the enormous vastness of space, among billions and billions and billions of planets.


So often times it happens, that we live our lives in chains, and we never even know we had the key...

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 06:12:08 Reply

At 4/4/07 09:56 PM, toraneko1 wrote: everything is alive, rocks just dont' know it yet, when they do, we're screwed

rofl

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 07:02:57 Reply

At 4/5/07 05:16 AM, IllustriousPotentate wrote: You've never felt lonely until you contemplate the scenario that we are the only intelligent beings in the universe. Imagine--if we are the only ones in the enormous vastness of space, among billions and billions and billions of planets.

We repopulate quickly enough. Find a way to get us there, and find / create a sustainable habitat on another planet and we'd spread quicker than a contagious disease that's really contagious.

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 09:55:13 Reply

At 4/4/07 10:23 PM, SolInvictus wrote:
At 4/4/07 07:39 PM, vic000 wrote: If scientists were to to find Extra Terrestrial life, it wouldn't be prokaryotes or eukaryotes,
why wouldn't it be?

Because prokaryotes and eukaryotes evolved on earth, so its unlikeyl you will find them any where else.

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 10:50:04 Reply

1.) They won't.

2.) SETI is a waste of good tax dollars.

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 10:53:20 Reply

At 4/5/07 10:50 AM, Dre-Man wrote: 1.) They won't.

2.) SETI is a waste of good tax dollars.

End thread.

If the Universe is infinite then there has to be life in many planets

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 11:42:57 Reply

At 4/5/07 10:53 AM, vic000 wrote:
At 4/5/07 10:50 AM, Dre-Man wrote: 1.) They won't.

2.) SETI is a waste of good tax dollars.

End thread.
If the Universe is infinite then there has to be life in many planets

Truly? Well when you find one let me know, otherwise, stop being a stargazing idiot and deal with your own planet.

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 13:26:27 Reply

At 4/5/07 02:42 AM, The-Weapon wrote:
At 4/4/07 10:33 PM, SEXY-FETUS wrote: First thing figure out if they're ramen or varelse, then we can worry about anatomy.
did u just read Orson Scott Card or did those terms actually get adopted?

Actually both, I do enjoy card and they have been adopted in many circles mainly in the nut frindge, but it's making ground.


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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 17:27:25 Reply

At 4/5/07 10:50 AM, Dre-Man wrote: 1.) They won't.

Care to explain why? The universe is a big place. We could find aliens tomorrow or possibly never. To my undertstanding SETI also does other scientific work relating to astronomy besides looking for aliens as well. I wouldn't say that is a waste of taxpayer dollars.

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 19:33:34 Reply

You know whatever the fudge type of life it was, the first thing that would be done was some sick fetish videos involving said ET

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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 19:45:21 Reply

We will find ET life, but people are so closed-minded that when the aliens land on Earth, we'll immediately shoot them and drive them off if they don't look exactly like us. Which will lead to a war between the aliens and us, which will lead to us being wiped out by them and their high-tech weapons.

Don't think I'm insane. Well, I am, but it's true.


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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 20:05:37 Reply

Or it could be there is ET life who are stuck on a planet similar to us asking similar questions.


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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 22:16:40 Reply

At 4/5/07 09:55 AM, vic000 wrote: Because prokaryotes and eukaryotes evolved on earth, so its unlikeyl you will find them any where else.

maybe not with the possibility of panspermia. simple cells like these may not fit the exact definition of prokayotes by they would most likely be similar. even similar to eukaryotes would be possible.


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At 4/4/07 09:33 PM, EmperorManpig wrote: I thought something had to made up of cells to be considered alive.

Um... Well sort of. All living things are made of cells, but scientists have special classifications for what is considered living. [the only problem is that living things on other planets might be different]

- Can reproduce
- Can process energy
- Can excrete waste
- Can perform metabolic processes

That's basically it.

I dont think if extra terresstrial life came here they would be what you see in those corny sci-fi movies, burning everyone alive and cosuming people and what not. [that's just the corny and somewhat erotic fantasies held by nerds] If aliens were smart enough to invent machines which could allow them to travel billions if not trillions of light years to reach distant planets, they'd be smart enough to be able to disguise themselfs to prevent creating human chaos. You also must consider that space travel requires some degree of planetary unity. Without space travel we've already invented weapons which would be enough to destroy countries, i'm sure that they already KNOW of ways to destroy planets, and thus planetary unity would be the only way to prevent that from happening.

That's just my global processie-theory.


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Response to If scientists find ET life? 2007-04-05 23:16:51 Reply

At 4/5/07 10:26 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: [the only problem is that living things on other planets might be different]

structurally but they should fit the same criteria.


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At 4/5/07 11:16 PM, SolInvictus wrote:
At 4/5/07 10:26 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: [the only problem is that living things on other planets might be different]
structurally but they should fit the same criteria.

Should...

That's what Scientists Say but that's only based on the limited information about life on a single planet out of trillions of other planets with an infinate number of different variables based on very important facts about planets and solar systems which are infinately different between each group Ex:

- Distance from heat source
- heat source size and radiation type [Ex, size of the sun, our sun is a yellow star]
- planetary tilit [our planet has a tilt on it's rotary axis that allows it to have seasons, which has very important effects on wild life here on earth]
- planetary chemical composition [our earth has 70% nitrogen, etc. etc. chemicals on the planet effect the chance of life, and what kind of life could exist]
- planetary revolution time, + and rotation time:
- planetary size and gravity

it all effects life

For example, what if an organism got it's energy by absorbing the radiation from chemical bonds by using special crystalized minerals that did it for them?

This is just an arbituary example... life on other worlds doesn't have to be as they say in Star Trek "Life as we know it".

I'm trying to be open minded here while at the same time expressing my opinion in an intelligent fashion without making myself look like a fool.


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