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Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 04:16:28 Reply

Fire has never melted steel in Human history

Here's a great way to gauge your political I.Q. Rehash over Rosie's recent ode to enlightenmenfrom last week, if you haven't heard about it already. Personally, I think the woman makes the angels cry everytime she opens her mouth to give an opinion. But this recent episode has really sparked a lot of coverage; it's resonating with people.

Is there some saving grace in this clip of Rosie's that I'm missing here, or am I just underestimating how many stupid people are willing to chug her vocal diahrrea?

Fire can't melt steel, you morons


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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 04:30:12 Reply

Yeah, metal shop didn't teach me nothing. All we had was some pewter.


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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 05:32:53 Reply

Uhm, I remember some people talking about this before. (digs up key points)

"Steel melts at 1525° C"
"Jet fuel burns only at 825° C"
BUT
"Steel loses 50% of its strength at 648 ° C"

Wouldn't the tower collapse if the steel was weakened like that?


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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 05:38:19 Reply

Combined with the vast amounts of burnable office supplies and furniture, it would be rather hot.


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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 06:16:25 Reply

Oh come on.

The day this slag says something intelligent or non-deceitful is the day I wear a tutu and do the river dance.


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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 06:22:46 Reply

I got about half way through this before my my ears began to bleed from her voice.

Can someone fill me in on the last half?

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 08:59:34 Reply

well, enough heat can melt steel, however, steel doesn't have to completely melt in order to bend.

Rosie is the biggest piece of Liberal Diahhrea that the world has ever seen, on par with even cindy sheehan. I can't fathom why anyone would listen to them.

all they do is constantly mouth off liberal rhetoric, of course Rosie has done something semi funny when she got into a pissing match with donald trump...


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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 10:02:13 Reply

Why does it even matter. There was no conspiracy, that is not even in question, so even if Silverstein did tell them to "pull it" and the did demo it, surely thats only a spot of fraud, not anything anyone should care about given the other events of September 11th '01

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 10:20:13 Reply

The nutbags on youtube are commending her:\. What morons.

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 10:38:02 Reply

I wouldn't get too worked up over this nonsense, it's just a case of an ignorant cunt trying to appeal to other ignorant cunts.

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 11:25:51 Reply

i'm not the best one about chemical reactions or such, but at least i already knew that steel couldn't be melted without at least a very high temperature

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 12:16:01 Reply

At 4/3/07 06:16 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Oh come on.

The day this slag says something intelligent or non-deceitful is the day I wear a tutu and do the river dance.

it is now my life's goal to find a way to make her say something intelligent.

you had better put it on the internet.

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 12:17:23 Reply

Every single woman on the view is a feminist retard anyway... they're all idiots, Rosie is just the loudest and fattest.

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 12:25:27 Reply

Any one else out there own a wood stove?
Opening and closing the air inlet & or the damper increases or decreases the temp in the fire box.

For those of you who do not, when your burning something the fuel being used isn't the only factor.
Never mind that this um ...lady(?) says about the steel not getting hot enough to melt.
It is very much established that heating metals causes them to expand.
It makes them malleable (softer)

Once you have a fuel burning the amount of air (oxygen) that is able to be introduced to the heat will greatly influence the temperatue of the fire.

It is why a blacksmith uses a bellows to blow air into the forge to be able to increase the heat of his fire.

We don't know how much airflow was entering that fire hundreds of feet in the air. I'm willing to bet it was totally unrestricted & it got all the air it needed.
Once the top 20 floors or so started a downward movement, the momentum wouldn't be stoppable.
The math on an object being raised or lowered at 32 ft per minute is basicly a load of 1000lbs is stopped, the weight factor on the lifting mechanism goes to 3 times the weight of the load or in this case 3000lbs.
So if its velocity is faster the weight of the load increases exponentially.


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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 16:34:54 Reply

Grammar, take a deep breath.

And Stop.

We know. We know, Just redirect another site.

Please by the Grace of God and the Holy Mother.

Just don't.


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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 21:19:37 Reply

Get a professor in physics from a famous university.

I'm glad that Rosie doesn't even know what she's talking about when she's suggesting a way to find proof.

But if it makes any difference, a professor at my university, who has a doctorate in structural engineering and specializes in how structures behave in fire, happens to think that it's entirely plausible for a building to fall like that.

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 22:52:47 Reply

At 4/3/07 08:59 AM, Korriken wrote: Rosie is the biggest piece of Liberal Diahhrea that the world has ever seen, on par with even cindy sheehan. I can't fathom why anyone would listen to them.

...And on the other side of the token, you have Rush Limbaugh.

The Pill-popping, Liberal-conspiracy-theorist, Michal J. Fox impersonator-wannabe.


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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-03 22:55:12 Reply

At 4/3/07 06:16 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Oh come on.

The day this slag says something intelligent or non-deceitful is the day I wear a tutu and do the river dance.

Which is even further unlikely, because I don't think Riverdance uses tutus....

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-04 02:43:24 Reply

Uhh, what terrible TV. Its a bunch of ignorant house wives telling us all how to run America. LOL.

This is why they would never give a TV show to someone like us (which is essentially what they are all like) because we are all a bunch of ignorant retards who dont understand fair debate. Anyone can look like a genius when they pull a few hard facts out their ass and the other person debating may have suspicions the other party is bullshiting but no way to prove it. For a fair debate on a topic you cant steer the debate in the direction you want and then ambush the other side, like Dykie did, with a few authoritative sounding statements.

This is why you only let experts debate eachother, everyone else is an idiot with little more than opinions based on superfical appearences.

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-04 03:16:32 Reply

That woman if I can even call her that seriously makes my skin crawl. I was not even able to watch it all it made me want to slap her .


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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-04 03:37:04 Reply

At 4/4/07 03:16 AM, troubles1 wrote: I was not even able to watch it all it made me want to slap her .

I'd refrain if I were you.

I hear she's got the ability to absorb people into her rolls of cellulose.

I've lost too many friends that way.

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-04 08:51:40 Reply

At 4/3/07 05:32 AM, Drakim wrote: Uhm, I remember some people talking about this before. (digs up key points)

"Steel melts at 1525° C"
"Jet fuel burns only at 825° C"
BUT
"Steel loses 50% of its strength at 648 ° C"

Wouldn't the tower collapse if the steel was weakened like that?

*Applause* Well put sir. Its a shame that you cant get the conspiracy theorists to accept those facts.

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-04 08:55:33 Reply

LOCK THREAD we dont need another 9/11 conspiracy thread.

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-04 09:04:33 Reply

Was that a sneaky bit of backseat modding I saw =p

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-04 10:45:43 Reply

At 4/4/07 08:55 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: LOCK THREAD we dont need another 9/11 conspiracy thread.

The thread isn't about discussing the 9/11 conspiracy; I'm wondering why so many people take why this political dunce has so much influence with the garbage she spews. I simple underestimated modern America's lack of ability to view things analyticaly. It doesn't sound like a lot of people in here agree with most of what she says, and random NG posters believe in a lot of crazy shit. So I'm going to take that as a good sign; a teeny sliver of hope.


I must lollerskate on this matter.

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-04 15:51:37 Reply

Har har har!

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-04 15:56:30 Reply

At 4/4/07 03:51 PM, SpoogeRag wrote: Har har har!

i wonder how pissed he was to have done this.


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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-04 16:16:51 Reply

At 4/4/07 03:56 PM, SolInvictus wrote:
At 4/4/07 03:51 PM, SpoogeRag wrote: Har har har!
i wonder how pissed he was to have done this.

When is he ever not pissed?

Also, be sure to check out this.

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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-04 16:33:04 Reply

I hate the view. They think they no so much about politics, and they're also spreading the one thing they dislike... propaganda.


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Response to Fire can't melt steel, you morons 2007-04-05 23:37:23 Reply

this was out for a while but giving the fact that this woman besides being FAT, UGLY, And stupid, and probably sending money to terrorist organisations around the world. OK maybe I went to far but I can't stand the woman. this was Donald Trump making fun of that horrible person.
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