Euthanasia-stance?

[yodd]

Euthanasia For those of you who don't know the term, nor heard of it, I will quickly fill you in.

Euthanasia is mostly known as Doctor assisted suicide, which it is. Over the past few years, Euthanasia has become an extremely large debate of whether it should be legalized. Currently, it is only legal in six countries, and Oregon (Ohio California maybe, no research done on these states).

To be Euthanized one must be in an extreme medical shape causeing grave pain either physically or mentally. And it has to be in a situation where almost no hope lies.

I THINK YOU GET THE POINT OF WHAT IT IS.

Personally, i am all for the idea of euthanasia. And I have reasons to back me up.

First off, with the physical pain people who get Euthanized go through, it is not only an option but I think of Euthanasia as a freedom. Nobody should have to suffer the pain, and live for who knows how long in such circumstances. I truly do believe it should be ones choice if they want to or not. Euthanasia is a quick injection from a needle, much like what happens to our pets, literally no pain other than a needle poke. Painless.

Second of all (and I hate to get this into a religous debate). The main reason why the operation is outlawed is mostly due to religion. I flip into my atlas which lies next to me and it says 19% of the world is Aethiest/Agnostic. Most all religions are against the performing of Euthanasia, thus it has been set back. Us "non-believers" aren't saying you have to, but rather it should be a choice. Keep in mind peoples beliefs and morals do stray from yours, therefore an option should be there. And keeping that in mind, not all religous people are against. A study done in 2004 states that about 60% of Americans are for the idea, a substancial amount of Christians considering that America is roughly estimated by me 20% no belief.

Since this is a debate as of now, Thought I might bring it up. Please try and be respectful, keep it in debating but not flaming. Thanks.

[Bolo]

Well, just for the record, about 16% of the world is non-religious, not 19% as you stated.

Also, I agree that Doctor assisted suiciddde should be legal if the patient wishes to go through with it.

I find it kind of ironic that the Republicans against the right to D.A. Suicide are the same ones who'll do whatever it takes to protect their precious right to bear AK47's in the street.

So it's not okay to encourage killing, except with guns?

[JakeHero]

I think Euthanasia should be legalized. What I am against is my tax dollars going toward someone wanting to kill themselves because they squandered all their money on lottery tickets.

Back in the old days you didn't need the states permission to hang yourself.

[Ravariel]

At 3/29/07 08:41 PM, JakeHero wrote:
Back in the old days you didn't need the states permission to hang yourself.

You don't now... but when you can't tie the rope, eat the pills, or get over the balcony ledge... yer kinda screwed. We only really need the State's permission to tie the rope for someone else...

[Memorize]

At 3/29/07 06:36 PM, Bolo wrote:

So it's not okay to encourage killing, except with guns?

Haha, thanks to me you've become another douche bag on the forum! Can't make a post without hitting a side can't you? haha!

It's so much fun since I can say the same. You're for assisted suicide, for abortion, yet anti gun and anti-death penalty. OH THE HYPOCRACY!

And despite that little fact on how many of those gun-supporting bastards are only against assisted suicide when that person can get mental help. They don't want any depressed person to attempt suicide when they've taken close to no chance on trying to rid themselves of the illness.

Anyway, in cases where psychological and/or physical harm will prevail in the patiant thru-out most of his/her life with no signs of a cure, then yes, i'm for assisted suicide.

No reason why terminally ill patiants should have to wait months until they get the "ok" when they could very well die within that time.

[fireball6283]

If your a pussy, take euthanasia. If you wanna be a real man, take the fucking pain.

Euthanasia wastes money if the gov. pays for it. If you do, you're a pussy

Wastes our money is all I can say.

[yodd]

At 3/29/07 09:53 PM, fireball6283 wrote: If your a pussy, take euthanasia. If you wanna be a real man, take the fucking pain.

Euthanasia wastes money if the gov. pays for it. If you do, you're a pussy

Wastes our money is all I can say.

If you think Euthanasia costs the government money, you are fucking stupid.

Syringe with a chemical costs like 10$

Keeping in life support ( a coma even) For up to three years = thousands.

Just think about it.

[fireball6283]

At 3/29/07 09:59 PM, yodd wrote:

If you think Euthanasia costs the government money, you are fucking stupid.

Syringe with a chemical costs like 10$

Keeping in life support ( a coma even) For up to three years = thousands.

Just think about it.

Why good point sir. Then I say JUST SHOOT THE BASTARDS. One bullet costs like $1.00.

Just think about it.

[yodd]

At 3/29/07 10:03 PM, fireball6283 wrote: good point sir. Then I say JUST SHOOT THE BASTARDS. One bullet costs like $1.00.

Just think about it.

That has nothing to do with it, shooting has nothing to do with Euthanasia.

[Tancrisism]

At 3/29/07 06:36 PM, Bolo wrote: I find it kind of ironic that the Republicans against the right to D.A. Suicide are the same ones who'll do whatever it takes to protect their precious right to bear AK47's in the street.

So it's not okay to encourage killing, except with guns?

You apparently have never listened to anyone pro-gun speak before. If guns were to be completely legal, more people would concievably have them. Thus, possibly, less shootings would occur; or if they were to occur, they'd be stopped sooner.

Then again, I'm not for AK's to be used on the street, but handguns can be concealed, methinks.

And I'm pro-euthenasia, for the record. If I were to be a vegetable, I'd like to be given the decency to be allowed to die.

[ironzealot]

i'm all for it, if you don't have the right do die, what right do you have?

[vol7678]

personally I wouldn't go with that option. Who the hell knows what is on the other side and if a crappy life full of pain is all that there is I will take the crap and the pain over oblivion.

But it is still an individuals right to chose what to do with there own body. And i can't understand the government's stance on forcing termanaly ill patients who are suffering to go on suffering if they want to just end their own suffering.

[Freemind]

I am for euthanasia if people want it. This may seem hypocritical seeing how I am prolife and anti death penalty but it is their own life they are taking in this case, not someone elses. I think they should have the right to if they want.

[RedSkunk]

I support euthanasia if the person is in a condition to be able to request it, or if they have left a living will or clearly dictated their wishes to the next of kin.

[homs]

People keep bringing up this crap about the death penalty and abortion, saying that if you are against these two things then it is hypocritical to be against voluntary euthanasia. However, these subjects are VERY different, holding the one common thread that human life is involved. The death penalty, as well as abortion are both involuntary loss of life one's, whereas euthanasia is the voluntary loss of one's life. There really is no comparason, and is completely logical (and non-hypocritical) to be pro- one and anti- another.

[yodd]

At 3/30/07 12:16 PM, RedSkunk wrote: I support euthanasia if the person is in a condition to be able to request it, or if they have left a living will or clearly dictated their wishes to the next of kin.

I thought putting such a situation on a wll was actually not allowed.

NOTHING TO SUPPORT ME, JUST GOING WITH WHAT I THINK I HAVE HEARD.

[Altarus]

Sure, why not? If you believe it is immoral, then show us in the Bible where suicide is forbidden.

[vol7678]

At 3/30/07 11:31 PM, Altarus wrote: Sure, why not? If you believe it is immoral, then show us in the Bible where suicide is forbidden.

Caltholics genrally give the argument that murder is murder even if you are killing your self and as such suicide is a mortal sin. watch constantine

[Gunter45]

If someone wants to ice themself, they should at least have the conviction to do it themself. You should have the right to kill yourself, but having somebody else do it for you is by no means a right, it's murder.

From the medical standpoint, if someone is terminally and painfully ill, if someone is on life support, or any such situation, they should be able to have the right for the doctor to end their pain. If a person is in a coma, a person with whom they have given power of attorney should be able to make the call.

[Altarus]

At 3/31/07 01:41 AM, vol7678 wrote: Caltholics genrally give the argument that murder is murder even if you are killing your self and as such suicide is a mortal sin. watch constantine

Murder virtually always refers to the killing another person. The idea that "thou shalt not murder" condemns suicide is a liberal interpretation that the Church invented long after the text was written.