Will PETA end fishing?

[DarkKnight-ofShadows]

Hey, I don't know if anyone on here has ever gone fishing, but according to this article I found on MSN, it appears that some people are gonna try to END the sport of fishing. (http://www.msnbc.com/news/907199.asp?cp1=1) According to the article, scientists in Britain have determined that fish can actually feel pain, and so of course PETA has gone crazy trying to say fishing is "cruel and demanded an end to the sport."

I don't know about any of you, but I think that to end the sport is just ridiculous. We still have hunting, which hurts an animal a LOT more.

Oh well, I'm just curious as to your views of this topic, because personally I love to fish, even though I don't get to do it very often. It can be boring, but it gives me time to reflect on stuff and write songs/poetry.

[thecerealkiller]

hmmm i guess bunnies dont feel pain we we blow their hind legs off either...also most ppl throw fish back if its jsut for fun....which i what most fishin is FUN

[DarkKnight-ofShadows]

At 5/3/03 01:15 PM, 0ZeroHour0 wrote: hmmm i guess bunnies dont feel pain we we blow their hind legs off either...

uh....what?

[Miles]

yeah there realy not gonna end fishing sense its one of the biggest, if not the biggest, inderstry in the world. them stoping fishing would be impossible no matter how many gay hunger strikes they do

[Dagodevas]

Ah, those poor, crazy PETA's. Won't they ever stop trying to tell people how they should go about living their lives with other animals?

[SereneDarkness]

At 5/3/03 01:29 PM, Kazuo_Kiriyama wrote: Ah, those poor, crazy PETA's. Won't they ever stop trying to tell people how they should go about living their lives with other animals?

If people could live with equality among the creatures we share the world with, US from PETA wouldnt have to tell you how to live with animals

[Dagodevas]

At 5/3/03 01:34 PM, SereneDarkness wrote: If people could live with equality among the creatures we share the world with, US from PETA wouldnt have to tell you how to live with animals

Perhaps, but it is in a way natural for us to fish and hunt animals. We're the top of the food chain. Now, I am the kind of guy who admires hunting for sport (I'm more for hunting for food), but the way we naturally "coexist" with animals is by hunting them and eating them. It is in our nature to do so. The more adapted organism eats the less adapted organism. Other creatures do it and so do we. It's just as more civilized creatures, we prefer to make more of a sport out of it.

[DarkKnight-ofShadows]

At 5/3/03 01:34 PM, SereneDarkness wrote: If people could live with equality among the creatures we share the world with, US from PETA wouldnt have to tell you how to live with animals

Oh believe me, I'll live equally with the animals. While my cousins and I cook the fish we catch over the summer. Mwahahahaha.

Seriously though, I'm all for the humane treatment of animals, but you treehuggers just take it waaaaaay too far. It almost seems as if you would jump in front of a bullet going toward a deer rather than another human being.

[SereneDarkness]

Oh believe me, I'll live equally with the animals. While my cousins and I cook the fish we catch over the summer. Mwahahahaha.

Seriously though, I'm all for the humane treatment of animals, but you treehuggers just take it waaaaaay too far. It almost seems as if you would jump in front of a bullet going toward a deer rather than another human being.

If worst comes to worst., I would sacrifice my life for a life of a defenseless animal, I dnt mind people who eat meat, as long as you dont waste it, like people who hunt for sport

[sk1tso]

If worst comes to worst., I would sacrifice my life for a life of a defenseless animal, I dnt mind people who eat meat, as long as you dont waste it, like people who hunt for sport

Would you sacrifice your life for a squirrel? a rat? a mouse? a hampster?

I dunno, just curious ...

[Taxman2A]

We have no problem co-existing with animals the way that nature intended. We coexist with nature like cheetahs, lions, and every other predator on the top of the food chain does.

[Chris-1]

if they get rid of fishing i will rip out their eyes and shove em down their pants so they can watch me kick the crap out of tem the i will use their tounges 2 paint my boat

[DarkKnight-ofShadows]

At 5/3/03 02:22 PM, FaTb0y wrote: if they get rid of fishing i will rip out their eyes and shove em down their pants so they can watch me kick the crap out of tem the i will use their tounges 2 paint my boat

LOL.... I"m sorry, I just had to comment on this one. Me and my girlfriend both cracked up on that one. :) Me especially, and she said it sounds like something her dad would say.

[Stinko-Man]

At 5/3/03 01:44 PM, SereneDarkness wrote:

I dnt mind people who eat meat, as long as you dont waste it, like people who hunt for sport

Finally, a reasonable PETA representative. I didn't think they existed. Thank you, sir.

[Jose]

At 5/3/03 01:44 PM, SereneDarkness wrote:
If worst comes to worst., I would sacrifice my life for a life of a defenseless animal,

Most animals arn't defenseless, they're just to stupid to figure out whats going on.

But wait, do you drive an automobile? (leather seats)
Do you eat food (meat-animal slaughter, plants-work horses)

WE ARE ANIMALS, AND WERE DESIGNED TO KILL. If you don't believe that, then you are more gulibal than I thought. I have an idea, kill yourself and save the oxygen for the animals.

[Explodapop]

If we couldn't hurt animals, we would no longer be on top of the food chain. I don't like the thought of that.

[DarkKnight-ofShadows]

At 5/3/03 03:00 PM, Ghost_of_Pzyk00 wrote: If we couldn't hurt animals, we would no longer be on top of the food chain. I don't like the thought of that.

No kidding. If we weren't at the top of the food chain, then we would be in some serious trouble.

[DrxFeelgood]

Seriously though, I'm all for the humane treatment of animals, but you treehuggers just take it waaaaaay too far. It almost seems as if you would jump in front of a bullet going toward a deer rather than another human being.

If worst comes to worst., I would sacrifice my life for a life of a defenseless animal, I dnt mind people who eat meat, as long as you dont waste it, like people who hunt for sport

People who hunt for sport eat the meat. Venison is good.

[Necrothesis]

The only thing PETA will ever put an end to is the free-thinking minds of impressionable children.

Eat meat, love life.

[NEMESiSZ]

Peta also tried to ban Milk. Don't even pay attention to those idiots.

[DarkKnight-ofShadows]

At 5/3/03 04:30 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Peta also tried to ban Milk. Don't even pay attention to those idiots.

MILK!? Those SOB's! I love milk, what is their freaking problem? Grr... I'd beat up a treehugger right now but I'd get arrested for hurting a stupid animal. :-D

hehe, and to any of you who is PETA, I'm just kidding about the beating up thing so don't get offended.

[SereneDarkness]

At 5/3/03 03:30 PM, the_dark_knight63 wrote:

At 5/3/03 03:00 PM, Ghost_of_Pzyk00 wrote: If we couldn't hurt animals, we would no longer be on top of the food chain. I don't like the thought of that.

No kidding. If we weren't at the top of the food chain, then we would be in some serious trouble.

If we weren't at the top of the food chain, Then we would know what it was like to be a chicken or a cow, And that would be scary, But just think of ranch where there are humans being fed to be killed, just so higher organisms can eat us

[DarkKnight-ofShadows]

At 5/3/03 04:42 PM, SereneDarkness wrote: If we weren't at the top of the food chain, Then we would know what it was like to be a chicken or a cow, And that would be scary, But just think of ranch where there are humans being fed to be killed, just so higher organisms can eat us

The difference between us and the chicken or cow is that we were created as the higher beings of this world. The animals serve their own purpose in life as do we. We eat the animals and plants grown on this earth so we can survive. If the human race were not the top of the food chain, then the world's structure would be unbalanced.

And if you think about it, other animals kill chickens and cows besides us. hmmm....

[Necrothesis]

At 5/3/03 04:42 PM, SereneDarkness wrote:

If we weren't at the top of the food chain, Then we would know what it was like to be a chicken or a cow, And that would be scary, But just think of ranch where there are humans being fed to be killed, just so higher organisms can eat us

If you were a fly your life would suck even more. Put yourself in the place of a fly, around its territorial enemies. I don't see anyone creating websites boycotting these billions of spiders and dragonflys who every day take the life innocent flies.

Every 5 seconds, an amount of flies equal to that of humans killed i the holocaust is destroyed. Woe is me!

[SereneDarkness]

The difference between us and the chicken or cow is that we were created as the higher beings of this world. The animals serve their own purpose in life as do we. We eat the animals and plants grown on this earth so we can survive. If the human race were not the top of the food chain, then the world's structure would be unbalanced.

And if you think about it, other animals kill chickens and cows besides us. hmmm....

That is very very true, I like how you argue without any cursing at me haha, Its just I dont approve in how they slaughter and hold these "live stock" in quaretine there whole life, They are being raised to be killed, thas just unsettling

[T0MMY]

Humans, top of the "food chain?"

Give me a break! This made up food chain chart, which none of you have probably seen because I don't think it's ever been recorded, is simply another mad-conceived invention to do what we will without being guilty about it.
Think about it, you throw a person in a cage with almost ANY animal and who are you going to put your money on to win? The lion? The bear? The wolf? Heck, even insects kill people!!!
All of you think PETA is closed-minded, but I can say we're ALL closed minded about something. Why do you think people actually believe we're at the top of this "food chain"? Humans were made for scavenging and cultivating (hence no claws or fangs), sorry, we're made to eat what we can catch: plants.
By the way, I'm not supporting anything PETA says, mostly because I don't know what they say, but I am stating facts here to get you guys to actually think rather than go extreme with one side or the other.

-T0MMY

[SereneDarkness]

If you were a fly your life would suck even more. Put yourself in the place of a fly, around its territorial enemies. I don't see anyone creating websites boycotting these billions of spiders and dragonflys who every day take the life innocent flies.

Every 5 seconds, an amount of flies equal to that of humans killed i the holocaust is destroyed. Woe is me!

You are right that is true, But as many people dont know, PETA is for insects also, there ae alot of campaigns to stop use of some bug killers and many other pro-insect campaigns

[Necrothesis]

At 5/3/03 04:54 PM, SereneDarkness wrote:

That is very very true, I like how you argue without any cursing at me haha, Its just I dont approve in how they slaughter and hold these "live stock" in quaretine there whole life, They are being raised to be killed, thas just unsettling

If it weren't for us having a demand to eat them, there wouldn't be ANY chickens or cows in North America. PETA, who would like to believe they are saving cows/chickens, has ideals which would make it so there would be far less of either animal.

That doesn't seem like saving to me.

[DarkKnight-ofShadows]

At 5/3/03 04:57 PM, SereneDarkness wrote: You are right that is true, But as many people dont know, PETA is for insects also, there ae alot of campaigns to stop use of some bug killers and many other pro-insect campaigns

Haha, you might get mad at me for this one, but... do you drive a car? Do you have any idea how many bugs we kill within a 5-minute period while driving? Hehe, trust me, there is no reason to not kill bugs. They're annoying and usually end up on the bottom of my newspaper.

[Necrothesis]

At 5/3/03 04:55 PM, T0MMY wrote: Humans, top of the "food chain?"

Think about it, you throw a person in a cage with almost ANY animal and who are you going to put your money on to win? The lion? The bear? The wolf? Heck, even insects kill people!!!

This shows that humans are FAR superior to the other animals. As even though they can be physically defeated in one-on-one encounters (as you'd like to use to distribute ranks of superiority by, apparently), they have the mind power to create society and machinery to control them as they wish. Thus making humans FAR superior, with this level of sentience seen nowhere else in the animal kingdom.

All of you think PETA is closed-minded, but I can say we're ALL closed minded about something.

And that excuses PETA for being closed-minded?
Right..

Why do you think people actually believe we're at the top of this "food chain"?

Because we are - how many humans a day do you hear about being eaten by bears in modern western society?

Humans were made for scavenging and cultivating

Thank you, Jesus. I love how you have all the answers as to what we are "made for". I never knew you PETA folk were such creationists.

sorry, we're made to eat what we can catch: plants.

We can catch cows quite easily. Hell, we have them herded an distributed all under our own control. The cows don't get away on cattle farmers too often, that I can tell.