Palestinians OR Kurds?

[karasz]

Who deserves a country more? Palestinians OR the Kurds???

Both=lost country to westerners, broken up in factions, want a country of their own

Palestinian= Straps bombs up and kills jews, also has backing of Arab states and runs on anti-jew sentiment

Kurds= Arabs wont give them a state, they kill no people, and have had a pretty decent autonomous govt while saddam was runnin iraq, and that will probably stay like that

also it should be noted neither one is actually going to get their own country, cuz israel wont give up any land, and the kurds (the new jews[in the sense that they get killed by Turkey, Iran, Iraq and nobody gives a fuck]) if given their own country would probably flee from turkey and iran and those countries dont need a refugee crisis...

[Jiperly]

its my understanding that ll natons in that area that ave kurds(turkey, Iraq, Iran, ect) seem to think the kurds are terrorists- so i doubt that they hadn't harmed anyone

[Nirvana13666]

The Kurds have never had their own government. Their desire for cultural and political independence has led to conflicts between them and the governments under which they live. Every effort to establish self-government has been crushed.

The Palestinians want their own state, but in order to achieve that end it may or may not involve the destruction of Israel (depending on the Palestinian you talk to). The Palestinians have relied on a revoltingly immoral means like suicide bombing. The practice of the bombings is used to kill not only Israeli soldiers but civilians, including women and children. How can a people who approve of this act of violence achieve statehood? It is a fact that not only a few Palestinians actually approve of suicide bombing. Polls, taken by Palestinians, have indicated time after time that more than 60 percent of the people endorse it. The Palestinians' commitment to suicide bombing is so strong that there is no shortage of their number willing to do the deed. Hamas and the other terrorist organizations justify the use of suicide bombers as saying it is the most effective way for the Palestinians to force the Israelis to disappear completely from the West Bank and Gaza. They think it is the first step towards the creation of a Palestinian state. What if Israel did get out, what would come next? I figure they’d be in a position to build a state. They would have to confront those immoral acts produced by years of suicide bombing including the readiness to diminish human life, the tendency of ignoring the significance of personal safety and the basic feelings for others, and little patience with compromise. Can Palestinians create a reasonable state? Can they form a democracy, as some Palestinian leaders say they want?

[FUNKbrs]

The Kurds, but they should get Iraq. (why? because I said so, thats why)

[TheShrike]

I think the palestinians deserve their own country more.

Why? Because the Palestinians were basically forced out of their own country. I support the two separate states approach.

[karasz]

At 5/2/03 12:03 PM, Nirvana13666 wrote: The Kurds have never had their own government. Their desire for cultural and political independence has led to conflicts between them and the governments under which they live. Every effort to establish self-government has been crushed.

do u know this for a fact? i just talked to one of my poli sci teachers and he wasnt sure of this... and evidence would be nice too...

The Palestinians have relied on a revoltingly immoral means like suicide bombing. The practice of the bombings is used to kill not only Israeli soldiers but civilians, including women and children. How can a people who approve of this act of violence achieve statehood? It is a fact that not only a few Palestinians actually approve of suicide bombing. Polls, taken by Palestinians, have indicated time after time that more than 60 percent of the people endorse it.

so what your saying is since they arent going to stop the suicide bombings we should give them their own country? isnt that like giving the guy robbing a bank bullets?

[yesaspoon]

Ok, i believe that the kurds do deserve a nation of their own first, but BUT, the palestinians arent exactly that evil mate, its only some organizations.

[Slizor]

The Palestinians want their own state, but in order to achieve that end it may or may not involve the destruction of Israel (depending on the Palestinian you talk to). The Palestinians have relied on a revoltingly immoral means like suicide bombing.

Yes revoltingly immoral, I mean, blowing yourself up! They're nothing like the moral Israelis with their tanks, Cruise Missiles, Rifles and Planes. They're almost saintly!