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At 3/10/07 11:41 PM, Gwarfan wrote:

Because if you were talking about that, then talk to the parents and their internet lax internet site blocking restrictions.

Parents in general aren't that smart. And why would any kid want to tell their parents to block it?

At 3/10/07 11:33 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 3/10/07 11:26 PM, Gwarfan wrote:

I'm all for non-abusive porn where all the actors have knowledge about what is going on around them, whatever you fap to should stay on your computer.

Because children as young as 7 can access it very easily.

I was able to do it at that age.

I don't think you and I are talking about the same thing. You are talking about pornography accessability. Talk to the parents about their lax internet site restrictions. I'm talking about the legal status of a perticular type of pornography that would ease tensions between pedophiles and their potential victims.

Agghh...I fucked up these posts....

and you are giving parents enough credit.....

At 3/10/07 11:43 PM, Gwarfan wrote:

I'm talking about the legal status of a perticular type of pornography that would ease tensions between pedophiles and their potential victims.

And i'm talking about how people are going to argue how things like this can damage a child who sees it.

Personally I hate it when people use that. Saying Video games are to blame, or violence on tv, yadi yada yada.

Well it should be a parents responsibility to watch what their child does on the internet to see that they aren't watching these videos if their parents don't want them to, exactly how a parent doesn't want their child buying or watching movies or video games that they don't want their kid playing or watching.

It's just glorified pedophilia.

At 3/10/07 11:42 PM, Memorize wrote: Parents in general aren't that smart.

Though a helpful addition, it does not take a high amount of intelligence to have and upkeep good morals.

And why would any kid want to tell their parents to block it?

As an act of good discipline?

At 3/11/07 01:04 AM, TheSovereign wrote: It's just glorified pedophilia.

Glorified implies that its being hailed as someting absolutely fantastic, but as you can see from this topic, its nothing of the sort ; its still looked down upon.

At 3/11/07 09:56 AM, Boltrig wrote:

Glorified implies that its being hailed as someting absolutely fantastic, but as you can see from this topic, its nothing of the sort ; its still looked down upon.

Hey, to be truthful, I find it fantastic.

Ah.. anyways, i did a little test recently on this subject. On a few "adult oriented" sites, I created a poll, because they have poll buttons, asking the members of each community if it should be legal. None of these sites contained lolicon. In 3 of the 4 sites, about 75% of the people who polled, about 30-50 people per poll, said it should be legal. They said it was freedom of speech/expresion, just pictures, and it was a form of art. I don't care to mention the last site because of the 45 people who voted, 3 said it sould be legal (it was a religious site). They barked on about how it was a sin against God and that people who even thought about it would burn in hell.

As i said before, people shouldn't care what others do in privacy as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. But anyways, just sayin some results i found and doin a little ranting.

At 3/12/07 03:10 AM, MortalWound wrote:

Hey, to be truthful, I find it fantastic.

I think you may just have painted a massive bullseye on yourself. Prepare for the insults!

Ah.. anyways, i did a little test recently on this subject. On a few "adult oriented" sites, I created a poll, because they have poll buttons, asking the members of each community if it should be legal. None of these sites contained lolicon. In 3 of the 4 sites, about 75% of the people who polled, about 30-50 people per poll, said it should be legal. They said it was freedom of speech/expresion, just pictures, and it was a form of art.

Thing is, youre on an adult oriented site. Youre talking to people who are predisposed to the p0rn

I don't care to mention the last site because of the 45 people who voted, 3 said it sould be legal (it was a religious site). They barked on about how it was a sin against God and that people who even thought about it would burn in hell.

Thats going from one extreme to the other. You need to find some middle ground and create a poll for your arguments to have validity

Let us know how that goes.

At 3/12/07 04:00 AM, Boltrig wrote:

I think you may just have painted a massive bullseye on yourself. Prepare for the insults!

Yeah I know but I kind of want attention even if it is harsh criticism

Thing is, youre on an adult oriented site. Youre talking to people who are predisposed to the p0rn

Well, yeah but even though they look at porn doesn't mean they don't have standards for themselves. They may look at it but can still say one form of it is absolutely disgusting. And not everyone who looks at porn only think about porn. An example, I look at porn but believe that beastiality should never se the light of day. It is wrong and disgusting. The same can be said about my preferences.

Thats going from one extreme to the other. You need to find some middle ground and create a poll for your arguments to have validity

Well, my argument does have validity considering the only people truely affected by it are those in the extremes. Also problem I found with polling neutral places is that any place i tried to find in the middle, had no poll option, like this BBS for instance.

Also, I am going to go around to a few different places to do further research on the matter, I've just been lazy.

At 3/10/07 11:33 PM, Memorize wrote: Because children as young as 7 can access it very easily.

I was able to do it at that age.

Yeah, and you know what? Once you're done moving all the scissors and stairs out of the country to protect children, you'll realize it would have been easier to monitor your kids or to teach them to cope with things instead of trying to eliminate them completely.

At 3/12/07 04:08 AM, MortalWound wrote:

At 3/12/07 04:00 AM, Boltrig wrote:

Thats going from one extreme to the other. You need to find some middle ground and create a poll for your arguments to have validity

Well, my argument does have validity considering the only people truely affected by it are those in the extremes. Also problem I found with polling neutral places is that any place i tried to find in the middle, had no poll option, like this BBS for instance.

Well the majority of the BBS seems to think its wrong. Granted there werent any intellegent arguments to back it up, just general shouts of "OMGWTFBBQ Thtas wrongz! you ppl r sik!"

What im saying is that the religious groups are obviously going to be against it, and porn site users predisposed to be for it.
I cant think of some neutral ground for this. The BBS was a good choice though, despite the fact that you get the preteen crowd offering under developed opinions.

At 3/4/07 03:11 PM, TonioMiguel wrote: I would be very careful in saying something has a better impact. Anything that substitutes for something else can be turned into a catalyst that leads people down a path of immorality.

I understand that back 2000 years ago both Greeks and Romans were well known for using prepubescent boys for sexual gratification. I do not feel this practice needs to ever become normalized. Destruction of innocence is dangerous and destructive.

Dont ever say that! the greeks were pedos, sure, but the romans generaly disliked it, althrough it was tolorated. In pre-christian rome being gay if you were not powerful to be above the law, would make you part of the 'Damnatii' the dammed, discraced, and unable to have jobs in the government.

Rome was mega conservative and the family was all-important to the romans.

it was a genneral feeling for romans to dismiss gays as being "too Greek"