Protesting is a sign of Stupidity

[Magna-Centipede]

The protestors of the war in Iraq are four things when it comes to personality traits: 1. Stupid 2. Have too much free time 3. Imaginative( don't necessarily think that is good) 4. willing to sacrifice dignity without batting an eye. It's hard to understand what goes on in the mind of these odd little people. They don't seem to understand that the President will not look at their little magic marker colored contact paper signs suspended on an old 2 by 4 and say " Oh crap, I guess we were wrong! Oh well , Dick, call off the war, will you? When you get around to it? Thanks". America is a proud country, which cannot be denied, unfortunately we've turned it over to the WRONG kind of people. When WTC happened, I was so shocked with the unbelievable amounts of bullshit the press was ACTUALLY interested in. They press COULD have spoken to experts on war or psychologists that specialize with psychopaths and religous zealots.. But no, that's NOT what they did. Instead they interviews idiots jogging on the streets with their tight bicycle pants and their terrifying bunched up packages and crappy theater Improv groups that WOULD still perform because if they didn't "The terrorists would win". Here's a news flash to those who are still delusional. The terrorists DID win. Their goal wasn't to make us scared. They aren't SILENT FILM VILLAINS! Their goal was to kill Americans, and on that level, they won. Now that we have gone to this war in Iraq, it seems we forgot about that whole little Al Queda thing. The only reason Bin Laden sent us that video tape was because his ratings dropped! Now, back onto protesting. If anyone reads this that IS a protestor, Stop, ok, you aren't inspiring anyone, or making anyone proud, you're only annoying us. And besides, you people ARE NOT that serious anyway. During the Vietnam war, a Buddhist monk named Thich Quang Duc doused himself in gasoline and imolated himself while chanting a sutra to protest the war. THAT was a serious protest, and still, it didn't stop the war. So what makes these protestors think that they're little anti-war car bumper stickers will? Gentle readers, don't ponder this TOO long, it may cause your brain to hemmorage...No really...stop thinking about it.... Dude, your eyes are convulsing!.. Think about something else for god's sake!

[FUNKbrs]

1: that was quite a rant

2: I may be pro war (not pro troops, but pro war), I but fully respect the right of antiwar demonstrators to vociferously express their opinions, as long as they dont disrupt the peace. Their voices help lend a sense of conscience to a country who as of late has acted as though it has none. While personally I think voting is the ultimate form of free speech, the second best form of free speech is the rally, be it for or against this current war. In order to stand for this country, I must stand for its constitution, and if I stand for the constitution, I must respect the right of people to disagree with me due to the right of free speech.

[Nirvana13666]

Magna you made it on my top ten list for saying the dumbest things. I think your other posts were informative and made nice debate topics so I really don’t get WTF this is.

Living in America gives us the right to not have to agree. Protesters are people who care enough to devote time out of their life to voice their opinion publicly. “Odd little people” is that what you think of people that question or disagree with authority? You wouldn’t have many civil liberties that exist today if it wasn’t for people that protest. People believe the world shouldn’t be this way and I think it is not only courageous and encouraging but admirable as well to see people go against the odds.

[Alejandro1]

You can't just call someone stupid if they don't have the same opinions as you do. Don't get me wrong, I support this war because Saddam has stiffed us over many times in the past and would have continued to be a threat to us and his allies; however, peaceful protesting is included in the first amendment, so these people are allowed to express their opinion.

I wouldn't worry though, these protesters (like in Vietnam) only express a small part of the greater population and cannot outweigh the pro-war support of most other Americans.

[Jiperly]

At 5/1/03 02:55 PM, Magna_Centipede wrote: The protestors of the war in Iraq are four things when it comes to personality traits: 1. Stupid

Mind telling me why were stupid for fighting what we believe in? I think the stupid people would have to be the ones that do nothing but complain, while the protestors are out there fighting to have their voice heard. I believe a trully stupid person would have no stance on the issues. A trully stupid person would not use their rights to fight a issue they feel so strongly about they go out in the streets and yell about it!

:2. Have too much free time 3. Imaginative( don't necessarily think that is good)

Ya....i do admit the showmanship of protestors is getting kinda thin.....

:4. willing to sacrifice dignity without batting an eye.

how is standing up for what you believe in(litterally) sacraficing dignity? Personally, i think these people are brave- hell, some people are risking their carreers for what they believe in- like Carlie Sheen for protesting the war in the streets and Don Cherry for Protesting Canada not going to war on his show. Do these people spare their dignity, or are they so brave and so strong in their beliefs that they are willing to spare their dignity if it causes change- would you be that brave?

:They don't seem to understand that the President will not look at their little magic marker colored contact paper signs suspended on an old 2 by 4 and say " Oh crap, I guess we were wrong! Oh well , Dick, call off the war, will you? When you get around to it? Thanks"

like i said before, i agree the showmanship of protestors is a joke, but they are still showing their opinions.

:Now, back onto protesting. If anyone reads this that IS a protestor, Stop, ok, you aren't inspiring anyone, or making anyone proud, you're only annoying us.

If you trully believe that protesting is for inspriation, then its no wonder why you do not protest- protesting is about making a stand against something within or outside of your nation that you believe unjust and wrong

Also, its not like its a couple of hundred of people protesting against the war- heres a few links:

http://www.internationalanswer.org/news/update/011903j18rpt.html

http://www.internationalanswer.org/news/update/031503m15rpt.html

http://www.internationalanswer.org/news/update/041203a12rpt.html

http://www.internationalanswer.org/archives.html

not to mentention the February 15th protest, that had the world largest protest in human history, with one in every 600 person protesting worldwide in a single day

:And besides, you people ARE NOT that serious anyway.

have you bothered to talk to a protestor, or did you sit on your couch and let other people make your decisions for you?

We have the right ot protest if we believe something is wrong with the world- and there is, so we WILL protest. you don't like it? then change the channel.

[Slizor]

Protesting is the lifeblood of representative democracies as it allows the population to effect the government between election times. Protesting is therefore a sign of under-representation as if the views were being expressed properly by opposition parties or the media then people would not have to protest.

[bumcheekcity]

At 5/1/03 05:22 PM, Slizor wrote: Protesting is the lifeblood of representative democracies as it allows the population to effect the government between election times. Protesting is therefore a sign of under-representation as if the views were being expressed properly by opposition parties or the media then people would not have to protest.

I dont agree. The massive protests with 1.5 million people+ in London wasn't because the media werent listening. It was because the government wasn't listening. The media had published articles for ages saying how wrong the war was.

Obviously the liberal papers, but you know what I mean.

[Ninja-Scientist]

I'd like to tell you all some true stories, many of which are personal:

At the bottom of my street, a pro-war shrine has been made by a number of people. There are dozens and dozens of posters backing Bush and "our troops" etc.

This I don't mind....However...

A while back, one person put a poster up there that said "no war."

Two days later, someone tore it down.

Then a few days ago, someone hung a sheet up on the fence that simply said, "peace."

Three days later, another person came by and shredded it with a knife.

A few weeks ago, a group of about 12 people gathered on that corner in support of the war. A news station covered it (must have been a slow news day) and many people drove by honking.

A few days later, 4 lone women sat at that same corner with a picture of their son/grandson and a sign that said "stop the war, bring my son home." No news station covered it and no one honked.

By my grandmother's house a little ways there was once a billboard that read, "support our troops by sending them home." A week later it was painted over with white and a banner was hung under it that said "be American, support the war" in red, white, and blue.

Earlier, man was arrested at a mall for wearing a shirt that said "no war" on it. The mall authorities told him he had to leave for wearing such a "controversial message" on his shirt. He refused to leave because he felt that it was his freedom of speech to wear the shirt. He was then arrested for "tresspassing."

A man was violently kicked of a the O'Reilly Factor for talking about now Bush Sr. supported the Taliban who killed his father on 9/11, because it made pro-war Mr. O'Reilly "look bad."

Another reporter was fired recently for participating in an anti-war rally because it was "bad publicity" for the station.

The Dixie Chicks CD's were burned and there were many "DC hating" rallies held recently simply because the girls added a single unflattering line about Bush in one of their songs (now that's having too much time on your hands. lol).

No one at these CD burning rally's were arrested, yet many of the people who participate in even the most peaceful of anti-war rallies are usually hauled off by police.

Four days ago, I talked to someone who was pro-war on NG who thought that Iraq attacked us on 9/11.

Then two days ago, I talked to a pro-war person on NG who thought that we were attacking a land called Al Queda.

And the list goes on and on. *sigh*

Now, I could easily say that pro-war individuals are stupid (many of the one's I talked to didn't even know who we were fighting and yet supported that we were).

And I could easily say that they have too much time on their hands (to burn CD's that have one line about disliking Bush, or to bother going accross a street just to knife up a sheet that says "peace").

In fact, no offense to all of you, but needless to say, I have had mostly bad experiences in dealing with pro-war people.

If you talk about what America has done to Iraq in the past, they call you "anti-American."

One man told me that I "want all POWs to die" just because I was upset at how anti-war beliefs and people are being treated by our culture (as mentioned above----not sure how he got that out of it).

If you don't like Bush, then they say you "hate America" or tell you to "leave it then" (which doesn't even make any sense, since Bush and America aren't the same thing).

They call you a "commie" or a "terrorist supporter" or a "crack smoking hippy" or even a "bitch."

And yet they have nothing to contradict your points and nothing to support their own, other than slogans they saw off of TV.

Fact is, the majority of pro-war individuals I have delt with know nothing about the war they are supporting, and they are often become very childishly violent when you try to contradict their points (like call you a "bitch," rip up a sheet, or burn CDs)....or they make sarcastic remarks rooted in prejudice that target a certain group for their beliefs. *cough* Remarks which are filled with absurd hyperbollies and which they cannot possibly prove. *cough*

I could easily say that all pro-war individuals are ignorant, violent, and crude, because those are the personal experiences I have had with them.

However, I know that that is not the case. I'm sure that there are some pro-war individuals out there who aren't bullies and who would never think to do something like rip up a sheet that says "peace" in their free time.

And I still respect their freedom of opinion, even if sometimes they don' t even know what their opinions are about.

However, it does make me upset when they target other people's opinions, which might I add, seems common among pro-war individuals.

How can you say that you "love America and it's freedoms......as long as no one uses those freedoms if I don't agree with them or if they contradict me."???

If you truly love your country, then you wouldn't want it to be like the other countries you hate (with no freedoms).

Fact is, due to my experiences, I could easily also make harsh prejudice generalizations about all people who are pro-war, but I neglect to do so, because I'm sure that there are some out there who are intelligent people as well.

All we anti-war individuals ask is that we recieve the same respect for our opinions as you do for yours, which as of now, we are not (look to all the examples I've mentioned).

So, all in all, I don't mind you being pro-war. But I do mind you being pro-pro-war and anti-anti-war, simply for the sake of it. You have no place to do so

[mrpopenfresh]

Wow, that may have been the most ignorant thing i have ever read. That rambling manifesto about protesters being dumb, i mean common, NOW THATS A SIGN OF STUPIDITY. Seriously though, there must be a 95% that youre a redneck patriotic texan.

[mrpopenfresh]

my last post fucked up so im not gonna do a big text; ill sum it up, youre dumb to post that.

[Alejandro1]

At 5/1/03 07:38 PM, Ninja_Scientist wrote: A whole shit load of stuff.

*whew* that was quite a long post. Yes, I agree on much of what you just said. Even though I am pro-war, I do not consider it stupid or unpatriotic if you don't support the war or any of Bush's decisions for that matter. The first amendment guarantees you freedom of speech, press, and assembly. By making anti-war demonstrations, you are exercising your democratic rights and are still being patriotic because you are preaching what you think would be best for the strength of our country, even if other people agree with another idea.

You have to remember, many pro-war people are not dumb and have very well thought out ideas for everything they preach. Likewise, there are as many dumb anti-war people as there are dumb pro-war people; I'm talking about the people who just say OMG BUSH IZ SOO GEY HEZ A COMPLEAT IDYOT ND IZ A DICKTATER.

Basically, all I'm trying to say is go with the ideas you feel are right, think out well knowledged debates for your ideas, and weed out all people who don't know what the hell is going on.

[JMHX]

This ranks up there for "Stupidest Topic Ever".

How can you be so incredibly ignorant as to say the protesters of the war are stupid? Well hell, why don't we just shred the entire First Amendment. Why not the Bill of Rights? How about we just become Fascist? Just because you don't like the protesters doesn't make them stupid. You probably were cornered by an anti-war argument and decided to come on here and call the masses stupid. Jee-sus.

[Alejandro1]

At 5/1/03 09:58 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: You probably were cornered by an anti-war argument and decided to come on here and call the masses stupid. Jee-sus.

God bless man. I don't know why they keep coming here but they are just annoying mosquitos and I'm doing my best to swat them away.

[karasz]

although i agree with ur topic, that protesting is stupid, ur rant destroys any chance u had of me actually caring about waht u think...

[D2Kvirus]

Incredible, yet another moron has been born, screaming into the world, and decides to use up all their Being Taken Remotely Seriously For Five Minutes karma up in one fowlk swoop, or should that be foul paragraph?

Once again, it shows that Pro-War protesters are 1.) Automotons, 2.) In the same boat as NEMESiSZ, 3.) Inbred Rednecks, and 4.) About 13 years old.

Oh, by the way, they are stupid if they're still protesting now: even Bush noticed it was over, a week after the rest of us generally assumed...

[FUNKbrs]

At 5/2/03 11:21 AM, D2KVirus wrote: Once again, it shows that Pro-War protesters are 1.) Automotons, 2.) In the same boat as NEMESiSZ, 3.) Inbred Rednecks, and 4.) About 13 years old.

I supported the war, but I dont support the occupation. Does that take the inbred part out of being a redneck? (this coming from Memphis TN)

[D2Kvirus]

At 5/2/03 11:30 AM, FUNKbrs wrote:
I supported the war, but I dont support the occupation. Does that take the inbred part out of being a redneck? (this coming from Memphis TN)

That means you only bang your cousins, I think.

Jeez, is there such a thing as a Sarcasm/Irony/Drole/Parody Alert I can plaster on some of my posts?

[FUNKbrs]

At 5/2/03 11:34 AM, D2KVirus wrote:

At 5/2/03 11:30 AM, FUNKbrs wrote:
I supported the war, but I dont support the occupation. Does that take the inbred part out of being a redneck? (this coming from Memphis TN)

That means you only bang your cousins, I think.

Wow, I wasnt thinking about it before, but some of my cousins ARE really hot. And here I was just breeding with myself this whole time.....

[D2Kvirus]

At 5/2/03 11:36 AM, FUNKbrs wrote:
Wow, I wasnt thinking about it before, but some of my cousins ARE really hot. And here I was just breeding with myself this whole time.....

Now THAT'S what I call limber...

[BigBoulette]

"3. Imaginative( don't necessarily think that is good) "

That shows your state of mind...

Imagination is always good.

[Jiperly]

At 5/2/03 11:36 AM, FUNKbrs wrote:

Wow, I wasnt thinking about it before, but some of my cousins ARE really hot. And here I was just breeding with myself this whole time.....

wait- we can sleep with attractive cousins now? cause i have this one cousin......

[Nirvana13666]

Magna posted this

[ZenGaijin]

Oh so i get it voicing your god given right to have a difference of opinion is stupid man your a peace of work so basically what your saying is that we should all become mindless drones and all think and act the exact same way how boring would that be i love the right to protest although i maynot agree with the people protesting the war i do agree with there right to voice there opinion.

[Jonas]

Please note that this topic is incredibly stupid, and the entire rant could have been better recieved if say you were to use it as a reply instead... regardless, this thread now holds no merit.

[nitroxide]

One of the reasons for this war is to give iraq a chance to be able to protest if they wanted to and tenguman your saying that protesters are stupid.Protesters are not there for the media they are acting out becuase there goverment wont listen...if they werent protesting they would be using more extreme measures like...terrorism thats what happens when noone listens to the people.On some level i do agree that they are stupid not for the courage to speak up but for such an unorganized attempt to make this goverment listen they will not listen to signs and protest chants and songs we need to attack our own goverment with direct force that is the only way we will regain our land.a revolution is much needed in society and not just here but around the world...the leaders of the free world have stolen what is rightfully ours. it isnt such a free world is it?