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No, I don't think the parents are to blame at all. I think it's a combination of bad eating, lack of exercise, and some lousy genes.

At 3/3/07 01:41 AM, give-it-away-now wrote: Uh, I'm pretty sure it's not just the parents' fault... the kids don't try to become active.. they sit around with their videogames and food and TV... the parents may play a small role in it by not showing an example, because maybe they do the same thing themselves..

I don't think genetics would be a big deciding factor... I know quite a few people, including myself, who have very large parents or grandparents... I like to think I'm in decent shape, and most of the people I know who have the same parents/grandparents are about the same as I am...

Don't go on a blaming trip and blame videogames and parents and media... the kids have just as much to do with it as anything

A child does things because they are allowed to in one way or another. Parents are the ones who set guidelines as to what their children can and cannot do, and if a child is acting inappropriately it usually falls back on parenting, or lack of.

An eight year old child being blamed primarily for being fat? No, that eight year old is doing what eight year olds do, in trying to take care of their own needs and wants first, damn what is acceptable and not acceptable. Eight year olds don't have their own set of guidelines as to, say, what to eat or how much to eat, they go by what they know is good and what they know isn't good.

At 3/6/07 07:19 AM, The-evil-bucket wrote: No, I don't think the parents are to blame at all. I think it's a combination of bad eating, lack of exercise, and some lousy genes.

This kids eight. Who buys his food? The parents! They also have the power to either take his console / tv away from him or say "C'mon, youve played enough videogames, go outside."

I cant comment for definate on the genes scenario, but there was recently a program on about it on TV here, andalthough I didnt watch it, all the trailers showed him eating junk food from the fridge, while his parents were standing there.

Seems to be the food / lack of excercise combo thats doin it.

Personally, I had Read about this during school the other day.
When Asked about his favorite foods, the boy replied saying that he loves sausage, steak, chicken, etc.
In most situations, I would view the overweight person as the one to blame for their condition,
But in this case, because of the child's age and the severity of his obesity, that the parent is the one at fault. There is no excuse for this. This child needs to be taught how to eat like an average human!

Personally, I hope that the mother loses custody of her son, at this rate, it's for the best.
just my 2 cents.

At 3/6/07 01:04 PM, Boltrig wrote: andalthough I didnt watch it, all the trailers showed him eating junk food from the fridge, while his parents were standing there.

Very convincing, definetly should be used as a source if you saw a trailer of it.

At 3/8/07 02:22 AM, fahrenheit wrote:

At 3/6/07 01:04 PM, Boltrig wrote: and although I didnt watch it, all the trailers showed him eating junk food from the fridge, while his parents were standing there.

Very convincing, definetly should be used as a source if you saw a trailer of it.

Fine, someone who watched the program care to back me up, because I know thats what went on in the program

And even if I didnt, from the trailer I can gleam the fact that he is allowed by his parents to eat junk food. They may have argued in the program that there were mitigating circumstances (waily waily, its glandular, etc) but Im not going to sit and be fed BS.

Absolutely. The parents are the ones deciding what the child can shove down his throat. Kids don't have limits, they have to be imposed.

fast food ads are more to blame.

It is the parent's fault, they see every day on the news a story about how mikky d's has made someone elses life hell and they still cave to their little brat's requests.

At 3/1/07 09:59 PM, packow wrote: It's obviously the fault of video games and those horrible black men in the media.

what do black people have to do with it?

At 3/9/07 01:20 PM, Noxvarg wrote: It is the parent's fault, they see every day on the news a story about how mikky d's has made someone elses life hell and they still cave to their little brat's requests.

I compleatly agree I've seen to many people try and blame fast food ads or junk food companys for their weight gain. But really all those ads did wa say 'Look here is the food we have it looks good come buy it' at no point was this food forced onto them.

but getting back to the point, this kid is eight his parents should be watching his diet more and when he got to fat to fit in most desks or when he lost sight of his toes the parents should have done something. I think its mostly the parents really not wanting the kid they want no responisability for what happens to him.

At 3/12/07 10:32 PM, Texsk8er56 wrote:

At 3/1/07 09:59 PM, packow wrote: It's obviously the fault of video games and those horrible black men in the media.

what do black people have to do with it?

Wkik:Irony

Look at Socratic Irony especially

Lols well, I wouldnt say that its the parent's fault. Its not the child's fault either. ITS THE FOOD!!! KILL THE FOOD!!! McDonalds u kill us all!!!!!!

At 3/1/07 09:59 PM, packow wrote: It's obviously the fault of video games and those horrible black men in the media.

i dont know why i found that funny

clearly it is the parents fault. if you feed your kid shit, theyll look like shit. conversely if you feed them healthy food and promote exercise, theyll more likely be healthier and carry that lifestyle and attitude into adulthood. if the kid is raised on dogcrap then hes going to develop a taste for it and weening him off of it is going to be difficult.

other factors include:

lifestyle
society
but primarily lazy and retarded parents.

Who feeds the child and descides what physical activity they are a part of?

Black people. [Sarcasm]

Parents take 50% of the blame because they let their son/daughter eat themselves to the point of fat fuck. And the kids take 50% of the blame for being hungry ass food munching motherfuckers, and don't give me that bullshit "well they don't know better, their just kids" I think even at an early stage in life you learn basic action/reaction correlations. If you eat a bunch of shit full of sugar and other bullshit, YOU GET FAT. They know food makes them fat but they don't give a shit, cause food is the most important thing in life for them, like heroin is to a junkie.

I blame the Democratic party.

At 6/27/07 10:29 PM, TheBasics wrote: Parents take 50% of the blame because they let their son/daughter eat themselves to the point of fat fuck.

Are you kidding? Theres more than that.

They dont show them proper food, they dont try to get them to exercise, the only thing that they do is think its baby fat.

At that age parents run the kids life, so if that kids fat at 8 its 100% the parents fault.

And the kids take 50% of the blame for being hungry ass food munching motherfuckers, and don't give me that bullshit "well they don't know better, their just kids"

Are you saying when you were eight you fully understood the concepts of what you did and what the reprucussion were?

And if you say yes then your bullshitting me.

At 6/28/07 01:54 PM, fahrenheit wrote:

At 6/27/07 10:29 PM, TheBasics wrote:

Are you saying when you were eight you fully understood the concepts of what you did and what the reprucussion were?

And if you say yes then your bullshitting me.

No, thats not what I am saying. Most kids start getting Obese during puberty so like11-13 years old. And I think a 13 year old realizes that eating 20 bags of chips a day and a gallon of Coke is going to make him/her fat. And Anyways I wasn't one of those people who had to worry about my diet when I was 8, I have a fast metabolism. I can eat 2 pizzas a day and not get fat, but thats in part because I work out. :)

In part but not necessarily. Personally I blame the overall mentally of the culture/society. Ridiculous really. One sign says 'Childhood obesity is not to be taken lightly.' And the sign right below it says 'McDonald's! My kind of shopping spree!'

At 6/28/07 08:20 PM, TheBasics wrote: Most kids start getting Obese during puberty so like11-13 years old.

Because those are their eating habits when their metabolism slows down. As a younger kid they ate whatever they want, but now they cant because of their body, but they dont realize that until its to late.

And I think a 13 year old realizes that eating 20 bags of chips a day and a gallon of Coke is going to make him/her fat.

Not if they dont think they will get fat.

If a 10 year old can eat whatever they want without getting fat (which many can), why would they think they cant do it in four years? Its up to the parents to take responsibilty in forcing their kids to change their eating habits and exercise habits.

Because thats another contributor, when your in elementary school you have recess and your idea of fun is playing kick ball or something. But when you get older you do more sedentary activities, so unless your being active as a consiouce desicion by working out or doing sports your going to gain weight.

Every person has a genetic "set point" their weight is supposed to be at. Some times this is higher than average. However, this is not a constant, and can be modified by poor dieting, lack or excess of exercise, medical procedures, or any number of other things. It may be the fault n of the parents, but the numbers say that 15% of the youth population is overweight, and not by how much. I think it's just become a popular issue.

At 6/28/07 08:31 PM, fahrenheit wrote: Stuff that makes sense

Yeah I see what your getting at, the reason I am saying its 50% the persons fault is when you realize that your fat, and food that your eating is making you fat. You have the power of choice, eat different food that may help you lose weight instead of gaining it, and excercise to keep the weight off. You see its because most people are too lazy and don't have the will power to do those things, so you can't entirely blame it all on the parents because parents can't control if their son/daughter is a fat food addict that buys 10 honeybuns before school everyday, its partailly up to the person himself to realize they are fat and unhealthy and make a change.

At 6/28/07 08:52 PM, TheBasics wrote: and food that your eating is making you fat. You have the power of choice,

Not entirely, being fat is like an addiction. The reason its an addiction is because its easy to keep eating that way. You have a choice of easy to get, cheap, tasy food. Over hard to make/somewhat expensive (if your talking about a real meal) food. Then the exercise is difiicult because their already overweight.

I'm not saying its impossible, far from it, but anyone would have a hard time changing their entire lifestyle like that. Even harder for a young teenager.

so you can't entirely blame it all on the parents because parents can't control if their son/daughter is a fat food addict that buys 10 honeybuns before school everyday,

Yes, they can. They can restrict money, they can put their kids in a sports or exercise group. They could feed them healthy food, they can anything besides force feeding the food down their throat.

You blame an adult for being fat, you blame the parents of a fat teenager. Because at that age its their job to dictate what their child does, at that age the child learns habits on how to live and if the parents dont intervene the child grows up with really bad habits.

At 3/6/07 03:59 AM, Imperator wrote: Get your ASSES in gear, and you'll find you don't have the time to be gourging yourselves with crap food like Wackronalds (gotta love poor college student "diets").

that is very true, i only starting snacking when im really bored, if ive got something to do i can go through most of the day without realising i havnt ate anything until i actually am physically hungry and then think ... hmm, im really hungry, i should eat something.

as opposed to, hmm, god im fucking bored, *wander round house for half an hour doing nothing*, meh, mayaswell get a snack while im at it.

I blame bad weather

I blame it on lack of self control

At 6/29/07 02:44 PM, TurtleJuice wrote: I blame it on lack of self control

Careful now.

You can use that for obese people, but don't you dare use that against sex addicts. You might just have a brick thrown at you on this forum.

In the case that the original poster mentioned, no the parents aren't to blame. You can't be blamed for your genes.

OY VEEEEEEEY!
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