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At 2/15/07 05:16 PM, reality-check7 wrote: The terrorists aren't in Iraq.

You're there because the U.S. is.

Ignore that.

The point I was trying to make is that England had no reason to go into Iraq before the U.S. asked (told) them to.

At 2/15/07 04:32 PM, AlphaCentauri wrote:

About England being weak, I really don't know, they have never seemed very sstrong to me,considering the only history I know about them is since America was created, and they were losses. Well, the ones fighting America at least. American Revolution and The War of 1812.

Your a bit ignorant then.

In the American revelution Britain faced pratically all of the colonists as well as France, Spain and the netherlands.

The war of 1812 was a stalemate. America invaded Canada but were repeled. Canada Invaded America but couldn't hold on to the cities.

The other major war in North america which you should know about is the French and Indian Wars which Britain won.

Allthough all three wars are hardly known of In britain. As during all of them Britain was also fighting wars in Europe and other parts of the world.

Britains been Crucial in the Napolionic wars and the two World wars.

Some of the most famous battles in the world are British Battles.

Agincourt, Trafalgar, Waterloo, Battle of Britain, Normandy.

At 2/15/07 04:06 PM, mishypie wrote:

At 2/15/07 04:03 PM, Lost-Chances wrote:

We've fucking gone wrong somewhere. We've gone seriously wrong.

Uh yeah, sure "we" have, sure. Like we write 1000 word essays on the BBS on British history, or whatever it was. I'm British, and Im fine. So poo you.

ha...he said "poo you"

At 2/15/07 04:05 PM, Diamonddog wrote: the only good thing that came outta England was russell Brand

and ozzy..

At 2/15/07 04:28 PM, Legfucker wrote: Lost-Chances.

Bbs respect point drop +555 pts

FIXED IT (its true)

At 2/15/07 05:21 PM, zzzzd wrote:

At 2/15/07 04:32 PM, AlphaCentauri wrote:

In the American revelution Britain faced pratically all of the colonists as well as France, Spain and the netherlands.

Lets rephrase that.

You fought about 1/3 of the country at the beginning and about 1/2 at the end(remember, America had loyalists and pacifists too), you fought the Spanish in some south west fuck holes, and traded a few bombardments with the Dutch.

The French yes, but America took the brunt for a while.

The war of 1812 was a stalemate. America invaded Canada but were repeled. Canada Invaded America but couldn't hold on to the cities.

Or the country.

The other major war in North america which you should know about is the French and Indian Wars which Britain won.

Considering that they were having thier asses kicked untill they adopted American tactics.

Allthough all three wars are hardly known of In britain. As during all of them Britain was also fighting wars in Europe and other parts of the world.

Britains been Crucial in the Napolionic wars and the two World wars.

Some of the most famous battles in the world are British Battles.

Agincourt, Trafalgar, Waterloo, Battle of Britain, Normandy.

Normandy was largely an American battle with British backup.

At 2/15/07 05:20 PM, PinkBeer wrote: Yeah, to HELP America. They'd be royally fucked if we weren't there, heck, they're even struggling now.

I didn't mean to give the impression that the U.S. was winning in Iraq, so sorry if I did. Believe me when I say that most of this country isn't too enthusiastic about the war.

Were doing it as a favour. You make it sound like America gave the order that England should invade Iraq.

We didn't order you, but we didn't exactly ask politely. There was definately some pressure, and it was more than "I'll help because you're my friend."

At 2/15/07 05:28 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 2/15/07 05:21 PM, zzzzd wrote:

At 2/15/07 04:32 PM, AlphaCentauri wrote:

In the American revelution Britain faced pratically all of the colonists as well as France, Spain and the netherlands.

Lets rephrase that.

You fought about 1/3 of the country at the beginning and about 1/2 at the end(remember, America had loyalists and pacifists too), you fought the Spanish in some south west fuck holes, and traded a few bombardments with the Dutch.

Loyalists made a very small percentage.

The French yes, but America took the brunt for a while.

The french fuck of alot.

The war of 1812 was a stalemate. America invaded Canada but were repeled. Canada Invaded America but couldn't hold on to the cities.

Or the country.

Britain never took America in 1812 just some of the northen Cities but couldn't hold on to them for long enough.

Considering that they were having thier asses kicked untill they adopted American tactics.

American tactics. There was no american tactics then you prick. Americans were British.

No Normandy was a grand Allied invasion Split half an half with Britain(and Canada) and america.

your grammar is weak

I > j00

At 2/15/07 05:36 PM, zzzzd wrote:

At 2/15/07 05:28 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 2/15/07 05:21 PM, zzzzd wrote:

At 2/15/07 04:32 PM, AlphaCentauri wrote:

Loyalists made a very small percentage.

Does Wikipedia work
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_%28Amer ican_Revolution%29#Loyalists_in_the_Thirteen_
States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolut ion#Factions:_Patriots.2C_Loyalists_and_Neutr als

15-20% roughtly 500,000 is the estimate. Throw in another good percentage for neutrals and your running about 70% patriot.

The french fuck of alot.

?

Britain never took America in 1812 just some of the northen Cities but couldn't hold on to them for long enough.

You mean Southern Cities. The British didn't touch any northern cities. The only fighting in the North was in the Great Lakes and Canada.

American tactics. There was no american tactics then you prick. Americans were British.

No, American was composed of a mixture of German, Irish, Scotch, Anglo-Saxon, Dutch and French while adopting and using different styles of warfare that reflected Indian tactics.

They were British in name.

Why do you think the Americans didn't tramp around in nice red suits that were easy targets and go announcing thier movement with drum and flute.

Or how they ambushed and fought from the trees and the enviroment.

No Normandy was a grand Allied invasion Split half an half with Britain(and Canada) and america.

The Canadians were under the British crown.

Does wikipedia work again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Norman dy#The_Allied_invasion_plan

As you can see, the majority of the British Invasion consisted of Commando and Paratrooper units that helped to fight the interior.

If you actually count up the troops, the Americans were largely outnumbering the British.

not really considering that england is a major ally of englad and needs thier help in iraq

When did England grow weaker?

I say it was the World Wars. Germany kicked the shit out of the European Allies in both. France and England were the badass people back then, but then Germany kicked the shit out of Europe, and Europe kicked the shit out of Germany. I'd go as far to say the entirety of Europe is weak because of WW I and II.

At 2/15/07 05:48 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

American tactics. There was no american tactics then you prick. Americans were British.

No, American was composed of a mixture of German, Irish, Scotch, Anglo-Saxon, Dutch and French while adopting and using different styles of warfare that reflected Indian tactics.

Anglo-saxon?? English not anglo-saxon lol

They were British in name.

Yes they were British. regardless of what was in there blood.

Why do you think the Americans didn't tramp around in nice red suits that were easy targets and go announcing thier movement with drum and flute.

You don't have a clue about Warfare in that era. It's a common mistake ignorant americunts like yourself make that how the British wore red and stood in line was completely stupid.
In battles of the Era thats the best tactic As Battlefields were drowned in smoke and it was all about keeping disciplin. Gurrelia tactics were of course extremely effective but only the people who knew the land could use them.

Look at Vietnam, only the vietcong could do use the tactics like they did.

America used formations in many battles in the american war of independence and more so in the war of 1812.

I thought in america all you learnt was the american war of independence and you don't even understand that. Just 'We Defeated the British'

The Canadians were under the British crown.

Yes I know tis why i put canada in brackets.

Does wikipedia work again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Norman dy#The_Allied_invasion_plan

As you can see, the majority of the British Invasion consisted of Commando and Paratrooper units that helped to fight the interior.

If you actually count up the troops, the Americans were largely outnumbering the British.

No the allied Forces were Evenly matched between British/canadians and americans
If you actually count up the troops.

As for the actuall operation Britain had the majority of naval power.
The Beach landings were evenly matched. Britain/canada took 3 America took 2 maybe 3 can't remember.

Then Britain faced the bulk of the germans in the east allowing for the americans to break out.

Battle of Normandy succesfull.

ShadowXII, I couldn't agree more.

At 2/15/07 06:22 PM, zzzzd wrote:
Anglo-saxon?? English not anglo-saxon lol

Dumbass.

You're right. England was much cooler back several hundred years ago.

Freakin' knights, man!

At 2/15/07 06:35 PM, Bigfoot3290 wrote: You're right. England was much cooler back several hundred years ago.

Freakin' knights, man!

Knights? KNIGHTS!? GTFO

How does repaying America for all their people who died helping save England in WW2 make you America's bitch you ungrateful little twat? Just because you don't like the Americans is no reason to flop down and sulk like a bitch because your country is helping them.

At 2/15/07 05:28 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: Normandy was largely an American battle with British backup.

...the fuck?

It's American pricks like you that make good British soldiers dying in Iraq not worth it.

First off, the majority of the invasion was staged from Britain, using British beaches to train and prepare.

Second, there were 5 beaches at the Normandy Invasions. Two were American, three were joint Canadian and British.

Third, I'm sure you enjoyed stuff like Saving Private Ryan and Medal of Honour, but the only reason Omaha has been portrayed largely by the media is because you met heavier resistance and more people died there then on the other beaches. There were still 4 other beaches.

I don't mind Americans but some have got to pull their heads out their arses and realise they don't shit gold. You are not the saviour of the world.

Arsewipe

At 2/15/07 06:32 PM, Kurofelis wrote:

At 2/15/07 06:22 PM, zzzzd wrote:
Anglo-saxon?? English not anglo-saxon lol

Dumbass.

why the fuck am I a dumbass.

He wrote Germany, Irish, Anglo-saxon.

Either your write Germany, Irish, anglo saxon

It doesnt make sense. you might as well say

Germanic, Celtic....

I'd just like to make a couple of points here:

1: It was the British Royal Engineers who dragged the Normandy base over from the British Isles to the French coast.

2: The Soviets technically won the war as they reached Berlin first.

3: It was Britain that was fighting the war from its beginning in 1939, the Americans only got involved in 1941 (i think) after Pearl Harbour.

4. Most of wikipedia cannot be guaranteed as fact, remember that.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not anti-American, its just that some of the brits posting here are making alot more sense than the Americans.

Two world wars, one world cup and all that shite

PATRIOTIC TO THE END

wow we have chinese and indian food we claim as our own food what a country

At 2/15/07 06:43 PM, ScreamiNSemeN wrote: How does repaying America for all their people who died helping save England in WW2 make you America's bitch you ungrateful little twat? Just because you don't like the Americans is no reason to flop down and sulk like a bitch because your country is helping them.

What about the English people who fucking died? Are they just dirt to you? So, even though our people died as well saving others, you think we have to repay a debt to America? How stupid can you get? Honestly.

At 2/15/07 06:57 PM, zzzzd wrote:

At 2/15/07 06:32 PM, Kurofelis wrote:

At 2/15/07 06:22 PM, zzzzd wrote:
Anglo-saxon?? English not anglo-saxon lol

Dumbass.

why the fuck am I a dumbass.

Anglo-Saxon is English. Or, at least their earlier name.

"Anglo" transformed into "England". I'm not sure what happened to the Saxon part.

At 2/15/07 07:04 PM, fire-exit-man wrote:
3: It was Britain that was fighting the war from its beginning in 1939,

Even though they got the fucking shit kicked out of them.

England would have been pulverized if not for America and Russia. If Hitler wasn't a traitor dumbass, and did not attack his Soviet allies, all of you English people would be speaking perfect German.

America was our baby, it grew up and threw its mother into a home.

I agree with you, england has become a pittiful country and has no chance of rising back to power. Yet, we own all the worlds asses!!

Once upon a time, we have politicains that would try to do what is best for the country. That knew what pride was. Who would say "fuck America, we're the fucking English!". Now we have Tony Blair, who gives weekly blow jobs to George Bush

Now that, that is true. And fucking funny! Weekly blow jobs, monthly hand jobs.

England is the smartest country in the world if you ask me, Hill Billys vs Safisticated englishmen, and chavs.

So yeah, I don't like the country america, they don't like us. Who gives a shit

At 2/15/07 07:24 PM, Kurofelis wrote: Even though they got the fucking shit kicked out of them.

Yeah, after losing the Battle of Britain we were on the brink of defeat.

...Oh wait...

England would have been pulverized if not for America and Russia. If Hitler wasn't a traitor dumbass, and did not attack his Soviet allies, all of you English people would be speaking perfect German.

...and America would have been pulverised if not for Britain and Russia. And Russia would have been pulverised if not for America and Britain.

There's a reason we were working together against the Axis.

At 2/15/07 07:24 PM, Kurofelis wrote:

Anglo-Saxon is English. Or, at least their earlier name.

"Anglo" transformed into "England". I'm not sure what happened to the Saxon part.

Angles and saxons are two germanic peoples who invaded and settled in what is now England.
If your going to call English anglo-saxons then why not call Irish the picts and the french the franks or the dutch vikings. It's just a strange thing to say. The only use of anglo-saxons is by other countrys like france who call America, Britain, Australia .ect Le anglo-saxons.

Even though they got the fucking shit kicked out of them.

England would have been pulverized if not for America and Russia. If Hitler wasn't a traitor dumbass, and did not attack his Soviet allies, all of you English people would be speaking perfect German.

You don't know shit. Firstly for Hitler to invade he would of had to gain air superiority, which he failed in the Battle of Britain. And anyway Hitler wouldn't of been able to get past the Royal Navy. So theres no way we would be speaking German.

Hitlers Invasion of russia was usefull but It didn't paticulaly save Britain. And America didn't save Britain at all. America joined Britain to save europe. By the time America joined the war The Blitz was over and Britain was launching devastating air raids on Germany.

Part of the problem is there's no morale among the English any more. It's more or less illegal for an English person to have a sense of national pride about them. People have been arrested and/or fined for waving the union flag outside their house thanks to New Labour and their Marxist agendas. Criminals have more rights than the victims of their crimes and because of this, what's the point of obeying the law? I'd never steal anything, but it doesn't surprise me that nobody wants to work and pay tax when they can steal what they need and have the authorities automatically jump to their defence.

At 2/16/07 04:06 PM, MickTheChampion wrote:

Because the picts were Scottish?

Ok then it's like calling the scottish picts.

At 2/16/07 04:10 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

Thats true, Both the Union Jack and St georges cross are seen by some as racist symbols