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Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 14:30:23 Reply

I think they've found it but haven't told us.
Why?
BECAUSE THERE'S NO PROFIT FROM IT!....what do you guys think?

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 14:33:49 Reply

At 2/10/07 02:30 PM, FenixFire2990 wrote: I think they've found it but haven't told us.
Why?
BECAUSE THERE'S NO PROFIT FROM IT!....what do you guys think?

No Profit? how? give more details?

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 15:01:50 Reply

Cancer was never meant to be cured.


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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 15:06:48 Reply

Good point. If there was a cure for cancer, it would be much less expensive then chemo.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 15:25:08 Reply

That would only apply if the government created the cure, if a privately funded scientist (or maybe even one supported by a company) was able to cure AIDS or cancer they would publish their findings in a second.

They would be declared man of the century and instantly win a Nobel prize, there would be no way a scientist would pass up immortal fame.


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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 15:43:06 Reply

Chris Rock said something like this once. "You think they're ever gonna cure AIDS? NO! Because the money's not in the Cure, it's in the COME BACK. One day it'll just be, 'Hey, man, you weren't at work on Monday, what happened?' "Oh, my AIDS was acting up again . . ."

lol

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 15:43:50 Reply

I think people are looking at cancer the wrong way.
They get told its a disease you randomly get, but it actually seems to be more related to the way you live.

It's like the disease for obesity. There is no "cure" for obesity, but there are ways to avoid it, and even get better from it, without a magic pill.


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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 15:44:44 Reply

Oh, and the common cold will probably never be cured because there are so many viruses that cause it.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 15:45:45 Reply

That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. And I've listened to a guy telling me about the time he thought there was a hamster in the lamp shade.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 16:30:42 Reply

At 2/10/07 03:45 PM, Jesus-made-me-do-it wrote: That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. And I've listened to a guy telling me about the time he thought there was a hamster in the lamp shade.

Methinks he was on some sort of substance induced trip.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 17:32:00 Reply

Wow! Thank you for your input guys.
For the confused: What i mean is, the cure for cancer and the common cold might already
be discovered. The reason they haven't told us is because it would run companies such as
Advil and others off the market. And it would also make cancer treatments and testing
pointless as well. Mainly it's all about the money.

Hope that made things clearer

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 17:33:22 Reply

At 2/10/07 04:30 PM, reviewer-general wrote:
At 2/10/07 03:45 PM, Jesus-made-me-do-it wrote: That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. And I've listened to a guy telling me about the time he thought there was a hamster in the lamp shade.
Methinks he was on some sort of substance induced trip.

Dont think so. He's mental.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 17:36:44 Reply

lol

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 17:42:33 Reply

Don't be so quick to dis-credit this guy here. Drug companies adverstise their drugs to people because they make their money that way. They fool alot of people, I know people who take perscription pills for things they don't have. If drug companies turn the youth into advil addicts, they won't care. They have their brand new Rollex to keep em happy. As for actully curing the common cold/cancer, i don't think it's doable this day and age. The common cold has thousands of germs that cause it, each just different enough from the others to fool the immune system. That means a cure would have to get ALL of those germs, and thats alot. As for cancer, it would take an extremely immoral person to watch people die just so he can make money that he won't probably use. Then again, there are people like that...

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 18:02:18 Reply

You have a great point. So do I, here it is.

Let's (innaccurately) say that 400,000 people a year buy a $20 dollar drug to releave them of cold symptoms like runny nose, scratchy throat, nausea, ect. If the company that makes these finds a cure for the common cold, then those 400,000 people only use the cure once, and that means the company is out 8 Million dollars. Buissnesses understand things in two terms, money and customers. The cure would cause both to drop. So if it was possible, releasing it would cause quite a large drop in sales, thus the company losses money.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 18:17:45 Reply

Cancer: dichloroacetate, capsaicin

As for the common cold, there are a number of hypotheses as well as treatments that work only in some cases, including interferons, antivirals and good old vitamin C.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 19:17:01 Reply

Good points guys.
Thanks for your Input ^^

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 22:26:47 Reply

At 2/10/07 06:02 PM, DAKanator wrote: Let's (innaccurately) say that 400,000 people a year buy a $20 dollar drug to releave them of cold symptoms like runny nose, scratchy throat, nausea, ect. If the company that makes these finds a cure for the common cold, then those 400,000 people only use the cure once, and that means the company is out 8 Million dollars. Buissnesses understand things in two terms, money and customers. The cure would cause both to drop. So if it was possible, releasing it would cause quite a large drop in sales, thus the company losses money.

No, see, that's not how companies operate because of a free market competition. The point of releasing a cure is to charge $100 for it and screw your competition out of the market. Sure, you lose a little bit of yearly profit, but you get a massive immediate boost, a major market gian that benefits you everywhere, and a monopoly on something that will be bought endlessly.

Put simpl,y companies think in the short term and with the goal of destroying their opponents. Releasing a cure wins in both categories.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-10 23:09:40 Reply

It's true. But ill tell you this much, if i get sick ill keep my money and just wait to get better. I got the best common cold killer, it's called the immune system.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-11 05:49:17 Reply

Common Cold is always mutating.
People always catch it because it's always going to be new.

And cancer is a mutation of cells... it's not like you could take a pill for it and that's it.

Although, I believe that AIDS will one day have a cure. At the same time, I believe there will be untreatedable forms of AIDS because it's so successful at mutating quickly and thus adapting.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-11 07:07:18 Reply

At 2/10/07 02:30 PM, FenixFire2990 wrote: BECAUSE THERE'S NO PROFIT FROM IT!....what do you guys think?

NO PROFITZ?
Hehe, many people would be willing to pay ALL their money for a cure to their cancer. As far as I'm concerned there is not a more profitable cause! The person who invents a 100% successful cancer treatment will become richer than Bill gates in a matter of weeks!

... Right now they have slightly over 50% success with chemotherapy.


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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-11 07:08:18 Reply

At 2/11/07 07:07 AM, LolOutLoud wrote: ... Right now they have slightly over 50% success with chemotherapy.

... But they need to remove the cancerous cells first... Which can prove tricky.


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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-11 17:02:13 Reply

At 2/11/07 05:49 AM, fli wrote: Common Cold is always mutating.
People always catch it because it's always going to be new.

Whoa the CC (Common cold) is always mutating!?! wow i dint know that!!

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-11 17:16:21 Reply

At 2/11/07 07:07 AM, LolOutLoud wrote:
Hehe, many people would be willing to pay ALL their money for a cure to their cancer. As far as I'm concerned there is not a more profitable cause! The person who invents a 100% successful cancer treatment will become richer than Bill gates in a matter of weeks!

Lol...ture enough.

They're actually getting into research of a pill that prevents new blood vessels from forming within tumors. You cut off the supply of blood and oxygen to the mutating cells and they die just like any regular one. I'm not sure of the finer details of the drug but that's the main gist of it.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-11 17:56:40 Reply

At 2/10/07 03:43 PM, poxpower wrote: I think people are looking at cancer the wrong way.
They get told its a disease you randomly get, but it actually seems to be more related to the way you live.

It's like the disease for obesity. There is no "cure" for obesity, but there are ways to avoid it, and even get better from it, without a magic pill.

On the other hand, if you get hit by a high-energy cosmic ray the wrong way, you're still fucked.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-12 04:56:38 Reply

At 2/10/07 02:30 PM, FenixFire2990 wrote: I think they've found it but haven't told us.
Why?
BECAUSE THERE'S NO PROFIT FROM IT!....what do you guys think?

You watch too many movies and but into too many government conspiracy theories. This is the REAL world. If they had it, we would know.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-12 05:03:11 Reply

The company that comes out with the cure will make money hand over fist, just about leveling every other pharmaceutical company out there. Capitalism works both ways, you know. Even in the strictest amoral terms, companies are just as willing to make a buck off each other as they are the consumer. If there was a cure, sooner or later, one company would come out with it and absolutely annihilate the competition. And that's if ethics aren't involved. You can't really believe that every single board member of every pharmaceutical company working ona cure for these diseases is either too evil or is being reigned in by the others.


Think you're pretty clever...

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-12 08:49:35 Reply

At 2/10/07 03:01 PM, JakeHero wrote: Cancer was never meant to be cured.

And? If you are proposing that we stand in the way of saving millions of lives due to some superstitious belief that cancer is not meant to be cured, then you really need to reexamine the position from which you look at life.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-12 09:09:45 Reply

There was a chemical that seemed to kill most cancerous cells, but it was discovered long ago so no-one would be able to patent it, so no research was done.

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Response to Cure for Cancer/Comon Cold 2007-02-12 09:27:43 Reply

For those of you who think a cure for cancer, HIV, or the common cold would be unprofitable, you're not thinking of the chance of reinfection. A person is going to pay considerably more for the medicine that cures them than one that just alleviates the symptoms, and if they get infected once again they're going to pay once again. Not to mention the fact that any cure is going to be, for a long time, a prescription only medicine. Since a person is going to have to wait a while before they can visit their physician, they may still seek over the counter relief for their symptoms. There's even money to be made in vaccines if they're made mandatory in some areas. We may even have people coming in for their yearly HIV booster shots some time in the future.