American Draft

[Sugary-Cupcakes]

Now I'm not going to lie and say I've been watching the news and following our countries under judgement bills.
The truth is I was going to lunch ran in to some friends and they told me about how Bush had submitted this bill for the drafting age to lower or something or other. They basically told me he was making move for a draft to occur and then they preceded to agrue about policy

Is this true, and what do you think about it?

[Memorize]

NO! It's not true.

draft - proposed by just 2 dems. Bush (as well as EVERYONE else) has already made it known that they will NOT do it.

You're friends are morons.

[plagueofthings]

I haven't heard anything about that. Sounds like a heaping load of BS. I predict that they'll be talking about a full troop withdrawl before they even think about a draft. I hope so, anyway.

[phantom-drummer]

For the sake of me not getting shot in my face, I don't want a draft to start and it was already made clear that a draft WILL NOT happen. I don't think the people of the united states would go for that anyway, given all the crap Bush has f*cked up in the last 7 years.

[jeremiah-bullfrog]

Two options

A. Draft

B. Troop withdrawl

which one will the fatcats choose? I dont know its not up to you!

[JakeHero]

This is why you don't vote liberal democrat: they'll take your money and gun awaya and force you to fight in a war. Everytime the draft has been reinstated it was by democrat leadership.

[MortifiedPenguins]

At 2/10/07 01:51 PM, JakeHero wrote: This is why you don't vote liberal democrat: they'll take your money and gun awaya and force you to fight in a war. Everytime the draft has been reinstated it was by democrat leadership.

Lincoln set up a draft.

[JakeHero]

At 2/10/07 01:52 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: Lincoln set up a draft.

Was it put into effect?

[Sugary-Cupcakes]

Those dumbasses...
thanks guys

[plagueofthings]

At 2/10/07 01:55 PM, JakeHero wrote:

At 2/10/07 01:52 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: Lincoln set up a draft.

Was it put into effect?

Yes, after the riots were under control. About 45,000 men ended up going into service as a result, which isn't very many, but it did go into effect.

[Memorize]

At 2/10/07 02:39 PM, plagueofthings wrote:

Yes, after the riots were under control. About 45,000 men ended up going into service as a result, which isn't very many, but it did go into effect.

Woodrow Wilson
FDR
Lyndon Johnson

[plagueofthings]

At 2/10/07 02:45 PM, Memorize wrote:
Woodrow Wilson
FDR
Lyndon Johnson

Still doesn't nullify the point that Lincoln started it.

[Memorize]

At 2/10/07 02:49 PM, plagueofthings wrote:

At 2/10/07 02:45 PM, Memorize wrote:
Woodrow Wilson
FDR
Lyndon Johnson

Still doesn't nullify the point that Lincoln started it.

Still doesn't nullify the point that every democrat president who was residing in war time used it.

[reviewer-general]

At 2/10/07 02:50 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 2/10/07 02:49 PM, plagueofthings wrote:

At 2/10/07 02:45 PM, Memorize wrote:
Woodrow Wilson
FDR
Lyndon Johnson

Still doesn't nullify the point that Lincoln started it.

Still doesn't nullify the point that every democrat president who was residing in war time used it.

yes, but those are wars with technologies that required massive amounts of manpower to fight in them. Such numbers are no longer required. Well, unless another World War starts, but those are extebuating circumstances, wouldn't you say?

[reviewer-general]

That was supposed to be "extenuating" by the way.

Sorry.

[ViolentAJ]

If the war goes into Iran, I would suspect a draft. I'd pay attention to those details. All I can say is keep your eyes open, and try to think things out. A bit of thinking can open new horizons.

[Memorize]

At 2/10/07 04:23 PM, reviewer-general wrote:

yes, but those are wars with technologies that required massive amounts of manpower to fight in them. Such numbers are no longer required. Well, unless another World War starts, but those are extebuating circumstances, wouldn't you say?

Vietnam wasn't a world war, nor anywhere close.

Republicans have only used it once, and it was to keep the nation from splitting itself in 2. But it wasn't necessarily the "draft" until Woodrow Wilson came into the presidency.

[reviewer-general]

At 2/10/07 05:46 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 2/10/07 04:23 PM, reviewer-general wrote:

yes, but those are wars with technologies that required massive amounts of manpower to fight in them. Such numbers are no longer required. Well, unless another World War starts, but those are extebuating circumstances, wouldn't you say?

Vietnam wasn't a world war, nor anywhere close.

I wasn't implying that, I simply meant that nowadays only a war on a global scale would require the reinstatement of the draft.

[Gunter45]

Actually, the Republicans around the time of Lincoln were more like the Democrats of today anyway. Political parties don't keep the same platform for that long. There was a switch along the line where the Republican and Democrat parties basically swapped platforms.

[MortifiedPenguins]

At 2/10/07 02:45 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 2/10/07 02:39 PM, plagueofthings wrote:

Yes, after the riots were under control. About 45,000 men ended up going into service as a result, which isn't very many, but it did go into effect.

Woodrow Wilson
FDR
Lyndon Johnson

You forgot Truman.

[Memorize]

At 2/10/07 07:21 PM, Gunter45 wrote: Actually, the Republicans around the time of Lincoln were more like the Democrats of today anyway. Political parties don't keep the same platform for that long. There was a switch along the line where the Republican and Democrat parties basically swapped platforms.

True. Such as tariffs, that got swapped with the platforms. I'm just speaking party wise.

[TheThing]

No, it can't be true. You can't even drink, and you can barely vote at 18. If he lowers the draft age, he would have to lower the voting age also, just like in the 1960's. But he did raise the age that you can be recruited from 34 to 42 or something like that

[Draconias]

At 2/10/07 07:21 PM, Gunter45 wrote: Actually, the Republicans around the time of Lincoln were more like the Democrats of today anyway. Political parties don't keep the same platform for that long. There was a switch along the line where the Republican and Democrat parties basically swapped platforms.

Isn't that funny, though? It was the Democrats who owned all the slaves and suppressed them, then they waffled and managed to sucker in 98% of blacks again. They sure haven't lost the touch.