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I hate people who blam things for no good reason. I meant I've noticed most members have more blams than saves. I'm like one of those rare members who have more saves than blams and I think people vote low purely because they think it's "cool". Here's a reality check, since when was showing off being nasty to someone on the net was considered cool? Last time I checked that was being a nerd trying to look cool. These people I see as people who'd go "OMG!!!! Look at me, I was mean to someone I don't even know, how cool is that!?!?!?!?". At least in most submissions people know how to use flash and it's not the most simple thing ever, and most blammers don't even know how to which is just sad.

Good to see Wade and Tom stepping in for the users, nice work guys!

At 4/24/03 07:06 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 4/24/03 06:52 PM, Kairaega wrote: It's a bit hard to imagine you are really from around here, since most of us philly people are very jaded and often times rude. (And quite proud of it) But hey...if you want me to hold back my method of voting, consider it done. I'll let the junk stay on the portal and everyone else can sort it out. Won't bother me a bit.

Sorry, I'm from the suburbs of Philly, we try not to be rude.

I lived in the suburbs of Philly (Ft. Washington, Ambler area) for 4 years, and... people in general are pretty rude in Montogomery County, PA.

But then, I was used to the politeness of Houston, TX, and Kobe, Japan, when I moved to Pennsylvania, and both of those places are well over the average politeness level, so my perceptions aren't exactly on the level. #;-}>

I have about 110 more saves than blams and I used to think that I'm probably on that list but now that I've seen how much more saves I've got I think I'm in the clear...

At 4/24/03 09:54 PM, gfoxcook wrote: I lived in the suburbs of Philly (Ft. Washington, Ambler area) for 4 years, and... people in general are pretty rude in Montogomery County, PA.

People from Montgomery County suck. Delaware county, much better.

At 4/24/03 10:08 PM, I_Got_Lost wrote: People from Montgomery County suck. Delaware county, much better.

Hello Captain Obvious! of course people from Montgomery County suck. Hell, no matter where you live, you have to have sucked sometime! Whether it be chocolate, your thumb when you were little, an ice cream or whatever, every single person has sucked at least once in their lifetime.

I was just like that up untill a minute ago.
But I will change my ways. *sob*

voting 5s and 0s is the only way to make ratings jump, if no one was voting in extremes every score would be about 2.5-3.0. That seems to the be that average of survivors now, so what's the problem? Over the last month or two i racked up about 300 saves when i used to blam 90% of stuff. But i don't think you guys would like it if we let everything in.

Wade I hope I'm not on that list man

ATTENTION ALL PORTAL USERS
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I joined Newgrounds originally in 2000 under the alias icetoniczero. I had found the portal to a great place where people judge on skill as artists.
Now however, it is almost three years later and I have found that people are judging too lighty. What happened to you Wade and Tom? You used to be all about blamming crap. Now you are telling us not to vote 0. And just now I head not to vote 1.
YOU ARE VOTING TOO LIGHTY. THERE IS CRAP ALL OVER THE PORTAL BECAUSE YOU ARE THREATENING PEOPLE FOR BLAMMING!
You have to solve this problem. There are almost 200 entries per day, and more than half are kept. Half of those, are complete crap that does not deserve a score at all.
This new system of Under Judgement just prevents the portal from being run over with crap made by newbs.
Also, the top 50 has drastically changed. I remember the top score used to be 3.91
Now it is like 4.5
You people are judging too lightly. You new assholes and old assholes alike are saying that 5 means you like it. NO!
5 means it is perfect in every possible way! No flash movie can be perfect, for if there was, the portal would no longer exist.
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I was not, and still am not, actively involved in the Portal, but it is my belief that this site has gone the way of the spiny-turtle. You are being impressed by retarded little animals bouncing on some naked chick talking about shoving EGGPLANTS UP THEIR ASS! GET SOME SELF-RESPECT PEOPLE!
Flash was created to entertain, not to create children who think they are adults. You think this stupid ass A rating is going to stop a freaking 12-year old from watching!? It's just like the game industry. They RECCOMEND it just so legally they can't be sued, but they never enforce it.
If it's rated A, it should be only watched by adults. Makes sense doesnt it?
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In conclusion:
What happened to you Newgrounds? You used to be cool...

Ok, I can kind of understand the voting 0 thing, but you have to be careful when voting 1? I think it's also a problem that everyone rates so high. It seems like every week there is a new movie listed # one on the "Top 50 of All Time" List. That means all the classics are getting knocked off because of all the 5's coming in.

Listen, Wade says that you have to vote 2 on a movie if it put effort into it but it wasn't your cup of tea. Don't like it?

How would you like it if you put tons and tons of effort in a movie, and it got blammed, because some of the people vote 0 because they didn't like the plot or something mild like that? On the other hand, if they voted 2 like they were supposed to, your good work with one little tiny bad part would stay on the portal. You should do the same to others.

I vote 0 on all da moviez cos i am d00d kewl

At 4/24/03 10:17 PM, aquabat wrote:

You just wrote the most retarded essay I have ever seen. If Wade Frump wanted people to vote at least 2 on everything, he would have gotten rid of the zero button alltogether, dipweed.

At 4/24/03 10:17 PM, aquabat wrote:

:stuff about retarded animal babies.

That movie isn't funny, and it's not the best animation I've seen, but unfortunately, that brings hits to the site.

At 4/24/03 05:45 PM, WadeFulp wrote: In other news our 2nd data pipeline should be installed either tonight or tomorrow! We hope! :)

omg omg omg! its almost HEEEEERE! i feel like its christmas wade. more bandwidth=happy poop=no more violent diahrea for all u people using up bandwidth

i hope this doesnt cause 1 million topics on "TEH BANDIWDHT R HERE WOOT WTF OMG LOL!"

At 4/24/03 10:17 PM, aquabat wrote:
Also, the top 50 has drastically changed. I remember the top score used to be 3.91
Now it is like 4.5

Yeah the Final Task, one of the best classics in NG history is now ranked 126. That can't be, and since it was not submitted in this new age of "constructive" voting it will never be in the top 50 again.

Here's what bugs me about this: 'crappy' is a very relative term. I voted 1 on a movie that looked great but was only about 5 seconds long. As far as I'm concerned, that's a movie that didn't take much effort. You could probably draw a crappy stick figure movie using images from Paint that lasted 2 minutes and put in more effort. And I'd blam that, too.
Either way, I'm just going to give Tom and Wade the benefit of the doubt and not complain unless my account actually gets banned.

Wade can you ever forgive me?
I'm sorry!
*sob*

It seems a little strange to me that such guidelines exist in regards to voting. If one person blams an animation, regardless of how good it is, wouldn't the honest votes prevent its deletion from the website? Isn't that the reason for having a voting system in the first place, so that a single person can't be responsible for deleting a quality animation?

I admit, I vote harshly on animations I don't like. I also vote very high on ones that I do. There is going to be a trend towards "dark" voting on entries under judgement simply because there is so much more poor work being submitted there. Unfortunately, a lot more crap gets submitted than gems, so I don't see why I, or anybody else for that matter, should be punished for trying to thin the herd.

Also, I agree with the other user who brought up the point about displaying someone's blam statistics. If its bad to participate in blamming, then why is it public knowledge? Why is it something that someone can flaunt?

Besides, this very website discusses negative voting on its description of auras: "Dark: A user with a dark aura has a tendency to vote low on movies. Keep in mind, they don't have a dark aura because they vote low on bad movies - they have a dark aura because they vote low on movies that most other people find good. Users like this are either very critical or just plain mean and bitter. There is a lot of crap in the Portal that gets high marks, so just because someone has a dark aura doesn't necessarily mean they are an asshole. Heck, they might be helping clean out the crap."

If I am one of these Naughty Voters, then there are probably quite a few others out there like me, and I think we deserve the benefit of the doubt rather than a deleted account. At the very least, we deserve a personal notification, (a warning, a reminder of the voting guidelines), in our email accounts before we kicked off the website.

a lot of you guys are over-reacting. what wade is doing is warning the people who do nothing but blam everything. he's not telling you to change the way you vote completely, just give the score you think it deserves. there are people bitchin and moanin about facism and crap, well if you dont like it dont come back to NG. those are my two cents.

wtf u gyz r gey lol

I'm alittle scared about this rule, wade. As you can see, my SAVES points are higher than my BLAMS points because of this rule. I want to balance out my SAVES and BLAMS but i'm too scared of getting my acount erased from blaming too much. OH WHAT SHOULD I DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn, people don't read anything! It's so funny and sad to look at! There are some of you who come here, with 3-4 posts, and you express a valuable point, but unfortunately, IT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED 100 TIMES already. Quit yer yappin!

WHAT WADE WANTS: People who vote 0 on all the entries.
That is all this is about, not portal quality or bandwith old crap takes.

Poor Wade.

At 4/24/03 11:39 PM, poxpower wrote:

Poor Wade.

I know...I really don't envy his job...having to deal with so much stupidity, and everybody misinterpreting his rules...we feel for ya Wade, we feel yo pain.

At 4/24/03 09:26 PM, BlackSabbath wrote: how do i make flash movies? this is my first time here

ITS SO EASY. You download this trial and it does all the work for you! You just draw some sticks and its does it all for you man... so easy!

Btw, no one answered my previous post.

At 4/24/03 05:48 PM, Lord_Miroku_Sama wrote: I agree Wade but you must agree that the more flash is submitted the more crap there is that comes with it.

I have to agree. I've only recently even been looking into the new entries section of the portal, and I've got to admit that much of the new entries are simply thoroughly un-enjoyable mess. Many show little to no effort or creativity and often the author will admit to that. If an entry is garbage, in my opinion, you're saying I must give it a two or greater until it has an average review score, then I am allowed to vote as I actually feel? This seems to go against my original understanding of the concept, but I'll play by the rules, no problem.

I usually vote fairly high anyway...

they could if they went through the efforts of making you vote at the end kinda like a replay button or the window closes when its done the you can vote

I'm curious about one thing though. Let's say that a lot of really crappy movies do make it into the Portal and someone blams them all. Who's the judge of whether or not something's totally crappy? Do you watch the submissions yourself and determine if the guy voted fairly or not? Or is there some other system you have for determining whether or not someone gets all their blam/protect points erased because they vote 0 too much?

ALERT

Commie Wade is back trying to make all the portal entries be 3.5. Why can't you people just listen and vote 3.5 on everything just like me. Its what wade wants, just flippin DO IT! We don't care if there is a golden aura emmitting from you screen when a movie plays, or your D-drive opens up to take a crap on your mouse hand as soon as you "click to play" It gets a 3.5 anywade.

LOL

I don't know what the deal is with Tom and Wade for they are being really pushy about this matter. Let the people vote the way they want to. If you guys don't like it then discontinue the voting system end of story. Well it ain't like you guys will listen anyway.