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Rap. 2003-04-23 20:37:53 Reply

Under Ted's suggestion. I invite everyone's views on the Rap genre to be heard. I'm going out to dinner, and will respawn the topic with my views later. Night.


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Response to Rap. 2003-04-23 21:28:45 Reply

rap sucks. the only people in the rap industry that deserve any respect whatsoever are individual rappers, and them only for talent. the rest is all looped-ass beats, and a repetitious gangsta (weed, hoes, guns, money) mentality. the shit is so repetitive you gotta poop it out twice. Rap is only good if youre stoned. Listen to the jazz song, "Mack the knife" the original writer was an ex german jew named Brecht. He wrote it for the "three penny opera" an opera for the common man. he invented "sprechstimme" or timed speech, now known as rap. Everything rap does now Bobby Darin did 50 years ago. The exectuion may have improved, but thats all thats changed. Reiterating my statement "the shit's so repetitive, you gotta poop it out twice."


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Response to Rap. 2003-04-23 21:29:54 Reply

Rap is a poor quality genre of culture, something I don't even personally consider to be music.
I think it to be partly responsible for the increase in homophobia, "wiggerism", and early pubescense.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-23 21:40:15 Reply

I dont much like rap, mostly because of the laq of instruments and singing. Despite my unfondness of rap I have heard some rappers that are able to carry a tune but eminem isnt one of them. So, in conclusion... COLDPLAY RULES!!!

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-23 21:54:19 Reply

any african americans in this forum?

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-23 22:49:15 Reply

You can't spell CRAP without RAP! End of discussion... no further comments needed... the end!

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-23 22:51:51 Reply

I hate rap.
Rappers need little to no talent to make their music.
They play no insturments, they don't even have to sing in key.
All they have to do is talk about "popping a cap in da whitey" and "smokin da J" or some other rubbish like that.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-23 22:58:45 Reply

Rap sucks ass. I mean, at least in rock people put their souls into writing music. Rap is just obsenities and garbage.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-23 23:26:40 Reply

I wonder where darkblueflame is...

Rap is like Country

The genre is completely dominated by one race, it takes no effort to make, and just like country, it's seeing a brief period of success before it sinks back into it's niche.


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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 07:02:18 Reply

Well, so far this is a one sided debate.
But, should any general idiots wander in, I can guarantee this will attract them like a moth to a porch light.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 11:46:22 Reply

While it's stupid for millionaires to talk about "the ghetto" and shooting police and whatnot, being able to rhyme coherently, and "freestyle," is more of a display of language mastery than any novel or poem ever written.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 12:03:47 Reply

While I personally don't appeciate the genre, I'm surrounded by people who do. -_- Rap has taken an entirely different turn. Now it's all about skanks, bitches, and money. Remember when they used to rap about stuff like a new pair of sneakers?

It's true the genre consists of mostly blacks. But where would Eminem fit into the equation?

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 12:06:58 Reply

I don’t want to say that all rap is bad but most of it is simply ignorant. I mean almost every rap song promotes a lavish gangster lifestyle that degrades women. It amazes me when a rap song’s chorus is “hoes, hoes, hoes” and there are like 500 girls dancing and smiling in the video. Music should in my opinion express emotion or reach out to the listener. The rap artists blow up the radio and collaborate with pop stars to drown out any good music that had a chance to get play. Dead Prez is a really great group that has unique talent in rhyming. I personally prefer rock music. When you have to play an instrument or change the range in your vocals to create music I think that shows lots more talent. Can’t you see the difference between a rock concert and a rap concert? If you going to be a rap artist I think you should be a lyrical genius that can blow the other sell outs away.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 12:41:03 Reply

At 4/23/03 08:37 PM, el_foka wrote: Under Ted's suggestion. I invite everyone's views on the Rap genre to be heard. I'm going out to dinner, and will respawn the topic with my views later. Night.

Rap is qhat God made to punish the sinners, but it caught on and infected people. I think to write a rap song, you just have to have a drum beat, a bassline (on 3 notes) and say niggga, bitch, hoe, fuck, ass or cunt every second word.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 15:21:04 Reply

Eminem fits into the rap category under "Wiggers".

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 15:44:28 Reply

At 4/23/03 09:54 PM, NJDeadzone wrote: any african americans in this forum?

i sense a lack of diversity in this forum

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 16:24:35 Reply

The commercial rap with all naked women and fake gangster negro's sucks indeed. The underground and oldschool rap can be pretty fun to listen to from time to time. I don't mind hearing run DMC for instance, and i never saw a half naked woman in any of their video clips.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 16:44:12 Reply

Eminem is good because he can rap quickly and clearly, it has nothing to do with being black or white.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 17:10:53 Reply

At 4/24/03 04:44 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Eminem is good because he can rap quickly and clearly, it has nothing to do with being black or white.

Eminem should be shot. Standing on stage swearing into a microphone is not 'good' at all.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 17:55:43 Reply

i strongly dislike rap. not to say people can't listen to it but i don't like it at all

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 22:43:04 Reply

At 4/24/03 05:10 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: Eminem should be shot. Standing on stage swearing into a microphone is not 'good' at all.

Name me one rapper that doesn't "swear into a microphone"...

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 23:25:33 Reply

At 4/24/03 04:44 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Eminem is good because he can rap quickly and clearly, it has nothing to do with being black or white.

I can also talk about killing my wife, and taking drugs.
I can also do it very quickly.
Does that make me "good"?

It dosen't matter how fast you talk. Shit is still shit.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 23:34:21 Reply

You're right, he sucks at rap, that's why he sells records.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 23:40:01 Reply

At 4/24/03 11:34 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: You're right, he sucks at rap, that's why he sells records.

No, he sells records because he creates controversy. He's a little bitch that insults his mom so he can appeal to the 12 year olds with angst.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 23:41:54 Reply

At 4/24/03 11:34 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: You're right, he sucks at rap, that's why he sells records.

He sells records because of the popularity of the "Wigger" and "Gangster" genre as of now.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-24 23:56:00 Reply

So I guess that makes him a pretty "good" rapper, exactly.

Did you have a point?

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-25 00:02:53 Reply

Eminem is a puppet of Dre to appeal to whitey, that's the only reason he's off the streets of Detroit.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-25 00:05:46 Reply

Is that why they're signed under different record labels, and Dre hasn't had a CD in nearly three years?

Seriously, it's okay to say you dislike a style of music, it's another thing to say the number one artist of that style sucks at it.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-25 00:08:16 Reply

At 4/25/03 12:05 AM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Is that why they're signed under different record labels, and Dre hasn't had a CD in nearly three years?

Seriously, it's okay to say you dislike a style of music, it's another thing to say the number one artist of that style sucks at it.

So the dixie chicks dont suck at country? And Britanny spears doesnt suck at hip hop? My point proven.

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Response to Rap. 2003-04-25 00:17:29 Reply

At 4/25/03 12:05 AM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Is that why they're signed under different record labels, and Dre hasn't had a CD in nearly three years?

The answer is in the music....

Listen to the song "What's the Difference" on
Dr. Dre's "2001": "I got something to say, Dre,"
Eminem begins his rap, explaining that he wants to
confess while he is intoxicated. He says to Dr. Dre,
"I love you, dog," before lavishing him with praise.

On the song, Dr. Dre responds, returning the
affection, "I don't know if you ever noticed it, but
I've had your back from Day 1."

Seriously, it's okay to say you dislike a style of music, it's another thing to say the number one artist of that style sucks at it.

who said i didn't like him?