At 2/10/07 01:59 PM, ZekeySpaceyLizard wrote:
At 2/10/07 01:54 PM, MindChamber wrote:
In the words of Wade Flomp himself, "OH SNAP!!1!"
At 2/10/07 10:53 AM, ShitOnAStick wrote:
^^ But I thought we werent allowed trace jobs? Im confused :(were not.
look, what we are discouraging is people just finding a picture of a popular tentacle rape scene and and resubmitting it as their own with little effort on their behalf, such as cumSum's submission that is simply a trace of that small figurine they are selling online.
When you trace (rotoscope) a few difficult sections of a drawing using vectors with incredible detail but have an overall extremely different composition and feel to your overall peice most people will not argue that it is still an artistic thing.
Here's a perfect example with a piece I made about a year ago. This was based on four separate images, one of a Car, one of a Bus, one of train from the front and one of a train from the side. In a tedious process I went over each image simplifying them with the pen tool.
Notice I didnt just hit a button and magically trace the image. It took a few hours to go over each picture. Then each vector was distorted or warped in space slightly, and the train's front was foreshortened and it's side was also rendered in three dimensional space. Then the background was designed out of simple geometric shapes to give the image a juxtaposing composition with an overall theme.
In this situation, would the fact that a few elements of the image were based on photographs change the way you view the picture?
Does it stop it from having artistic merit or make it unoriginal?
Certainly not, as there is nothing else wholly like it anywhere else.
This ends up not much different than a person who photochops fine art out of several merged photographs pushed to the limits, or a 3D artist who gets all their weight mapping off a Motion Cap. Device. That animator still had to place the Polygons onto the figure and render the little details and textures.
In the end you might ask yourselves, are these really shortcuts if they end up taking longer or just strategies for producing better work?
From my experiences in Art school, I do not think many artists draw without looking at photo's if its something they are having trouble remembering the dimensions of-- or can not produce a still life of their own.