"The Simpsons" is brainwashing

[Truth]

Note: (I posted something like this before in the far past)

Matt Groening (creator of "The Simpsons" and "Futurama") puts way too much agnostic views in his shows. His cartoons are not safe for young kids in particular to watch.

Examples:
In one simpsons episode Creationism vs Evolution
1. Lisa is arrested (after teaching the smart kids) for defying the new law in Springfield against teaching evolution after Reverend Lovejoy is appointed by Mayor Quimby to be the town's new "morality czar" in charge of promoting creationism.

2. Marge helps Lisa and Evolution win in court against Creationism.

3. Lisa(the smartest kid in school) is wrong when learning about Creationism
On the other hand, Ralph (the kid who is known to stuff objects up his nose) is right about Creationism.

4. when the flanders visit the Museum to see only one small display of Creationism, the song "A fool" is being played in the background.

these examples were all in the same episode.
Numerous other times, Matt groening will put many ideas in his cartoons disproving god (Mostly in Futurama). If you are old enough, you will also notice how he shows many times that "miracles" are nothing but coincidence (the episode when the Flanders create the christian park, everyone believed they were having miracles, when really it was only a gas leak).

I know the The Simpsons also shows alot of chrisitan beliefs as well, but overall, its shown as a joke. (how many times have you seen someone doing something really stupid in church)

"Futurama" now appears on Adult swim, however "The Simpsons" remains on FOX as a PG cartoon. Many young religious kids watch the show today, not realizing about the underlying messages. Most parents don't even know about these messages, and therefore considering it ok to watch this cartoon. when young kids don't know how to think for themselves, they will be influenced by these ideas, without even realizing it.

Matt Groening is a smart guy, but he doesn't need to put agonistic views into his show for it to be funny, yet he does it anyway.

[Durin413]

What are you smoking, and where can I get some.

Seriously, I think your going in a little deep here. Sometimes a cartoon is just a cartoon.

[qygibo]

Please. Matt Groening and co have been mocking Christianity for YEARS, going back to the first few seasons. Why the flying fuck is him mocking Christianity now such a huge surprise to you? Shut the hell up and stop watching The Simpsons if it's going to selectively harm your mind like that.

[White-hole]

It was a new episode so:
1. It sucks
2. It probaly wasnt even written by him

besides the simpsons have been making fun of shit like that for years, its nothing new, actually, in my opinion, its pretty supportive of christianity, have you noticed that(in the old episodes at least) Flanders is the happiest, most satisfied and luckiest character in the show. Maybe after all these years the writers have to reduce themselves to writing more like South Park to get ratings.

[Eoewe]

I doubt kids are going to understand what the hell you're talking about. Get a fucking life, loser. Next you'll tell us about how Animal Farm was promoting the Russian revolution.

[LazyDrunk]

Matt Groening may poke fun at religion, as he has with other things, but to say he's specifically targetting religion more so than say, homosexuality and vegetarianism, is a stretch.

I mean, God is always portrayed on the Simpson's (in the first-person, not counting secondhand remarks from Nelson or another troublemaker) as virtuous and jolly. Even in Futurama when Bender gets to play Creator to a tiny civilization living on his chest, Groening holds off on full-frontal attacks against God, unlike other popular adult cartoons. Ever watched South Park? Analyze their perspective on comparative religions and tell me what you've found.

[Truth]

At 1/31/07 01:23 PM, LazyDrunk wrote: Matt Groening may poke fun at religion, as he has with other things, but to say he's specifically targetting religion more so than say, homosexuality and vegetarianism, is a stretch.

this is true, but religion is always the most controversial by far.

I mean, God is always portrayed on the Simpson's (in the first-person, not counting secondhand remarks from Nelson or another troublemaker) as virtuous and jolly. Even in Futurama when Bender gets to play Creator to a tiny civilization living on his chest, Groening holds off on full-frontal attacks against God, unlike other popular adult cartoons. Ever watched South Park? Analyze their perspective on comparative religions and tell me what you've found.

The big difference between those two shows is that, "The Simpsons" is rated PG, South Park isnt.

[Brick-top]

Matt has made dozens of episodes about going to church and being a good Christian and one episode about evolution Vs. Creationism? Get a grip.

Now Flanders was pissed that schools don’t teach creationism in schools. They bicker for 20 minutes.

And in the end Lisa says
"I don’t like creationism in schools just as you don’t like science being taught church"

[Kenzu]

They mock everything, EVEN communism (which is a utopia, hence flawless).

Why are you surprised?

[Brick-top]

People who are offended by The Simpson’s are sad and take it too seriously.

[Karzand]

The show's also made fun of liberal athiest views. For example in one episode A women is furious over a religious performance at the superbowl. She complains that religion is harming her children. Her small son then asks "mommy why haven't I been baptized?" the boy's mother then yells "SEE", to exemplify how much religion has hurt her child.

[random8982]

At 1/31/07 12:28 PM, shohaib wrote:

Numerous other times, Matt groening will put many ideas in his cartoons disproving god (Mostly in Futurama). If you are old enough, you will also notice how he shows many times that "miracles" are nothing but coincidence (the episode when the Flanders create the christian park, everyone believed they were having miracles, when really it was only a gas leak).

That's because the Simpsons is a satire about current world events, beliefs, and modern society. I'm pretty sure that every episode has atleast one thing in it that mocks something in the everyday world. Naturally, Matt Greoning is going to make episodes about things like evolution, and because he is the creator, he gets to decide what gets put into the episode, so ultimately, his views are expressed.

Also, in the episode with the gas leak, it made for a good plot twist. While it can be argued that he was using it to mock miracles (because he clearly was), it was in true Simpson style to downplay something that seemed 'miraculous.' The show is, as previously stated, a satire.

I know the The Simpsons also shows alot of chrisitan beliefs as well, but overall, its shown as a joke. (how many times have you seen someone doing something really stupid in church)

"Futurama" now appears on Adult swim, however "The Simpsons" remains on FOX as a PG cartoon.

That's because Futurama was cancelled and The Simpsons is still one of the most viewed primetime television shows on the Fox Media Network. Adult Swim bought up Futurama and Family Guy because they were both still popular with viewers in America, which gave them more viewers for their time slots. Family Guy, on the other hand, was revived due to popular demand from fans and is now back on the Fox Network.

Many young religious kids watch the show today, not realizing about the underlying messages.

How can you even make this statement? Did you talk to 51% of the Simpsons' viewers to see if they were religious kids who don't realize what they are watching?

Most parents don't even know about these messages, and therefore considering it ok to watch this cartoon. when young kids don't know how to think for themselves, they will be influenced by these ideas, without even realizing it.

This is about as effective as saying Grand Theft Auto makes kids want to go shoot hookers and rob banks.

Matt Groening is a smart guy, but he doesn't need to put agonistic views into his show for it to be funny, yet he does it anyway.

THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S A SATIRE!!!!! O TEH NOESSS!!!!11!!11

[TehChahlesh]

George Bush may be a Republican, but that doesn't mean he should be acting based on his political opinions.

[Imperator]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills! I can't believe you're tryin to badmouth the SIMPSONS!

As a Roman Catholic, I hearby approve of any comical uses of my or other Christian faiths is said cartoon. And yes, I am the authority of all Catholicism, so suck it.

Seriously though, creationsists are cracked out to begin with, they don't need Matt Groening to be mocked.....

But good finds, I'm wondering how many hours of watching and re-watching you had to do to come up with those conclusions. Cause I'm 20, grew up with the Simpsons, watching it for nearly 15 years, and have never noticed that.........

Of course, maybe you're just an idiot, and that's why I never noticed........

[SolInvictus]

At 1/31/07 12:28 PM, shohaib wrote: Matt Groening (creator of "The Simpsons" and "Futurama") puts way too much agnostic views in his shows. His cartoons are not safe for young kids in particular to watch.

unfortunatley these aren't agnostic views, they are simply non-creationist views.

p.s. Lisa is a Buddhist and Marge is a devout Christian.

[Dealy-rizazamatizazz]

It's Fox, they're diabolical.

[MortifiedPenguins]

It's a motherfucking cartoon.

I grew up with it.

When we start to ignore the problems in todays societies and go after cartoons, something is wrong.

[Sigma-Lambda]

At 1/31/07 12:28 PM, shohaib wrote: Matt Groening is a smart guy, but he doesn't need to put agonistic views into his show for it to be funny, yet he does it anyway.

He can put whatever he damn well wants into his own show. Don't whine.

[fli]

At 1/31/07 12:44 PM, qygibo wrote: Please. Matt Groening and co have been mocking Christianity for YEARS, going back to the first few seasons. Why the flying fuck is him mocking Christianity now such a huge surprise to you? Shut the hell up and stop watching The Simpsons if it's going to selectively harm your mind like that.

What are you talking about?!!

Simpsons could be supremly Christian themed, especially in the earlier seasons. Sure it pokes fun of everyone, but it's certainly not anti-Christian themed though they do explore such things.

Fact is the Simpsons is one of the cleverist shows in TV history because it's actually intelligent and, most important, entertaining.

In any case,
I just don't know why people don't know how to switch to another chanel. I don't watch 700 Club because it's obscene and offensive. I don't watch Bush speeches when its on. I just do something else in the meanwhile until its gone.

[SmilezRoyale]

Nothing is sacred in the simpsons, they make fun of everyone whenever they have the chance. They've made fun of hillary and bill clinton, indians.

Though i'm unsure if they've made fun of atheists dirrectly.

[SyntheticTacos]

It's his cartoon, and it's Fox's own channel. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Anyways, what's wrong with the show being agnostic? That way it doesn't lean towards any religion, so we don't have to deal with preaching from any belief. It's a show poking fun of everything, so naturally it should include what a lot of the world believes in. And when was the last thing I saw something in church? I used to be Christian- so I know... a lot.

"YOU'RE GOING TO HELL IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN WHAT I SAY!!! >:("

"PREMARITAL SEX IS EVIL!!!! >:("

Luckily I was Episcopalian so i didn't hear too extremist stuff, but I imagine in other churches you get the "GOD HAETS TEH GAYS LOL" and "EOVLUTION IS A LEI" stuff.

[Truth]

At 1/31/07 03:38 PM, random8982 wrote:

Also, in the episode with the gas leak, it made for a good plot twist. While it can be argued that he was using it to mock miracles (because he clearly was), it was in true Simpson style to downplay something that seemed 'miraculous.' The show is, as previously stated, a satire.

yes,but this concept continues troughout the show

Many young religious kids watch the show today, not realizing about the underlying messages.

How can you even make this statement? Did you talk to 51% of the Simpsons' viewers to see if they were religious kids who don't realize what they are watching?

i know for a fact that many Americans are religious (i know certain religious people myself who watch the show). i never said the majority of them do, so 51% has nothing to do with what im talking about.

This is about as effective as saying Grand Theft Auto makes kids want to go shoot hookers and rob banks.

No it isnt! how can you make that similarity, thats not even close.

[Truth]

At 1/31/07 06:42 PM, fli wrote:

I just don't know why people don't know how to switch to another chanel. I don't watch 700 Club because it's obscene and offensive. I don't watch Bush speeches when its on. I just do something else in the meanwhile until its gone.

thats not the point, you can control what you watch, but you cant control what your kids watch.

anyways
"The Simpsons" and Futurama is on everyday. "The Simpsons" is on right now, go watch an episode and see what i mean.

[SkunkyFluffy]

I didn't realize anybody still watched that show.

[AapoJoki]

Dude, when are you going to get it that not teaching kids religion is NOT brainwashing or dangerous, but teaching them religion IS.

[SouthAsian]

i just want to enjoy shows thats all.

[stafffighter]

At 1/31/07 12:28 PM, shohaib wrote: Note: (I posted something like this before in the far past)

Matt Groening (creator of "The Simpsons" and "Futurama") puts way too much agnostic views in his shows. His cartoons are not safe for young kids in particular to watch.

these examples were all in the same episode.

Yes and lots of people who consider themselves christians admit evolution happened. This is about that particular beleif, not the whole faith

Numerous other times, Matt groening will put many ideas in his cartoons disproving god (Mostly in Futurama). If you are old enough, you will also notice how he shows many times that "miracles" are nothing but coincidence (the episode when the Flanders create the christian park, everyone believed they were having miracles, when really it was only a gas leak).

What about when God put out the fire on neds house after homer proclaimed him "joe church"?

Or when God sent a lightning bolt to save todd flanders from the rapids

Or the several times Homer has met God?

Matt Groening is a smart guy, but he doesn't need to put agonistic views into his show for it to be funny, yet he does it anyway.

He puts a lot of politics in there too. It's funny because it's relatable to human expereince

[Boltrig]

Well you do have to admit creationism is a bit, yknow, wrong. Evolution has been proved. The way I see it, even if there is a god, then it probably started things off and let it be.

[Truth]

At 1/31/07 07:17 PM, stafffighter wrote: What about when God put out the fire on neds house after homer proclaimed him "joe church"?
Is that the episode where Lisa shows how it was all a coincidence
Or when God sent a lightning bolt to save todd flanders from the rapids

:dont remember this one

Or the several times Homer has met God?

Homer also meets many fictional characters

[fli]

At 1/31/07 07:05 PM, shohaib wrote: thats not the point, you can control what you watch, but you cant control what your kids watch.

Errr--
So the kids have a gun to your head and say, "Mama, it's either Simpsons, or your life... bitch."

You know, there's a VARIETY of tools to prevent kids from watching TV programs... it's a matter of exploring your options. Even if its something so trivial as finding the Simpson's offensive because they're "anti-Christians."

Heck, it's probably better that you watch TV with your kids and put everything in context because, sure... kids love adult movies. I did too. However, when I watch Bloodsport... I saw it with my dad, and after he saw me and my sister having ideas such as doing karate on each other, who know what he said in Spanish? "I'll kick your asses if you copy them and no TV forever..."

It worked.

But then again, nobody really needs a TV...
Explore these options.

Because why should we suffer crappy television if parents are too lazy to monitor their kids content?

anyways
"The Simpsons" and Futurama is on everyday. "The Simpsons" is on right now, go watch an episode and see what i mean.