Undercover Look into UK mosques

[Misanthropesmaster]

A look inside mosques in the United Kingdom of Britain.
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This bastards should be kicked out Asap for conspiring to commit treason and Islam should be Banned.

[SolInvictus]

shut up kuffaar.

[TheBlueBullet]

At 1/20/07 01:13 AM, Misanthropesmaster wrote: This bastards should be kicked out Asap for conspiring to commit treason and Islam should be Banned.

I saw this acouple days ago. It was very enlightening. I am a firm believer that Islam is not a religion of peace. It only looks peaceful on the outside. Whether or not they are extremists, they are Muslims none-the-less. I don't think necessarily it should be banned but it should be dealt with immediantly in a way that sees fit. They should be made examples of. Im glad the reporters of the Uk had enough balls to do this.

You certainly would not find a story like this in the U.S. They are too afraid. Remember we have to be "Multicultural." It doesn't matter if they want to kills us.
Americans should be ready for an attack. To them we are kuffar. We are the enemy, the infidel.

We have to wonder sometimes why the Muslims are even here in the first place. If they won't follow our laws and refuse to melt into society then why did they come here? They try to change laws. Having womens face clothes during a Drivers License picture, making a deal about women going to doctors, evidentally they do not value women much and yet they make their lives in a country where both men and women are equal. Surely they can not expect us to follow their Quran. Thats where separation of church and state comes in.

If people bitch and moan about Christianity, then equal share should be towards Islam as well. Instead of topics discussing Islam, they discuss Christianity and God. Why? What is so bad about Christianity? Atleast in Christianity you don't kill people who become a different denomination, You don't beat your wives, you don't hang homosexuals, and you certainly don't blow up other people. But no, excuse me. Islam is the religion of peace and Christianity is the religion of hate.

[packow]

But how can you apply freedom of religion to a religion that openly advocates murder?

As much as I REALLY don't want to write off muslims (I know many Muslims and I don't think they're going to kill me), I have to say that every day I become more and more convinced that there really isn't much of a difference between the radicals and moderates. For the entirety of their existence as a religion, they have been involved in constant holy war. Even Christianity, for its first few hundred years (even 1000, until the crusades?) was primarily a true religion of Peace. Islam, however, has been violently fighting holy war since it began.

Meanwhile, Jews have never killed in the name of religion...

[Dash-Underscore-Dash]

At 1/20/07 02:34 AM, packow wrote: Meanwhile, Jews have never killed in the name of religion...

They just sued.

[Drah]

At 1/20/07 01:13 AM, Misanthropesmaster wrote: A look inside mosques in the United Kingdom of Britain.
part1

part2

part 3

This bastards should be kicked out Asap for conspiring to commit treason and Islam should be Banned.

I can agree with the fact that they should be "kicked out", but I can't see how you can judge a religion of almost 1.000 million people by the actions of a few hundred thousand.
That's like if i judged your entire country to be full of stereotyping fools based on your post!

Not to mention, it's not possible to entirely ban a religion without breaking human rights...
The romans tried, and failed, and i doubt you can since you wouldn't be allowed to even change the law.

[AttAl07]

I do not agree with any of that. I have never heard any of that in my mosque. I also went to the Islamic convention in Chicago a few months ago. They specifically said that the women should wear the hijab so that the men do not become distracted by by the women's looks.
Also somebody said that you cannot judge what a minority of people do. Remember that the news only show many many bad things but very few good things. If the news went through and counted the number of mosques that actually say that, they will find that what they see is only a minority.

[Memorize]

At 1/20/07 01:39 AM, TheBlueBullet wrote:

You certainly would not find a story like this in the U.S. They are too afraid. Remember we have to be "Multicultural." It doesn't matter if they want to kills us.

If you found a story like this in the US, the people who took the story would be slammed by our media for being intolerant.

I wonder who the ACLU would root for...

[LadyGrace]

At 1/20/07 02:35 PM, AttAl07 wrote: They specifically said that the women should wear the hijab so that the men do not become distracted by by the women's looks.

Well then, here's my question. Why should a woman cover up if the men cannot contain their lust> It seems the women are being punished for the men's weakness. If the men become distracted by the woman's looks, too bad for him. If he's too weak to control himself, then he deserves to be treated like an imbecile. Why exalt a man for his weakness?

[Leeloo-Minai]

At 1/20/07 03:51 PM, LadyGrace wrote: Why exalt a man for his weakness?

Kuffar!

Poisoning the minds of young Islam men with your female deviousness!

[stone throw]

[Demosthenez]

Very interesting. Much glad we havent recieved the influx of super crazy Islamics like the UK has got here in America.

The part I thought was the best was when they were all "rejecting" democracy and Western laws. If they despise our systems so much, why do they continue to live there and preach against them?

[Sigma-Lambda]

At 1/20/07 01:13 AM, Misanthropesmaster wrote: This bastards should be kicked out Asap for conspiring to commit treason and Islam should be Banned.

You actually believe that crap? That has about as much validity in it as the Elder Protocols of Zion.

[seventy-one]

At 1/20/07 01:13 AM, Misanthropesmaster wrote: Islam should be Banned.

What does this have to do with Islam? They're not Muslim to the majority of Muslims around the world. You know, instead of fighting this ideology with hatred and bigotry, it would be more efficient to fight it by showing Muslims in Britain that that's not what Islam is.

But it always seems people prefer to fight hatred with more hatred.

[Demosthenez]

At 1/20/07 07:13 PM, seventy-one wrote: You know, instead of fighting this ideology with hatred and bigotry, it would be more efficient to fight it by showing Muslims in Britain that that's not what Islam is.

I really dont think these Muslims would listen for to long to kuffar telling them what true Islam is like. As a matter of fact, I dont even think they would listen to moderate Muslims.

Its cases like these that make me wonder about freedom of speech. These people are living in systems they are actively trying to subvert with their words. They are basically partaking in revolutionary dialogue, but very subtly. Is their speech covered or should it even be covered?

[AttAl07]

I meant that the women do not have to wear it. Our religion does not force them to wear it. Wearing the hijab is the choice for women.

[Leeloo-Minai]

At 1/20/07 08:15 PM, Demosthenez wrote: They are basically partaking in revolutionary dialogue, but very subtly. Is their speech covered or should it even be covered?

I heard they were abusing 12 yr old girls, ala Muhammed.

Send in the ATF.

[SolInvictus]

At 1/20/07 09:10 PM, chocolate-penguin wrote: it's pretty much the only religion spread by blowing people up.

ha! fool.

[Kasualty]

Why can't all muslims just die already?

[seventy-one]

At 1/20/07 08:15 PM, Demosthenez wrote:

At 1/20/07 07:13 PM, seventy-one wrote: You know, instead of fighting this ideology with hatred and bigotry, it would be more efficient to fight it by showing Muslims in Britain that that's not what Islam is.

I really dont think these Muslims would listen for to long to kuffar telling them what true Islam is like. As a matter of fact, I dont even think they would listen to moderate Muslims.

But we're not talking about these "Muslims". They have no power. They're only power is to convert real Muslims (notice how I don't call them moderates) to their ideology. Our focus as a society should be to educate the impressionable youngin's as opposed to making them feel more hatred.

At 1/20/07 09:10 PM, chocolate-penguin wrote: Anyone who believes Islam is a "Religion of Peace" needs to first consider the fact it's pretty much the only religion spread by blowing people up.

How is it spread by blowing people up? How many people have converted to Islam because of terrorist attacks?

Then read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Muhammad-In tolerant-Religion/dp/1596980281/sr=8-2/qid=11 69345129/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/002-7871348-2139213?
ie=UTF8&s=books

You know, it seems recently that you've posted in every Islam topic on the NGBBS, but not once have I seen you make an original thought. I don't even know why I bother to argue with you...no, I'm not arguing with you, since, again, you haven't said one original thought...I'm really arguing with link to a book, that I have to pay to read. Maybe if you could even summarize Spencers' arguments, you would have a decent post. But you couldn't even do that.

So I guess I'll play your game, and everytime you post that, I'll post:
The Truth About "The Truth About Muhammad"

[seventy-one]

At 1/21/07 02:20 AM, seventy-one wrote: You know, it seems recently that you've posted in every Islam topic on the NGBBS, but not once have I seen you make an original thought.

No, I take that back, I have seen you make an original post about Islam, though I believe it was in a topic which you made.

Nonetheless, it would still be much better if you provided your own analysis to other Islam-related topics, instead of just posting links.

[Tony-DarkGrave]

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[Camarohusky]

Haha. You people are all fools. Anyone who thinks that Islam is a violent reliogion can just leave now. You have ruined your credibility. You not only ruin yours, but you ruin that of this forum, this site, this country and our species. You are the people that make Americans look like violent ignorant fools. I thank for making the rest of the world hate us.

[TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID]

At 1/21/07 07:41 AM, Camarohusky wrote: Haha. You people are all fools. Anyone who thinks that Islam is a violent reliogion can just leave now. You have ruined your credibility. You not only ruin yours, but you ruin that of this forum, this site, this country and our species. You are the people that make Americans look like violent ignorant fools. I thank for making the rest of the world hate us.

The Quran contains parts that approve violence, against Kuffar. And there are hardly any parts that contradict this. The Bible however, does say it is bad to kill, eventhough some lines say you can stone cheating spouse to death.

And why whould it make this forum look like a fool? It isn't such an illogical conclusion, when you take a look at recent developments.
Also, i've read the Quran, and it is a sick twisted symptom of a disease, it is full of prejudice against Jews, Christian priests and other minorities.

[Togukawa]

At 1/21/07 08:19 AM, TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID wrote:

At 1/21/07 07:41 AM, Camarohusky wrote: Haha. You people are all fools. Anyone who thinks that Islam is a violent reliogion can just leave now. You have ruined your credibility. You not only ruin yours, but you ruin that of this forum, this site, this country and our species. You are the people that make Americans look like violent ignorant fools. I thank for making the rest of the world hate us.

The Quran contains parts that approve violence, against Kuffar. And there are hardly any parts that contradict this. The Bible however, does say it is bad to kill, eventhough some lines say you can stone cheating spouse to death.

Oh please. The Bible too contains approvals of violence, the entire old testament is full of it. God kills first born sons just to piss off the pharaoh, anyone that commits adultry must be put to death (Lev. 20). Romans 1 (New Testament) even says that people that worship something other than God are worthy of death.

Calling the Islam the religion of violence while holding christianity as the religion of peace and love is both ignorant and hypocritical.

And why whould it make this forum look like a fool? It isn't such an illogical conclusion, when you take a look at recent developments.

No, making conclusions about the entirity of Islam based on the conduct of extremist fundamentalists is not illogical at all.

Also, i've read the Quran, and it is a sick twisted symptom of a disease, it is full of prejudice against Jews, Christian priests and other minorities.

Do I have to remind you that while we peaceful christians found it necessary to start crusades, the Islam was one of the most tolerant religions?
Besides, the basis of christianity is "the jews killed the messiah", no prejudice against jews there, at all. A twisted symptom of a disease you said?

[TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID]

Yes but Jesus disaproves it. And Jesus' word is of more value then that of Paul. Remember, Romans is written by Paul, and Leviticus is written by Mozes. The Gospel contains quotes of Jesus.

The bible isn't one book, it's a collection of books. So one can reject one book and use the other. The Quran however is written at the same time, after Mohammeds death.

[Togukawa]

At 1/21/07 08:57 AM, TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID wrote: Yes but Jesus disaproves it. And Jesus' word is of more value then that of Paul. Remember, Romans is written by Paul, and Leviticus is written by Mozes. The Gospel contains quotes of Jesus.

The bible isn't one book, it's a collection of books. So one can reject one book and use the other. The Quran however is written at the same time, after Mohammeds death.

Yes, when arguing, we'll only use the books that support our position. Marvellous idea. Wait, let's use sentences at a time. The Bible is a collection of sentences. So we can reject one sentence, and use another! EVEN BETTER!

The Bible still is the Holy Infallible Word Of God, and that it says that killing is ok in certain cases, like worshipping someone other than God.

All these distinctions between who wrote or said what are meaningless. It's not like christianity has openly rejected certain books because they're outdated/worthless because of Jesus' later word. The Bible is still kept as a whole, and hence should be treated as such.

I don't want to defend the Islam, since it's not a religion I agree with, but calling one the twisted diseased religion of violence and the other the religion of peace, that's just hypocritical and ignorant.

[SirLebowski]

At 1/20/07 01:39 AM, TheBlueBullet wrote: You certainly would not find a story like this in the U.S. They are too afraid. Remember we have to be "Multicultural." It doesn't matter if they want to kills us.
Americans should be ready for an attack.

Please, if America was dealing with the same problem and the UK wasn't you'd all be bitching saying we shouldn't discriminate. But because it's actually happening to you, "measures must be taken".

Well, at least you are all bitching about your OWN problems for once, and not sticking your noses in our affairs.

[seventy-one]

At 1/21/07 08:19 AM, TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID wrote:
The Quran contains parts that approve violence, against Kuffar. And there are hardly any parts that contradict this.

Quran 5:32 and 17:33 pop into mind. And, its not contradiction, because all the advocation of violence stems only from instances of self-defense (e.g. Attack those who attack you).

The Bible however, does say it is bad to kill, eventhough some lines say you can stone cheating spouse to death.

There are many quotes in the Bible that advocate violence. If you have a firm agenda, you could provide quotes from any text to support you.

Also, i've read the Quran, and it is a sick twisted symptom of a disease, it is full of prejudice against Jews, Christian priests and other minorities.

You could say anything, but unless you have facts (such as quotes) to back it up...

[TightRope]

HAHA! us evil racists warned you, us docile, calm, well spoken but none the less EVIL racists told you and you just bitched at us. YEAH! kick these fucking scum out of our nations, and kick out the Jews who let them in, then get rid of the blacks and the indian hispanics. make our nations white again, please for the sake of the future of western society and progress.

[TightRope]

At 1/21/07 02:29 PM, claim2fame wrote: Amen, my white Aryan brother.

Amen back, arm yourself, but do it legally and get ready because the melting pot massacre known as America is going to become one huge black on white rape fest, well it already has, and the media is going to, well they are now, depict it as A SUCCESS!